sbb75 wrote: » This is such a strange business model. As much as I would like rewards I cant vote beforehand. I don't think Kabam deserves the benefit of the doubt that this promo will not require us to spend money. Most of the time people ask for likes if you are happy with a product or service. Never heard of customers being penalized or not rewarded because of not liking them. If the 1 million is not reached it has 0% to do with the customers and is on Kabam 100%. Kabam, Come up with something new or a promotion FIRST, then ask us if we liked it to let you know so you can do more... Or Kabam needs to do a better job of getting new players and retaining them.
drowsyhero34 wrote: » I have facebook, and I refuse to click "like" until Kabam does something worth liking. But every time I start to adjust to the new version of game-reality, something changes and screws up whatever it was I had been aiming for. I don't care about rewards for facebook likes, regardless of the rewards. I won't click "like" until the game is stable, consistent, and reliable.
TheBaldAvenger wrote: » drowsyhero34 wrote: » I have facebook, and I refuse to click "like" until Kabam does something worth liking. But every time I start to adjust to the new version of game-reality, something changes and screws up whatever it was I had been aiming for. I don't care about rewards for facebook likes, regardless of the rewards. I won't click "like" until the game is stable, consistent, and reliable. This I believe is called cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Crine60 wrote: » TheBaldAvenger wrote: » drowsyhero34 wrote: » I have facebook, and I refuse to click "like" until Kabam does something worth liking. But every time I start to adjust to the new version of game-reality, something changes and screws up whatever it was I had been aiming for. I don't care about rewards for facebook likes, regardless of the rewards. I won't click "like" until the game is stable, consistent, and reliable. This I believe is called cutting off your nose to spite your face. No, it is called having principles.
Aliab wrote: » I’m sure you guys have an answer already. There’s no way we get nothing if we don’t get 1m likes by dec4. You’re pushing your fan base to vote for you when you have still not even fixed the issue with blocking. You continually release fake bait LOL videos so people spend to get a champ then only to say the character was bugged. The game is more bugged than ever. And everyone is complaining about war yet you refuse to fix it! Your update was clearly just designed for you to make money and remove the aspect of skill so congratulations on ruining another part of your game. With all these players, if you fixed the game, don’t you think we would have helped you more to reach those milestones? How about you actually listen to what we are saying.
MarzGroove wrote: » Aliab wrote: » I’m sure you guys have an answer already. There’s no way we get nothing if we don’t get 1m likes by dec4. You’re pushing your fan base to vote for you when you have still not even fixed the issue with blocking. You continually release fake bait LOL videos so people spend to get a champ then only to say the character was bugged. The game is more bugged than ever. And everyone is complaining about war yet you refuse to fix it! Your update was clearly just designed for you to make money and remove the aspect of skill so congratulations on ruining another part of your game. With all these players, if you fixed the game, don’t you think we would have helped you more to reach those milestones? How about you actually listen to what we are saying. Did you get a two-for-one deal on tin foil hats?
Aliab wrote: » How about you actually listen to what we are saying.
Aliab wrote: » To be fair most people that play don’t have a Facebook account so I don’t understand why they would use such an old site. At least make an Instagram account or something and then it can also be linked to Facebook! They would get a lot more likes that way.
K1lltastic wrote: » people don't like being duped.
MarzGroove wrote: » K1lltastic wrote: » people don't like being duped. If I was duped, I would have an awesome signature ability.
Batty_Numppo wrote: » sbb75 wrote: » This is such a strange business model. As much as I would like rewards I cant vote beforehand. I don't think Kabam deserves the benefit of the doubt that this promo will not require us to spend money. Most of the time people ask for likes if you are happy with a product or service. Never heard of customers being penalized or not rewarded because of not liking them. If the 1 million is not reached it has 0% to do with the customers and is on Kabam 100%. Kabam, Come up with something new or a promotion FIRST, then ask us if we liked it to let you know so you can do more... Or Kabam needs to do a better job of getting new players and retaining them. Please tell me how the lack of entirely bonus content and its rewards is somehow a penalty.
GroundedWisdom wrote: » Covenanter77 wrote: » Unless a highly suspicious number of likes suddenly appear in the next few days (like bot generators or something) we are guaranteed to lose. Which means Kabam has successfully pissed off a huge portion if the fanbase by giving unreasonable deadlines. At the same time about 100K people have demonstrated which characters are most loved and hated in a poll. Which mean we can expect our favorite champs to be nerfed over the next few months. So basically we we all duped into confirming which champs are actually useful vs trash while clutching at a unreasonable goal. Well done Kabam. You win again. Evidently the glitches, AW ****, and terrible offers weren't enough for you. First of all, we don't know what will happen if we don't reach goal. There is a possibility they will run them regardless. Not to give false hope, just pointing out that it's possible. Secondly, they do not nerf Champs based on popularity or any other factor commented on the Forum. They don't bait conversations to nerf Champs. That's just not a thing.
Covenanter77 wrote: » Unless a highly suspicious number of likes suddenly appear in the next few days (like bot generators or something) we are guaranteed to lose. Which means Kabam has successfully pissed off a huge portion if the fanbase by giving unreasonable deadlines. At the same time about 100K people have demonstrated which characters are most loved and hated in a poll. Which mean we can expect our favorite champs to be nerfed over the next few months. So basically we we all duped into confirming which champs are actually useful vs trash while clutching at a unreasonable goal. Well done Kabam. You win again. Evidently the glitches, AW ****, and terrible offers weren't enough for you.
K1lltastic wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » Covenanter77 wrote: » Unless a highly suspicious number of likes suddenly appear in the next few days (like bot generators or something) we are guaranteed to lose. Which means Kabam has successfully pissed off a huge portion if the fanbase by giving unreasonable deadlines. At the same time about 100K people have demonstrated which characters are most loved and hated in a poll. Which mean we can expect our favorite champs to be nerfed over the next few months. So basically we we all duped into confirming which champs are actually useful vs trash while clutching at a unreasonable goal. Well done Kabam. You win again. Evidently the glitches, AW ****, and terrible offers weren't enough for you. First of all, we don't know what will happen if we don't reach goal. There is a possibility they will run them regardless. Not to give false hope, just pointing out that it's possible. Secondly, they do not nerf Champs based on popularity or any other factor commented on the Forum. They don't bait conversations to nerf Champs. That's just not a thing. I dunno, based on previous experience, I'd say his presumption about the outcome much closer matches Kabam's track record than your own.
GroundedWisdom wrote: » K1lltastic wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » Covenanter77 wrote: » Unless a highly suspicious number of likes suddenly appear in the next few days (like bot generators or something) we are guaranteed to lose. Which means Kabam has successfully pissed off a huge portion if the fanbase by giving unreasonable deadlines. At the same time about 100K people have demonstrated which characters are most loved and hated in a poll. Which mean we can expect our favorite champs to be nerfed over the next few months. So basically we we all duped into confirming which champs are actually useful vs trash while clutching at a unreasonable goal. Well done Kabam. You win again. Evidently the glitches, AW ****, and terrible offers weren't enough for you. First of all, we don't know what will happen if we don't reach goal. There is a possibility they will run them regardless. Not to give false hope, just pointing out that it's possible. Secondly, they do not nerf Champs based on popularity or any other factor commented on the Forum. They don't bait conversations to nerf Champs. That's just not a thing. I dunno, based on previous experience, I'd say his presumption about the outcome much closer matches Kabam's track record than your own. The nerfs during 12.0 weren't the result of conversations on the Forum. They had their own data and reasons for them. It certainly wasn't because people said they liked them in discussions. There is no risk of talking about Champs.
K1lltastic wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » K1lltastic wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » Covenanter77 wrote: » Unless a highly suspicious number of likes suddenly appear in the next few days (like bot generators or something) we are guaranteed to lose. Which means Kabam has successfully pissed off a huge portion if the fanbase by giving unreasonable deadlines. At the same time about 100K people have demonstrated which characters are most loved and hated in a poll. Which mean we can expect our favorite champs to be nerfed over the next few months. So basically we we all duped into confirming which champs are actually useful vs trash while clutching at a unreasonable goal. Well done Kabam. You win again. Evidently the glitches, AW ****, and terrible offers weren't enough for you. First of all, we don't know what will happen if we don't reach goal. There is a possibility they will run them regardless. Not to give false hope, just pointing out that it's possible. Secondly, they do not nerf Champs based on popularity or any other factor commented on the Forum. They don't bait conversations to nerf Champs. That's just not a thing. I dunno, based on previous experience, I'd say his presumption about the outcome much closer matches Kabam's track record than your own. The nerfs during 12.0 weren't the result of conversations on the Forum. They had their own data and reasons for them. It certainly wasn't because people said they liked them in discussions. There is no risk of talking about Champs. Their track record also includes how they treat their customers. You may say there is the chance that they'll just give the crystals anyways after the date hits, while, I doubt they will, based on their previous actions. The nerfs that happened as a result of 12.0 really did nothing to the game, as they released equally, or more overpowered champs directly afterwards, causing a new wave of specific champs needed to complete content, but I didn't mention those, and that's a bit of a red herring to the initial statement I made. There are many more examples, but I know you like to sit around here simply arguing the devils advocate side, so it's really not worth it. Based on previous experience with Kabam, I stand by my previous statement that his perceived outcome is still going to be closer to the actual outcome than your own. That's all that can be 'argued', so you can wait, just like me, to either be proven right, or wrong.
danielmath wrote: » Have you ever played the game? There is not a single new champ who isn't complete trash compared to pre 12.0 switch or widow. A 4/55 blade is MUCH worse then a pre 12.0 5/50 switch
GroundedWisdom wrote: » I'm saying we can wait to see what happens before we get on the Disappointment Train.
