**UPDATE - iPAD STUCK FLICKERING SCREEN**
The 47.0.1 hotfix to address the issue of freezing & flashing lights on loading screens when trying to enter a fight, along with other smaller issues, is now ready to be downloaded through the App Store on IOS.
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How are all finding the game and compensations at the moment

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  • slayer6slayer6 Member Posts: 377 ★★
    @The_Sentry06 I don’t mind I’m a big boy I asked for opinions and that’s what I’m getting all good man
  • slayer6slayer6 Member Posts: 377 ★★
    edited August 2021
    I think I need an android then lol and full battery to i dont have that often @Demonzfyre
  • slayer6slayer6 Member Posts: 377 ★★
    I’m off to bed ya all have fun while I get well needed beauty rest 👍🏼
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 21,863 ★★★★★
    slayer6 said:

    @ BitterSteel do you work for kabam or fix the bugs? If you don’t how do you know what’s true and what’s not? Or just guessing.
    I sure as hell don’t know but your guessing just like everyone else.

    If you knew how the process worked with fixing a bug, you'd never have said "just fix the game". Something that is bugged at the core of the game, like the game engine, isn't easy to fix. It's connected to everything.

    It's possible that's it's really not even a true bug but just how the performance of the game engine works and we're not used to it. On top of being a core process, you have 100's of different devices spec'd out in different ways that you have to program the game to work with. None of this is easy. It's completely unfair for you to say someone should be fired when you don't even have clue in how to do thier job. You don't even understand the basics.
  • Bugmat78Bugmat78 Member Posts: 2,363 ★★★★★
    GOTG said:

    So a week ago it's just me who had enough courage to say that the game was fine and now more people stand up against the gang who blame everything on Kabam even after their own mistakes and hoping for free stuffs. That's right people. That's enough. That's enough parry and dex bs and enough compensation begging.

    How droll. Can you not come up with a new schtick yet?
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    edited August 2021
    slayer6 said:

    @BitterSteel do you work for kabam or fix the bugs? If you don’t how do you know what’s true and what’s not? Or just guessing.
    I sure as hell don’t know but your guessing just like everyone else.

    "Finding a solution for this issue is a complex task, as we have to base a lot of this on “feel” while also trying to verify with Data." MCOC Game Team
    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/274203/gameplay-issues-fix-timeline#latest

    "we believe that a recent update to our game engine is the cause of the problems that players are experiencing"
    "Making those improvements will be a lengthy process where we will be overhauling a large part of the game to work with this engine update." MCOC Game Team
    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/276481/update-gameplay-concerns-affecting-parry-and-dexterity#latest

    "The assumption you've made is that this is somehow an easy thing to identify or fix. Neither of those things is true."
    "In this case, we believe it may have something to do with our Game Engine update, but can't say that for sure yet. That is something that touches literally every aspect of the game, so identifying what that could be is not something that can be done very quickly." Kabam Miike
    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/1851054#Comment_1851054


    I mean, if you call reading what Kabam say and basing an opinion off the facts they give, sure, I'm guessing.

  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    slayer6 said:

    I once heard bill Clinton say he did not have sexual relations with that women to, what people tell you and what actually happens are 3 different things.
    Your truth
    Their truth
    And the real truth.
    I may not be a gamer geek at repairing but months to fix is a long long time to me and obviously a lot of others.

    Oh ok, so you’re just saying Kabam are lying?
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    slayer6 said:

    @BitterSteel I don’t know maybe and maybe not as your not sure either none of us are who don’t work for them.

    Ok but you’re the only one here spreading conspiracy theories that Kabam actually aren’t upgrading their game engine, and that it’s not actually a hard bug to fix.
  • slayer6slayer6 Member Posts: 377 ★★
    I guarantee I ain’t the only one thinking and saying it
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 21,863 ★★★★★
    BitterSteel said:

    slayer6 said:

    @BitterSteel do you work for kabam or fix the bugs? If you don’t how do you know what’s true and what’s not? Or just guessing.
    I sure as hell don’t know but your guessing just like everyone else.

    "Finding a solution for this issue is a complex task, as we have to base a lot of this on “feel” while also trying to verify with Data." MCOC Game Team
    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/274203/gameplay-issues-fix-timeline#latest

    "we believe that a recent update to our game engine is the cause of the problems that players are experiencing"
    "Making those improvements will be a lengthy process where we will be overhauling a large part of the game to work with this engine update." MCOC Game Team
    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/276481/update-gameplay-concerns-affecting-parry-and-dexterity#latest

    "The assumption you've made is that this is somehow an easy thing to identify or fix. Neither of those things is true."
    "In this case, we believe it may have something to do with our Game Engine update, but can't say that for sure yet. That is something that touches literally every aspect of the game, so identifying what that could be is not something that can be done very quickly." Kabam Miike
    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/1851054#Comment_1851054


    I mean, if you call reading what Kabam say and basing an opinion off the facts they give, sure, I'm guessing.

    Research and facts aren't very popular on the forums.
  • slayer6slayer6 Member Posts: 377 ★★
    Well learn something knew each day cheers @Demonzfyre im out need sleep
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    slayer6 said:

    I guarantee I ain’t the only one thinking and saying it

    More people saying or thinking it doesn't make it any less of a conspiracy theory
  • ThecurlerThecurler Member Posts: 876 ★★★★
    I’ve definitely been hit by parry issues. Dex too.
    It’s been completely random when, where and how often it happens.
    The AW/AQ compensation has more than covered issues I have faced in that content.
    Almost no trouble in AW. AQ has been bad at times.
    I had serious trouble against sop grandmaster, dex randomly wasn’t working. Controls in the fight felt really unresponsive. Cost me quite a few revives.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 21,863 ★★★★★
    BitterSteel said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    BitterSteel said:

    slayer6 said:

    @BitterSteel do you work for kabam or fix the bugs? If you don’t how do you know what’s true and what’s not? Or just guessing.
    I sure as hell don’t know but your guessing just like everyone else.

    "Finding a solution for this issue is a complex task, as we have to base a lot of this on “feel” while also trying to verify with Data." MCOC Game Team
    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/274203/gameplay-issues-fix-timeline#latest

    "we believe that a recent update to our game engine is the cause of the problems that players are experiencing"
    "Making those improvements will be a lengthy process where we will be overhauling a large part of the game to work with this engine update." MCOC Game Team
    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/276481/update-gameplay-concerns-affecting-parry-and-dexterity#latest

    "The assumption you've made is that this is somehow an easy thing to identify or fix. Neither of those things is true."
    "In this case, we believe it may have something to do with our Game Engine update, but can't say that for sure yet. That is something that touches literally every aspect of the game, so identifying what that could be is not something that can be done very quickly." Kabam Miike
    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/1851054#Comment_1851054


    I mean, if you call reading what Kabam say and basing an opinion off the facts they give, sure, I'm guessing.

    Research and facts aren't very popular on the forums.
    Apparently they can be countered by "Well Bill Clinton lied about having sexual relations", I may have to use that one myself when I disagree with someone.
    Same lol
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    slayer6 said:

    your not 100% on if kabam are telling truth or not either as much as you think you believe, do you believe everything you hear from people on the internet you don’t even know.

    No I don't believe everything I hear on the internet. For example, I don't believe someone who says the best option is to fire employees for an issue they admit they don't understand, or that a company should remove the option to spend while a bug is going on.

    But I'll tell you what I do believe, a game team representative who is informing us on the status, cause and complexity of a bug that kabam have no benefit to keep in game any longer than it takes to say "conspiracy theory". I believe them, because they have no reason to lie. What benefit could Kabam possibly have for keeping a bug in the game? Annoyed players, reduced spending in the short and long term, but hey, at least a few players bought a few revives?
  • DrZolaDrZola Member Posts: 9,019 ★★★★★
    edited August 2021
    Occam, Ocham or Ockham. Named for Franciscan friar and counterpoint to Aquinas, William of Ockham.

    Different spellings I assume result from conversion from Old English.

    And I urge the team to send relief so we can move on to clogging the forums with threads debating its sufficiency/ insufficiency.

    Dr. Zola
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Ebony_Naw said:

    Sounds to me like they have to rebuild portions of the game to get input and timing issues back in order, but sure let’s fire everyone working on that project. Maybe then we can have the front end engineers do a MUCH better job fixing the issues. You know, just to bring the forums this week full circle.

    Bittersteel may not know with absolute certainty, but logic would dictate employees would like to keep their company (and source of revenue) for as long as possible. I don’t care how many people say it, but I see no reason for Kabam to crash their own game.

    Second, Kabam has stated what they believe the problem is, and we have no reason to doubt them. Could they be lying? Sure, but if they are, why would they? If you agree that Kabam is not interested in self-sabotage then it would stand to reason that they have no reason to lie about their identification and goals in fixing the problems.

    There have been many, but this has got to be one of the strangest, most unintelligible conspiracy theories I have seen on these forums to date.

    I’ve responded to this, but was sent to the abyss of approval, I’m sure you’ll all see it in a few hours :D
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Ebony_Naw said:

    BitterSteel said:

    Ebony_Naw said:

    Sounds to me like they have to rebuild portions of the game to get input and timing issues back in order, but sure let’s fire everyone working on that project. Maybe then we can have the front end engineers do a MUCH better job fixing the issues. You know, just to bring the forums this week full circle.

    Bittersteel may not know with absolute certainty, but logic would dictate employees would like to keep their company (and source of revenue) for as long as possible. I don’t care how many people say it, but I see no reason for Kabam to crash their own game.

    Second, Kabam has stated what they believe the problem is, and we have no reason to doubt them. Could they be lying? Sure, but if they are, why would they? If you agree that Kabam is not interested in self-sabotage then it would stand to reason that they have no reason to lie about their identification and goals in fixing the problems.

    There have been many, but this has got to be one of the strangest, most unintelligible conspiracy theories I have seen on these forums to date.

    I’ve responded to this, but was sent to the abyss of approval, I’m sure you’ll all see it in a few hours :D
    Lol luckily I saw it. But a few hours? Mighty optimistic of you
    That’s what I get for editing my comment lol
  • Deuce2180Deuce2180 Member Posts: 121 ★
    GroundedWisdom said:

    The problem is these Posts are redundant. We know there are problems. They're working on them as fast as they can. It's not as if they want the game to be bugged.

    Does the bugs make people spend money on things like units for revives? That's good business for them.
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 4,413 ★★★★★
    Ebony_Naw said:

    BitterSteel said:

    Ebony_Naw said:

    BitterSteel said:

    Ebony_Naw said:

    Sounds to me like they have to rebuild portions of the game to get input and timing issues back in order, but sure let’s fire everyone working on that project. Maybe then we can have the front end engineers do a MUCH better job fixing the issues. You know, just to bring the forums this week full circle.

    Bittersteel may not know with absolute certainty, but logic would dictate employees would like to keep their company (and source of revenue) for as long as possible. I don’t care how many people say it, but I see no reason for Kabam to crash their own game.

    Second, Kabam has stated what they believe the problem is, and we have no reason to doubt them. Could they be lying? Sure, but if they are, why would they? If you agree that Kabam is not interested in self-sabotage then it would stand to reason that they have no reason to lie about their identification and goals in fixing the problems.

    There have been many, but this has got to be one of the strangest, most unintelligible conspiracy theories I have seen on these forums to date.

    I’ve responded to this, but was sent to the abyss of approval, I’m sure you’ll all see it in a few hours :D
    Lol luckily I saw it. But a few hours? Mighty optimistic of you
    That’s what I get for editing my comment lol
    As far as the communication thing though, I find it annoying when they say things like “later this month”, “by the end of this month” but don’t bother to update us as soon as they narrow in on a timeframe.

    I don’t need a by the minute blog, but I do think they can be more prompt with updates if there is what to update. At the same time, I don’t really care for a daily update that says the game is still broken, still working to repair the fix. So my desire for better communication really depends on what else there is to tell us.
    My concern is the compensation will be pointless if the sop event is already done or only 1 day from being done
  • Nix2222Nix2222 Member Posts: 121 ★★★
    BitterSteel said:

    slayer6 said:

    @BitterSteel they need to communicate better.
    Also if it’s to complex sack the people who can’t do their jobs properly, it would be a multi million dollar enterprise not just some back yard hack job, if a car company can’t provide a service that works on a car they can’t keep selling that car, it has to be fixed before selling more issues, so no more content releases and shut war and aq down.
    Those who havnt done some content if they wanna play can do catch ups with that stuff, while others can chill, then if they wanna do compo once bugs are fixed that’s up to them but selling a faulty product isn’t the way to go.
    Half those bugs with those champs you wrote are crazy minor and take a lot of fooling round to master, and as a whole these major bugs are ruining alliances in big squads because great players with high prestige are hard to find so there is a bigger picture also.
    I see your point with some stuff but it’s been over a month and they still have the $ stuff for sale that should be stopped or on hold zero spending actual money until fixed unless kabam are gonna refund $ amd units.
    That’s my view each person will have a different view some will stand for kabam and some don’t care and some are about had enough I just hope it’s fixed soon

    Kabam aren't selling a faulty product, and the contract you have with a car company is vastly different to the one you have with kabam while you play their game. The game is bugged, yes that's bad and yes we want it fixed as early as possible. But you're talking like you think someone specifically turned off parry, as if there's a switch somewhere and someone turned it off. This bug came about because they upgraded their unity game engine, doing so may have undone or changed hundreds of different timing parameters for parry and dex. From what I've read from Kabam Miike and DNA who have explained it, this was not a foreseeable bug, this wasn't a bug that you can just test. You can't test how upgrading a game engine is going to affect every part of the game, it just happens and Kabam are scrambling to fix it. Who would you fire for that? "Just fire someone" isn't a solution, it's something people jump to when they just want to be angry.

    So your solution to all this, is for kabam to stop allowing players to spend? That's definitely a new one. In a couple months when revenue is going to be lower because players are upset with the state of the game, you want Kabam to stop letting players spend. I'm curious, do you know the impact of that? Cause if you want a game to play, that's not the solution.
    Agree 100%. Spot on as usual.
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