Chart: MCOC Top 50 Champions Rank Totals By Class (6-Star only)

zaspacerzaspacer Member Posts: 116 ★
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Here is a Chart for the Top 50 Champions Rank Totals By Class (6-Star only).

It focuses on how many Champions of each Class are in the Top 50 Champions, as well as at what specific Ranks each Class shows up. The x-axis is the progressive tally for each Rank spot from 0 to 50 (0 is blank). The y-axis is Total number of Champions for each Class.

This data was pulled from Kingslayer MCOC's August 8th youtube video "MCOC All 200 Champions Ranked! | Best Characters In MCOC | Marvel Contest Of Champions". This is just his ranking which could be different than yours. This ranking also does not include this month's buff for Venom Pool and King Groot.

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  • zaspacerzaspacer Member Posts: 116 ★
    edited August 2021
    Here is the same chart, but adding the name of the Champion at each Rank.

    These are only the first 50 6-Star Champions from Kingslayer MCOC's video. His video lists the Top 200 Champions, and also includes 5-Stars.

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  • zaspacerzaspacer Member Posts: 116 ★
    aNOOBis235 said:

    Im confused as to why you didn't use a column graph as it seems more appropriate but nice job congrats.

    I can try out different graph types pretty easily. It's just an Excel chart template.

    So, a bar chart like this?...


  • aNOOBis235aNOOBis235 Member Posts: 147 ★
    edited August 2021
    zaspacer said:

    aNOOBis235 said:

    Im confused as to why you didn't use a column graph as it seems more appropriate but nice job congrats.

    I can try out different graph types pretty easily. It's just an Excel chart template.

    So, a bar chart like this?...


    Yeah that actually looks much better.Sorry science and math brain.
    IMO it would appear better as 6 separate columns(One for each class) of champs in top 50 to compare that way.
  • zaspacerzaspacer Member Posts: 116 ★
    aNOOBis235 said:


    Yeah that actually looks much better.Sorry science and math brain.
    IMO it would appear better as 6 separate columns(One for each class) of champs in top 50 to compare that way.

    Cool. Happy to try out the different looks. Or I can post the data and people can try out different formatting. Appreciate all insight and all academic or other backgrounds and mindsets.

    So, 6 separate columns like this?



    Here is the data (tab delimited):

    Tech Skill Science Mystic Cosmic Mutant
    0
    Ghost 1 1
    Doctor Doom 2 1 1
    Nick Fury 3 1 1 1
    Magneto (Red) 4 1 1 1 1
    Corvus Glaive 5 1 1 1 1 1
    Colossus (Classic) 6 1 1 1 1 2
    Human Torch 7 1 1 1 1 1 2
    Warlock 8 2 1 1 1 1 2
    Cosmic Ghost Rider 9 2 1 1 1 2 2
    Shang-Chi 10 2 2 1 1 2 2
    Archangel 11 2 2 1 1 2 3
    Black Widow (Claire Voyant) 12 2 2 1 2 2 3
    Hercules 13 2 2 1 2 3 3
    Omega Red 14 2 2 1 2 3 4
    Captain America (Infinity War) 15 2 2 2 2 3 4
    Aegon 16 2 3 2 2 3 4
    Professor X 17 2 3 2 2 3 5
    Apocalypse 18 2 3 2 2 3 6
    Guillotine 2099 19 3 3 2 2 3 6
    Captain Marvel (Movie) 20 3 3 2 2 4 6
    Cable 21 3 3 2 2 4 7
    Void 22 3 3 3 2 4 7
    Falcon 23 3 4 3 2 4 7
    Tigra 24 3 4 3 3 4 7
    Stryfe 25 3 4 3 3 4 8
    Mole Man 26 3 5 3 3 4 8
    Sunspot 27 3 5 3 3 4 9
    Havok 28 3 5 3 3 4 10
    Abomination (Immortal) 29 3 5 4 3 4 10
    Crossbones 30 3 6 4 3 4 10
    She-Hulk 31 3 6 5 3 4 10
    Guardian 32 4 6 5 3 4 10
    Sorcerer Supreme 33 4 6 5 4 4 10
    Kingpin 34 4 7 5 4 4 10
    Hela 35 4 7 5 4 5 10
    Diablo 36 4 7 5 5 5 10
    Domino 37 4 7 5 5 5 11
    Thing 38 4 7 6 5 5 11
    Ultron (Age Of Ultron) 39 5 7 6 5 5 11
    Symbiote Supreme 40 5 7 6 6 5 11
    Angela 41 5 7 6 6 6 11
    Hulkbuster 42 6 7 6 6 6 11
    Spider-Man (Stealth Suit) 43 6 8 6 6 6 11
    Namor 44 6 8 6 6 6 12
    Venom 45 6 8 6 6 7 12
    Spider-Man (Stark Enhanced) 46 7 8 6 6 7 12
    Spider-Ham 47 7 8 7 6 7 12
    Medusa 48 7 8 7 6 8 12
    Magneto (White) 49 7 8 7 6 8 13
    Dragon Man 50 7 8 7 7 8 13
  • aNOOBis235aNOOBis235 Member Posts: 147 ★
    zaspacer said:

    aNOOBis235 said:


    Yeah that actually looks much better.Sorry science and math brain.
    IMO it would appear better as 6 separate columns(One for each class) of champs in top 50 to compare that way.

    Cool. Happy to try out the different looks. Or I can post the data and people can try out different formatting. Appreciate all insight and all academic or other backgrounds and mindsets.

    So, 6 separate columns like this?



    Here is the data (tab delimited):

    Tech Skill Science Mystic Cosmic Mutant
    0
    Ghost 1 1
    Doctor Doom 2 1 1
    Nick Fury 3 1 1 1
    Magneto (Red) 4 1 1 1 1
    Corvus Glaive 5 1 1 1 1 1
    Colossus (Classic) 6 1 1 1 1 2
    Human Torch 7 1 1 1 1 1 2
    Warlock 8 2 1 1 1 1 2
    Cosmic Ghost Rider 9 2 1 1 1 2 2
    Shang-Chi 10 2 2 1 1 2 2
    Archangel 11 2 2 1 1 2 3
    Black Widow (Claire Voyant) 12 2 2 1 2 2 3
    Hercules 13 2 2 1 2 3 3
    Omega Red 14 2 2 1 2 3 4
    Captain America (Infinity War) 15 2 2 2 2 3 4
    Aegon 16 2 3 2 2 3 4
    Professor X 17 2 3 2 2 3 5
    Apocalypse 18 2 3 2 2 3 6
    Guillotine 2099 19 3 3 2 2 3 6
    Captain Marvel (Movie) 20 3 3 2 2 4 6
    Cable 21 3 3 2 2 4 7
    Void 22 3 3 3 2 4 7
    Falcon 23 3 4 3 2 4 7
    Tigra 24 3 4 3 3 4 7
    Stryfe 25 3 4 3 3 4 8
    Mole Man 26 3 5 3 3 4 8
    Sunspot 27 3 5 3 3 4 9
    Havok 28 3 5 3 3 4 10
    Abomination (Immortal) 29 3 5 4 3 4 10
    Crossbones 30 3 6 4 3 4 10
    She-Hulk 31 3 6 5 3 4 10
    Guardian 32 4 6 5 3 4 10
    Sorcerer Supreme 33 4 6 5 4 4 10
    Kingpin 34 4 7 5 4 4 10
    Hela 35 4 7 5 4 5 10
    Diablo 36 4 7 5 5 5 10
    Domino 37 4 7 5 5 5 11
    Thing 38 4 7 6 5 5 11
    Ultron (Age Of Ultron) 39 5 7 6 5 5 11
    Symbiote Supreme 40 5 7 6 6 5 11
    Angela 41 5 7 6 6 6 11
    Hulkbuster 42 6 7 6 6 6 11
    Spider-Man (Stealth Suit) 43 6 8 6 6 6 11
    Namor 44 6 8 6 6 6 12
    Venom 45 6 8 6 6 7 12
    Spider-Man (Stark Enhanced) 46 7 8 6 6 7 12
    Spider-Ham 47 7 8 7 6 7 12
    Medusa 48 7 8 7 6 8 12
    Magneto (White) 49 7 8 7 6 8 13
    Dragon Man 50 7 8 7 7 8 13
    Lol much simpler than that I just meant 6 columns total with amount of top 50 champs in each class which is easier to read.Although your way is certainly more interesting information why.
  • zaspacerzaspacer Member Posts: 116 ★
    Dissapointed said:

    Another tier list...

    I know you're Dissapointed, but I posted the chart to showcase the comparative progressive distribution totals by Class.

    Though I do think Kingslayer MCOC's actual linear ranking is also neat. And adding the actual Champion names on the 2nd chart both (a) provided more details on the comparative progressive distribution data source, and (b) expanded the use of the chart to also cover the linear ranking.
  • zaspacerzaspacer Member Posts: 116 ★
    aNOOBis235 said:


    Lol much simpler than that I just meant 6 columns total with amount of top 50 champs in each class which is easier to read.Although your way is certainly more interesting information why.

    Ah, ok. So a more simple one, like this?



    That's definitely informative, and makes a clear display of how many of each Class are in the Top 50.

    I went with the other ones, because I wanted to convey the actual progression makeup of when in the Ranking each Class appeared.

    But it's all good.
  • aNOOBis235aNOOBis235 Member Posts: 147 ★
    zaspacer said:

    aNOOBis235 said:


    Lol much simpler than that I just meant 6 columns total with amount of top 50 champs in each class which is easier to read.Although your way is certainly more interesting information why.

    Ah, ok. So a more simple one, like this?



    That's definitely informative, and makes a clear display of how many of each Class are in the Top 50.

    I went with the other ones, because I wanted to convey the actual progression makeup of when in the Ranking each Class appeared.

    But it's all good.
    Both are really good and maybe even a line graph on top of the simplified one with the means of each could help enhance it.What you've done is really good tho.
  • MasterpuffMasterpuff Member Posts: 6,469 ★★★★★
    Very cool graph, although I will say i think that tier list sucked.
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,015 ★★★★★
    Hm, it's wrong. You're missing the whole order of Ebony Maw, including himself
  • IKONIKON Member Posts: 1,356 ★★★★★
    Really nice graphs here, and useful information, however I think the context of how many of each class is in the pool is important information if using this chart for decision making, like a t5cc selector or class nexus. IIRC mutant also has the most champions in the pool.
  • Graves_3Graves_3 Member Posts: 1,527 ★★★★★
    So quake is not even in the top 50? Or does she have a graph of her own? In any case, thanks OP.
  • SummonerNRSummonerNR Member, Guardian Posts: 12,764 Guardian
    Nothing wrong with the original chart shown, the requested alternatives are actually harder to compare between class (trying to measure difference in size of yardsticks that are in top of each other (not side to side), or grand total chart which doesn’t tell you their relative breakdown within the top-50.

    So original (with the actual champ names at bottom) is best in my view.

    Nice job.
  • SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Member Posts: 21,943 ★★★★★
    Graves_3 said:

    So quake is not even in the top 50? Or does she have a graph of her own? In any case, thanks OP.

    6-star only. Quake doesn’t make the list. Or Hyperion.

    kingslayers tier list was weird anyway
  • Graves_3Graves_3 Member Posts: 1,527 ★★★★★
    SpideyFunko said:

    Graves_3 said:

    So quake is not even in the top 50? Or does she have a graph of her own? In any case, thanks OP.

    6-star only. Quake doesn’t make the list. Or Hyperion.

    kingslayers tier list was weird anyway
    Totally missed that in the title. Thanks mate!
  • zaspacerzaspacer Member Posts: 116 ★
    Masterpuff said:

    Very cool graph, although I will say i think that tier list sucked.

    SpideyFunko said:


    kingslayers tier list was weird anyway

    I like and appreciate all tier and ranking lists. But I totally believe that the actual value of each Champ will vary based on the valuation criteria: who is in the user pool (skill level, roster, spend, time, goals, etc.), how is different content weighted for valuation, how is future potential weighted, how are current temporary metas factored into weighting, etc.

    If either of you would be up for making even a Top 10 6-Star Champions Ranked Order list (#'d 1-10), I could take that and make some neat charts. By themselves, aggregating all charts, charts that show the variance for each Champ's ranking across lists, etc. It would also be useful to see if the general Progressive Tally and Total pattern for Classes was still roughly the same.

    Or make a Top 50 or Top 25 if you feel up to it. And that goes for anyone else in this thread. If you have an ordered Top 10, 25, or 50 6-Star, just post it here and I will use it to make charts.
  • zaspacerzaspacer Member Posts: 116 ★
    IKON said:

    Really nice graphs here, and useful information, however I think the context of how many of each class is in the pool is important information if using this chart for decision making, like a t5cc selector or class nexus. IIRC mutant also has the most champions in the pool.

    Agreed. Depending on what the graphs are used for, you'd want to know the other key factors that impact the context. And the number in each Class pool is a huge key factor in a number of common considerations: Class Nexus (like you stated), Class Crystal, Dual Class Crystal, etc.

    I could do something like apply a fraction multiplier to each Class Tally, that corresponds to the ratio of 1/(#-in-that-Class-pool/#-in-smallest-Class-pool). I have no idea if that's expressing the pool odds weights properly, any chance a mathlete could weigh in on that?

    So...

    Mystic 23/23 = 1, so 1/1 = 1
    Science 29/23 = 1.26, so 1/1.26 = 0.79
    Tech 26/23 = 1.13, so 1/1.13 = 0.88
    Cosmic 34/23 = 1.48, so 1/1.48 = 0.68
    Mutant 30/23 = 1.30, so 1/ 1.30 = 0.77
    Skill 29/23 = 1.26, so 1/1.26 = 0.79

    Which gives the following interesting comparison between the unmodified chart and the pool ratio modified chart.


  • zaspacerzaspacer Member Posts: 116 ★
    Actually, the "comparison between the unmodified chart and the pool ratio modified chart" above is inaccurate. Because it includes Champs not in the 6-Star Common Pool.

    This would be the proper charts for that:


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