I'm about to get my first four star, what are the best and worst?

I know starlord is good, and I know gwenpool is bad, but other than that what else should I look forward to?

My luck with three stars is really good, but class variety is really bad, I have one might class, 5 mystics with three of them duped, 5 cosmics with two of them duped (no awakening gems used) so I think I'd prefer a science or mutant class, or starlord for tech

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Huluhula

Gwenpool is amazing Spider Gwen is bad

Raindo

Huluhula wrote: »

Gwenpool is amazing Spider Gwen is bad

That's the one I don't know why I said gwenpool haha

Hawke

This may be helpful for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i14qeIcxhS8

EliOrSomething

you'll also be in good shape if you get a dr voodoo

DrZola

Honestly, I wouldn’t get too worked up about your first 4* because you are likely to use it regardless of who it is. Beyond a couple of champs that really have very low utility, a 4* can be a game changer for a beginning player. Good luck.

Dr. Zola

Reina

Honestly Spider-Gwen is a decent champion

MadMarks

people hate on spider gwen, but she does hit like a hammer. only real thing bad is her evade is terrible and her l1 is useless. she is long over due for a buff.

Nexus_UY_Scuti

As a beginner you don't really wanna get Star Lord as your first 4-star. Mainly because he needs to be duped to be good, which means you need to get him twice, or awaken him with a 4-star awakening gem (very rare for beginners).

Champs like Gwenpool, Archangel, or Iceman are much better for beginners.

NormanBJJ

MadMarks wrote: »

people hate on spider gwen, but she does hit like a hammer. only real thing bad is her evade is terrible and her l1 is useless. she is long over due for a buff.

She hits like a hammer??? You mean a toy hammer right?

Nexus_UY_Scuti

NormanBJJ wrote: »

MadMarks wrote: »

people hate on spider gwen, but she does hit like a hammer. only real thing bad is her evade is terrible and her l1 is useless. she is long over due for a buff.

She hits like a hammer??? You mean a toy hammer right?

Those that make squeky noises when they hit something.

Honestly, Gwenpool's fluffy collector doll probably does more damage than Spoder Gwen.

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Reina

The best characters I’d say are (God tier):
Star Lord
Gwenpool
Hyperion
IceMan
Scarlet Witch
Wolverine
Doctor Vodoo
Captain America WW2

Demi God
Spider-Man (Classic)
Nightcrawler
Quake
Mordo
Rogue
Magik
Thor
Hulk
Wolverine X-23
Storm
Archangel
Symbiote Spider-Man
Deadpool (Red Suit)
Black Bolt

Good
Miles Morales
Venom
Thor (Jane Foster)
Howard
Electro
Ultranationalist
Captain America
King Groot
Rocket Racoon
Punisher
Black Panther
Dr. Strange
Phoenix
Captain Marvel
Ms. Marvel
Gambit
Iron Fist
Hood
Daredevil
Falcon
Venompool
Magneto
Spider-Gwen

Meh
Kamala Khan
Joe Fix it
Rhino
Ant-Man
Carnage
Groot
Hulkbuster
War Machine
Black Panther (Civil War)

God Awful
Winter Soldier
Abomination
Iron Patriot
Luke Cage
Old Man Logan
Colossus

Reina

Note: Stark Enhanced Spider-Man is a god tier but is not available in the 4shc

Reina

Also I forgot to put them in but Deadpool (X-Force) and Moon Night are good

Reina

@tufan_1974 yea I got a 3 star one out of the Egomaniac Crystal and she is not only a good damage dealer, but a ton of fun to play with

Reina

Ghost Rider is also great

Armaganon00

It being your first, they all will be good for clearing content. Level it up to rank 3 and goodluck

Armaganon00

Romyjart wrote: »

The best characters I’d say are (God tier):
Star Lord
Gwenpool
Hyperion
IceMan
Scarlet Witch
Wolverine
Doctor Vodoo
Captain America WW2

Demi God
Spider-Man (Classic)
Nightcrawler
Quake
Mordo
Rogue
Magik
Thor
Hulk
Wolverine X-23
Storm
Archangel
Symbiote Spider-Man
Deadpool (Red Suit)
Black Bolt

Good
Miles Morales
Venom
Thor (Jane Foster)
Howard
Electro
Ultranationalist
Captain America
King Groot
Rocket Racoon
Punisher
Black Panther
Dr. Strange
Phoenix
Captain Marvel
Ms. Marvel
Gambit
Iron Fist
Hood
Daredevil
Falcon
Venompool
Magneto
Spider-Gwen

Meh
Kamala Khan
Joe Fix it
Rhino
Ant-Man
Carnage
Groot
Hulkbuster
War Machine
Black Panther (Civil War)

God Awful
Winter Soldier
Abomination
Iron Patriot
Luke Cage
Old Man Logan
Colossus

Good list but most of these need to be duped to be in the tiers above. With over a 100 champs in the pool, dupping them will be unlikely.
Undupped greats are Ultron, x23, hawkeye, gwenpool, hood, dormumu, gullitione

Magrailothos

Good luck with your pull - presumably you're working on shards?

I'd listen to m'learned friend @DrZola and just make the most of whoever you get.

Some of the guys here forget that their fave characters need awakening to be 'gods' (Starlord, Spiderman, Scarlet Witch, Storm etc); whilst some that get a lot of negativity are actually very useful.

If my first four star had been Winter Soldier, or even Groot, I'd have been more than happy. Whoever it is, read through their abilities, think about how to get the best of them. Do look at their synergies, and think about building around them, since you'll presumably be using them a lot.

Trust me, even if it's Joe Fixit or Iron Patriot, don't let other people's opinions spoil your new champion for you. Go looking on the forums, and you'll find other people singing the praises of almost any champion (Like they have above, with Spidergwen).

Enjoy the game.

danielmath

The best champ as your 1st one probably would be ultron, immune and regen. Ghostrider would probably be too complicated, same with voodoo.

DrZola

@Raindo So...who did you get?

Dr. Zola

MSRDLD

Who is this Ultranationalist and where can I get him?

Romyjart wrote: »

The best characters I’d say are (God tier):

Good
Miles Morales
Venom
Thor (Jane Foster)
Howard
Electro
Ultranationalist
...

Mr_Otter

MSRDLD wrote: »

Who is this Ultranationalist and where can I get him?

Romyjart wrote: »

The best characters I’d say are (God tier):

Good
Miles Morales
Venom
Thor (Jane Foster)
Howard
Electro
Ultranationalist
...

Ultron… it happens a lot

Dexman1349

Hawke wrote: »

This may be helpful for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i14qeIcxhS8

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1beR2CAlBQ2XBA3M1jJ1aPEfwE46eQt6LU-lzA0babxQ/edit#gid=0
Here's his spreadsheet.

I don't 100% agree with his rankings, but it's a good start. The biggest thing to remember is that, like Dr Zola said, you will use whatever 4* you pull. And because that will be your first, you will probably learn that one better than any other champ for a while because you do use it so much.

A lot of the champs that are ranked highly also require a fair amount of skill and nuanced style to utilize properly. Star Lord is a prime example because he needs an un-interrupted hit streak to do his true damage. If you can't do more than 10 hits, then SL is barely a "Good Tier" champ.

DNA3000

As always, whenever someone asks which champion is better and which is worse, I think the important question to ask is "better or worse at what?" Some champions have more utility in more situations but there's no such thing as a champion that is best at everything.

When you are first starting out in the game the natural tendency is to wonder who is better and who is worse. But as you play the game you will learn that the game presents different challenges in different ways and different champions have different strengths and weaknesses. For example, when you are questing there are many map that have very long paths. Each fight might not be especially hard, but you can still run out of health on those paths while technically winning almost every fight. When you've won nine fights in a row and then look at your team and all your champs have just a sliver of health left, you will have to start burning potions to finish that path. Champions that can recover health through some kind of healing become valuable in those situations. Wolverine, Dr. Voodoo, even Ultron can be extremely useful. But you will also face individual opponents that are very hard to kill, and in those single fights abilities like power control can become very valuable: if the champion cannot use special attacks and especially cannot build to special three attacks in a long fight a very dangerous enemy can become a very manageable one. A champion like Vision has relatively low damage but can kill a boss that relies on special attacks to be dangerous while taking practically no damage back.

When you are fighting in an alliance quest or a regular event quest you can figure out what you are going to fight: the enemies are usually not hidden and even if they are they are the same every time you run the map. You can do heroic to scout for master mode. But you won't know what you are going to face in alliance war. Some champions are more versatile when facing a random unknown champion. On the other hand, if you know you are going to be running the immunity path or bleed path on Map 5 certain champs are better than others on attack.

Especially when you are first starting out, the best question to ask is not what the best champion is, but rather what's the best champion you have to run a specific path on a specific map.

HeroBoltsy

Huluhula wrote: »

Gwenpool is amazing Spider Gwen is bad

Spider Gwen is not bad! She is MISUNDERSTOOD. Sp2 can do massive damage. But Gwenpool's better anyway.

DrZola

Is there a reason why all of these posts are flagged as spam? Has someone deputized himself or herself to hit threads and flag every post in them wholesale? More to the point, hasn't the anonymous flagging feature run its course? Seems like a shoddy way to allow someone who either doesn't have a point to make or isn't able to make it convincingly to tar community members who are actually trying to participate in the forums in a helpful and civil way.

Dr. Zola

DNA3000

DrZola wrote: »

Is there a reason why all of these posts are flagged as spam? Has someone deputized himself or herself to hit threads and flag every post in them wholesale? More to the point, hasn't the anonymous flagging feature run its course? Seems like a shoddy way to allow someone who either doesn't have a point to make or isn't able to make it convincingly to tar community members who are actually trying to participate in the forums in a helpful and civil way.

Dr. Zola

The flag system is just a forum short hand for essentially PMing a moderator to report a post for moderation. Occasionally someone just seems to start flagging everything, or everything a particular poster posts, or every post in a particular thread. There's no logical rhyme or reasons to it except I assume someone has some sort of mental issue. Abusing the flagging system is itself considered forum abuse and posters can be temporarily or permanently banned for repeated abuse of the system.

Sometimes the flagging is random or weird, but it is possible that the person who decided to flag all the posts in this thread is one of those sad souls that believes discussing strong champions encourages Kabam to nerf them, like the people who think talking about cancer causes you to get cancer. They can't present a logical reason for believing that, so they flag everything hoping that will discourage people from discussing the topic.

I have 76 drive-by flags at this point. It does not appear to be having the desired post-dampening effect in my case. I cannot imagine it having that effect on anyone else that has something to say. That element of futility does make the behavior a little sad.

Kenshio

its your first , it dosent matter what is it , just learn how to play with him/her

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