Alliance Quest Season 9 and Map 8 - Coming Nov 19 - Discussion Thread

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  • Monk1Monk1 Member Posts: 751 ★★★★

    Monk1 said:

    Let’s not send any more compensation out unless going to increase our inventory…

    Some of us are running map 8, have planes it properly and are not burning items.

    Compensation is for those affected. If you aren't being affected, then you don't need it. But others might. And anyone running Map 6 and below deserves compensation for the bs they have had to face.
    Agree for first couple of days when unknown error.

    Anyone still playing lower maps now when known issues is stupid.

    Just start map 7 or 8 and even if don’t finish it is better than burning items on broken content
  • KnightZeroKnightZero Member Posts: 1,437 ★★★★★
    Monk1 said:

    Monk1 said:

    Let’s not send any more compensation out unless going to increase our inventory…

    Some of us are running map 8, have planes it properly and are not burning items.

    Compensation is for those affected. If you aren't being affected, then you don't need it. But others might. And anyone running Map 6 and below deserves compensation for the bs they have had to face.
    Agree for first couple of days when unknown error.

    Anyone still playing lower maps now when known issues is stupid.

    Just start map 7 or 8 and even if don’t finish it is better than burning items on broken content
    What? How do you expect people doing Map 4 or Map 5 to start Map 7? The nodes are way harder and actual planning is needed. Your suggestion makes no sense.
    All they can do is drop down the Map. And lose rewards.
  • CursedwingsCursedwings Member Posts: 2
    They have already said they are sending out something. It will probably be a couple of small revives and small hills. It won’t be anywhere near what we have all wasted.
  • Da2Vero33ManDa2Vero33Man Member Posts: 160
    I have a problem with Human Torch as the mini boss. He is over powered on map 5. I bring in Void 5* r5 max sig and if I miss one block I lose 80% of my health after his 5 hit combo. The parry issue is a big problem here and is missed a lot. I need to try for parry since hitting my block does enough damage that I would lose half my health in one fight against HT if I just block and do not parry. I seem to recall this problem coming up previously but perhaps I am mistaken.
  • emsehven2emsehven2 Member Posts: 4
    pls have longer timers for map 8 since the ai is too passive
  • SyndicatedSyndicated Member Posts: 640 ★★★
    edited November 2021
    Aaaand there's a little problem, modifiers are bugged too, we picked different mods but we got other BG mod.
  • Fifit76Fifit76 Member Posts: 3
    hello. I'm doing a buffed up path on map 8. after defeating venom I should get this cross fight

    and I got this one

    and the opponent was getting vigillance buff, not me
  • Da2Vero33ManDa2Vero33Man Member Posts: 160
    Yup. Day 4 map 5 and HT kills my 5* r5 duped Void and all I do is block his specials. He is over powered! Plus that annoying dex/parry problem is annoying when you really need to parry.
  • AZOG_AZOG_ Member Posts: 39
    You are taking away our pleasure of playing this game
  • horrendous_toohorrendous_too Member Posts: 236 ★★★
    Fifit76 said:

    hello. I'm doing a buffed up path on map 8. after defeating venom I should get this cross fight

    and I got this one

    and the opponent was getting vigillance buff, not me

    I noticed I had that cross fight too after that double buffed up lane as well. Didn't matter tons since I have found the crossfights to be completely worthless, but if we are going to have them it might be good to actually get the one that is supposed to be for the lane you are taking.
  • kconrad37kconrad37 Member Posts: 160 ★★
    Will you be opening a feedback thread for Map 8 after Day 5 begins/ends? I have some feedback related to paths and nodes I've faced, along with some general thoughts that I would like to share somewhere dedicated to Map 8 Feedback, specifically.

    Not that I am trying to lessen the problems Alliances are facing on lower level maps, but a dedicated space to discuss Map 8 would be more beneficial overall than trying to sort through the ether of discussions surrounding all maps.

    That being said, here are my thoughts so far:
    • Combining PULL, Flux Dispersal, and Right Back At It for every single shared/linked fight to Nimrod in section 1 is too much. There aren't enough champions that can easily and frequently use projectile attacks to do enough damage in the time that is given. Given the need for counters in other sections, these fights are more difficult and annoying than anything else. If you want to keep PULL, that is fine, but I think you should make a choice between Flux Dispersal and Right Back At It.
    • Silver Surfer on Path 4 of Section 1 is just kind of...mean? He's immune to shock damage even though the debuff stacks on him, and it even helps him hit harder. I understand that Map 8 is not supposed to be a walk in the park, but when I can easily take down Black Panther or She-Hulk in one fight, to timing out against Silver Surfer in the next? Just feels a little unbalanced to me.
    • Speaking of these paths that benefit from using Shock damage - The Hulk fight on Path 4 of Section 2 also feels just a little unbalanced in terms of difficulty. With the opportunity to go passively Unstoppable with his SMASH mechanic, you can be in complete control of the fight when suddenly mid-intercept he goes Unstoppable and then the fight is over, because he just completely pummeled you into the ground. I rather enjoy the other two fights on this path, but this one is totally hit or miss.
    • Boss Killer Cross Fights: Really cool concept, but also really unfortunate that they are only for 1 single fight. It's designed to help make the bosses easier to fight (in this case I am specifically talking about Peni Parker and Spider-Man 2099) but it also punishes you if you are unable to solo the fight, because then nobody else can make use of it. It would be nice if the Boss Killer Cross fights could act more like a Pre-Fight ability that can be applied at fight start - like Magneto(House of X) and his Guidance Pre-Fight. Once it's been applied, it sticks until the opponent has been defeated. It doesn't even have to stick around permanently either - give it a 3-4 fight duration until it expires. I don't know if this is mechanically possible but I think it would be more useful for taking down the final bosses of the quest than forcing one player to get them down in one go.
    • Fight durations: There are some paths that are easier than others, but there definitely paths out there that are not conducive to the amount of time we have per fight. I've watched players in my alliance fight the full duration of a fight (that's 3 minutes) and still have to go back in to finish up. Longer timers on these fights would help make these paths feel like less of a chore and remove the almost forced item use from timing out and losing half of your health.
    I hope that these comments find themselves somewhere useful. If there ends up being a discussion thread surrounding Map 8, I will re-post them there.
  • TyEdgeTyEdge Member Posts: 3,100 ★★★★★
    Another miss on compensation. Extra items and map crystals weren’t the answer. Glory was. Sigh.
  • IcedbobcarIcedbobcar Member Posts: 13
    I think enough is enough.
    We should All make a lockout and lockout of the game untill kabam can come up with a better solution than keep giving us these sorry but the bug is not fixed yet packet..
  • danielmathdanielmath Member Posts: 4,077 ★★★★★

    Did we just get a slap to the face or what

    Lol
  • TyEdgeTyEdge Member Posts: 3,100 ★★★★★

    Did we just get a slap to the face or what

    They said they would give you something. They gave you something. Always reliable to stand by their word.
  • kconrad37kconrad37 Member Posts: 160 ★★
    TyEdge said:

    Another miss on compensation. Extra items and map crystals weren’t the answer. Glory was. Sigh.

    Why was the answer Glory? Wasn't the idea to replenish the items used? I would say this does that far better than Glory ever could.
  • TyEdgeTyEdge Member Posts: 3,100 ★★★★★
    Crine60 said:

    kconrad37 said:

    TyEdge said:

    Another miss on compensation. Extra items and map crystals weren’t the answer. Glory was. Sigh.

    Why was the answer Glory? Wasn't the idea to replenish the items used? I would say this does that far better than Glory ever could.
    It shouldn't have been just glory but it needed to include glory because they said to drop to lower maps, which means less glory, and they would compensate but this doesn't compensate for the potential lost glory.
    Spot on. Perfect answer. They compensated for lost items. They compensated for lost map crystals. They didn’t compensate for lost rank rewards and peak milestones when the remedy they specifically proposed was to drop maps.
  • kconrad37kconrad37 Member Posts: 160 ★★
    Crine60 said:

    kconrad37 said:

    TyEdge said:

    Another miss on compensation. Extra items and map crystals weren’t the answer. Glory was. Sigh.

    Why was the answer Glory? Wasn't the idea to replenish the items used? I would say this does that far better than Glory ever could.
    It shouldn't have been just glory but it needed to include glory because they said to drop to lower maps, which means less glory, and they would compensate but this doesn't compensate for the potential lost glory.
    Oh okay, I didn't know they had said to drop to lower maps.

    Thanks for clearing that up!
  • Fit_Fun9329Fit_Fun9329 Member Posts: 2,107 ★★★★★

    Just finished day 1 on map 5. The timer really needs to be extended to 5 minutes. Had to put a 80% thanos down and almost timed out with a r3 apocalypse. This will lead to a situation on day 3/4 where no solos are possible.

    TLDR: for gods sake, just increase the timer, wouldn’t break the game

    Quick update regarding my assumption - I was correct.

    Yesterday was AQ map 5, day 4/5. Thanos Boss had 97% left before i went in. My team was a fully ramped up apocalypse r3, ibom sig 100 r3 and void 5* (for HT only).

    First try was with apocalypse. No brag here but I played almost perfectly, never got hit and had the perfect rotation. Timed out at 40%.

    Second try with ibom. Finished the fight but had a time out almost again.

    I mentioning it again - both very strong r3 champs of the current meta.

    If the timer was 5 minutes, i would’ve done the solo with apocalypse but basically you have not enough time. 3 minutes is simply not enough. This thanos was a little under 600k health - in 3 minutes it’s tough.
  • Just_grindingJust_grinding Member Posts: 115

    So just to throw it out there, how long do people on map 5 have to deal with guilly, ht and ms, with thanos? I don't mind the fights but it is totally uninteresting to me. I was hyped for the new season with all the spider based stuff, but then the minis aren't related really, the paths haven't changed at all and the boss doesn't make sense. At least when cyclops got the global it made sense with all the mutants everywhere and his kit was useful for fights like Emma with armor break or rogue with straight up damage. Spiderman vs ht and thanos is weird. It just looks like instead of freshening up the maps you're having a yard sale (boot sale for those of you in the colonies).

    Agreed, the global node should align with the minis. Making HT bleed Immune who champs like venom don’t do anything misses the point. Now some folks bring in champs for minis, others for specific lanes (bleed/poison immune - any of the global champs have that?) just bad game design, sigh

  • StellarStellar Member Posts: 1,082 ★★★★
    edited November 2021
    Badass84 said:




  • TyEdgeTyEdge Member Posts: 3,100 ★★★★★
    Badass84 said:


    If I was gonna use a Chapelle meme, I would’ve gone with Popcopy, personally.
  • IcedbobcarIcedbobcar Member Posts: 13
    Boycott Kabam.
    All these bug and devs/mods that think its good enough to try and buy us with some revives and potions and some glory.
    I'd say lets Boycott Kabam, its the only way to make Them fix the game. If we dont do it they will just keep treating us like trash. We Are their costumers, some Even Pay for the things in game. Its not right. On a scale from 1-5 costume care is a big fat 1.
    I CAN ONLY HOPE PPL WILL BOYCOTT THE GAME
  • danielmathdanielmath Member Posts: 4,077 ★★★★★
    thepiggy said:

    Map 8 is a mess.

    Timeouts everywhere
    Damage reduction
    Power gain
    Lanes not flexible
    Suicides unfriendly

    Each fight is like Peni Parker where we tap dance around the screen waiting for damage windows or stuff to wear off. Can't wait for epic mods to make this worse.

    That was not our experience or anyone i know
  • StellarStellar Member Posts: 1,082 ★★★★
    thepiggy said:

    Map 8 is a mess.

    Timeouts everywhere
    Damage reduction
    Power gain
    Lanes not flexible
    Suicides unfriendly

    Each fight is like Peni Parker where we tap dance around the screen waiting for damage windows or stuff to wear off. Can't wait for epic mods to make this worse.

    No it was fine for my alliance.
    Not the first day as we had to adapt to the new lanes and nodes but we did it and it was even fun to do.

    On the contrary, Map 5 for my second account was horrible
  • RapRap Member Posts: 3,223 ★★★★
    This cycle was a nightmare and we finished 20 million points lower than last cycle! It has cost alliances players, it has soured new players. And by the end almost nobody wanted to play it!
  • WorkingAsIntendedWorkingAsIntended Member Posts: 164 ★★
    You’ve been kabammed!!
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