I agree with the rankings above, kingpin could’ve been higher if his heavy fury was more viable and didn’t need a synergy champ for 100% reliable conversion.
I saw the notes on YJ and if the numbers are higher then he could be a lot better. But if those are final then he ain’t looking too good. The new stuff is cool but worthless without good numbers
I think KP may be much better than initially thought. Some will depend on whether all debuffs are shrugged, but he seems like a potent addition to an already OP Ghost Trinity team.
Devil’s in the details...need to see him in action. But debuff immunity that fuels attack is a crazy mechanism if it works like it looks like it will.
I saw the notes on YJ and if the numbers are higher then he could be a lot better. But if those are final then he ain’t looking too good. The new stuff is cool but worthless without good numbers
The problem is human torch does what he does better. Add Richards and shehulk or doc ock power sting as well. I am trying to understand when you would ever bring him if you have torch. Slow is nice but there are much better slow options, torch can’t miss is more useful.
I would agree with this.
YJ buff appears to be great for players without other options. But I don’t think it makes him best in class at those things by a long shot.
I mean Kingpin looks fun but am I missing the utility?
Debuff immunity with Hood if it’s like it reads. That’s a fair bit of utility.
Dr. Zola
Debuff immunity. Evade counter. Massive damage.
Sounds like Aegon without the massive ramp up.
I’m cautiously optimistic (awakened 6* owner) but it sounds like a potent combo. Willpower heal seems solid as well, which can negate chip damage.
I’m sure I will see the gameplay and weep when it isn’t so though...
Dr. Zola
Yeah. On paper he sounds solid. I only have him as a 5* unawakened (I've been fortunate or maybe unfortunate to not pull him more than once or as a 6*).
I'll wait and see for more gameplay footage before I even consider taking him up, but if he's suicide friendly like it seems, I wouldn't be opposed to it.
I mean Kingpin looks fun but am I missing the utility?
Debuff immunity with Hood if it’s like it reads. That’s a fair bit of utility.
Dr. Zola
Debuff immunity. Evade counter. Massive damage.
Sounds like Aegon without the massive ramp up.
I’m cautiously optimistic (awakened 6* owner) but it sounds like a potent combo. Willpower heal seems solid as well, which can negate chip damage.
I’m sure I will see the gameplay and weep when it isn’t so though...
Dr. Zola
Yeah. On paper he sounds solid. I only have him as a 5* unawakened (I've been fortunate or maybe unfortunate to not pull him more than once or as a 6*).
I'll wait and see for more gameplay footage before I even consider taking him up, but if he's suicide friendly like it seems, I wouldn't be opposed to it.
What’s nice is seeing Skill class getting some bangers. Falcon, Mole Man, Kingpin. We can perhaps put all the Elsa fanboy posts to rest soon.
Just need to redo Karnak and we are rolling (awakened 6* owner disclaimer).
I think Kingpin is the best. His damage seems nuts and he has phenomenal debuff shrug off, for both damaging and non damaging debuffs, all while regenerating through his personal rage debuffs and becoming unstoppable. I feel like he's DDHK done right. I love the buff. I can see Ghost/Hood/Kingpin becoming a common trio in questing/AQ/AW. Kingpin could even take hazard shift in AW now.
Yellowjacket's utility seems amazing but I'm worried about his damage output.
Terrax is still one of the best character's in the game. YJ might be useful for utility. MoleMan will be the "meh" champion. Not too good, not too bad. Kingpin is the worse. Really not so much changed apart from the whole debuff thing
Terrax is still one of the best character's in the game. YJ might be useful for utility. MoleMan will be the "meh" champion. Not too good, not too bad. Kingpin is the worse. Really not so much changed apart from the whole debuff thing
Kingpin can literally achieve +800% attack, which is 4 times Nick Fury's fury. Kingpin is gonna be amazing. He's definitely not the worst, he's a great champion now.
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I've just been crunching some of Kingpin's numbers and here's what I've found.
A 5/65 with the fury from entering overpower and the fury from landing quick consecutive heavy attacks:
Non crit light: 2600 Crit light: 5100
Non crit medium: 4200 Crit medium: 8100
Non crit heavy: 8900 Crit heavy: 17300
Take these values with a pinch of salt as I have not accounted for any masteries except 5/5 cruelty or any synergies. In acuality they'll be noticeably higher.
I've just been crunching some of Kingpin's numbers and here's what I've found.
A 5/65 with the fury from entering overpower and the fury from landing quick consecutive heavy attacks:
Non crit light: 2600 Crit light: 5100
Non crit medium: 4200 Crit medium: 8100
Non crit heavy: 8900 Crit heavy: 17300
Take these values with a pinch of salt as I have not accounted for any masteries except 5/5 cruelty or any synergies. In acuality they'll be noticeably higher.
Just to add to the theory craft. Add the 60% damage from suicide masteries onto those numbers
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The new stuff is cool but worthless without good numbers
Devil’s in the details...need to see him in action. But debuff immunity that fuels attack is a crazy mechanism if it works like it looks like it will.
Dr. Zola
Dr. Zola
YJ buff appears to be great for players without other options. But I don’t think it makes him best in class at those things by a long shot.
Dr. Zola
Sounds like Aegon without the massive ramp up.
I’m sure I will see the gameplay and weep when it isn’t so though...
Dr. Zola
I'll wait and see for more gameplay footage before I even consider taking him up, but if he's suicide friendly like it seems, I wouldn't be opposed to it.
Just need to redo Karnak and we are rolling (awakened 6* owner disclaimer).
Dr. Zola
Yellowjacket's utility seems amazing but I'm worried about his damage output.
YJ might be useful for utility.
MoleMan will be the "meh" champion. Not too good, not too bad.
Kingpin is the worse. Really not so much changed apart from the whole debuff thing
A 5/65 with the fury from entering overpower and the fury from landing quick consecutive heavy attacks:
Non crit light: 2600
Crit light: 5100
Non crit medium: 4200
Crit medium: 8100
Non crit heavy: 8900
Crit heavy: 17300
Take these values with a pinch of salt as I have not accounted for any masteries except 5/5 cruelty or any synergies. In acuality they'll be noticeably higher.
Non crit light: 4160
Crit light: 8160
Non crit medium: 6720
Crit medium: 12960
Non crit heavy: 14240
Crit heavy: 27680
Of course that's all theoretical.
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