Is T1a really an issue?

Is it really an issue. I hear folks complain about how it's hard to get and there is a shortage...Well, how about this? Don't upgrade that 4* champ that you never play anyways.

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RagamugginGunner

Guys, one person says it isn't an issue and that everyone is actually wrong and not having an issue with t1a. He must be right and everyone else must be wrong.

Mhykke

There are few things in this community that annoy me more than when someone suggests the valor store is a viable source for t1 alphas. It’s a one time event, with a total max available of 5.

Please stop using the valor store as a viable source of t1 alphas. It is not.

Speeds80

@CoatHang3r would you be dissapointed if more alphas were brought into the game?

Kpatrix

What is the problem with ranking up champs as you get them if you want ? This was never an issue until 5*s came along. Most people would run proving grounds daily to build up an inventory of t1-3 cats, and I still keep that inventory full.

5*s take a lot of alphas. It's not going to break the game to make acquiring them a faster process. The max available weekly doesn't always fit the demand.

We all want kabam to take a look at this since the old model of collecting shards has become outdated. You can pull from crystals now and getting them is much more common. Because of that, the distribution of alphas need to keep pace.

I've always ranked 4* to r3 as soon as I got them,what's wrong with taking 5* to r2 at the same speed, I even take some 5* to r5 if they are someone I see a use for.

CoatHang3r

Renegade_Doggy wrote: »

CoatHang3r wrote: »

CloserByTomorrow wrote: »

CoatHang3r wrote: »

Ajar wrote: »

You get only without the monthly event every 6 days 2 t1a. That means 10 a month. The monthly gives you 4 so that's only 14 t1a a month. That means you cant R3 a 5 star every month.
The Alliance event rewards are the same since the start. It's like they haven't progressed like the rest of the game that's ****.

Monthly has 5, 6 if you also do normal. But we have a new monthly coming up that may include more.
Monthly AQ at your level has 6 with 775g per cycle, 9 with 1425g per cycle or 15 with 3750g per cycle. All possible for a top 20 ally.
Arenas have 3 per month.
Yes 3 day is 10 a month.
I’m counting 34 a month at your level with max glory expenditure, 28 if you spend 1425 glory per cycle saving 1300 glory.
That’s just shy of 3 r3 a month @ 28 a month and you easily have the glory to buy the extra two to round it out.

Dude nobody in top Ally’s is spending glory on t1a. Maybe in a pinch but not regularly. We shouldn’t have to. We don’t earn enough glory to
Not spend it all on t2. Personally mostly
Buy potions with it. But to use it all on t1 is just stupid.

If you are not taking advantage of t1a availability that doesn’t exactly reinforce the belief there is a lack of t1a.

Give me an example of a top ally and show me their expenditures of glory cause all you have offered in that regard is baseless words.

Stoping getting hit or bring someone with heals if you are wasting glory on pots. If you are still getting hit use units for pots which is essentially buying t1a since you cannot just buy t1a with units with any regularity.

But the do not have to use all glory on t1 to regularly rank 3 5s anyways at that level they still have plenty left for pots.

You must not be in top tier. That would explain how you are consistently arguing that there are enough T1A. I understand now.

Carry on troll. Atleast Miike has recognized that there is an issue.

What’s top tier people keep saying this?
Is it top 1000 tbhr? 734
Top 300 AQ? Placing below that for months now. >200 for weeks.
T2a for 4 r4s? 5000 shards away.
Top 100 arena at will? There.
Every 4 star champion released in crystals with 27 5s( many dupes and double dupes)?

Look me up in game I’m not hiding behind an alias on the forums like others.

You’ll find I’m actually arguing there is enough t1a to r3 at the pace champions are released and refuting the falsehoods, cherry picked evidence, and entitlement being thrown about by people.

Miike has not recognized an issue he has taken your feedback to the team.

@Speeds80 Yeah I’d like more so I’m looking forward to uncollected EQ. What I’m not going to do is align myself with flawed reasoning and outright lies people employ to suggest we should have more. There is also a delicate balance to be maintained because if rank up materials are free flowing the arena scores skyrocket and you can then only compete by buying your champions. With 5* arenas on the horizon I don’t want to be shut out because I don’t buy my champions.
Furthermore if rank up materials become available at a faster pace all around it devalues the time I’ve put into my account to get where I am today.

Speeds80

@CoatHang3r I hadn't seen where the reward were released for the uncollected eq? Please advise

LeNoirFaineant

As I have said before, @CoatHang3r has a 600k account and ranked tons of champs when everyone had more alphas than they knew what to do with. Now that he doesn't rank many champs he can't understand why anyone has an alpha problem. But this whole discussion is so tired I'd gladly struggle with alphas forever if it would go away.

CoatHang3r

LeNoirFaineant wrote: »

As I have said before, @CoatHang3r has a 600k account and ranked tons of champs when everyone had more alphas than they knew what to do with. Now that he doesn't rank many champs he can't understand why anyone has an alpha problem. But this whole discussion is so tired I'd gladly struggle with alphas forever if it would go away.

Dude as I have said before 5* we’re not readily available to me when we were getting t1a from map3 crystals in AQ milestones, just stop making **** up it’s not helping your cause. I rank up champs regularly, 1 5* from r1 to r3 around every two weeks along side the new 4* to 3/30. Or a 4* from 3/30 to 5/50 if I find them more valuable than a 5 *.

Don’t know what you are getting at.

@Speeds80 I don’t know they will be there just feel they will be there given they are in every other EQ

LeNoirFaineant

@CoatHang3r you still ranked a ton of champs when the rest of us were selling t1 alphas because they were coming out our ears. The point still stands. The fact that you have only two ranked 5*s and only two 5*s on your profile despite having a 600k account only proves that you ranked like crazy when alphas were everywhere and now you are very careful with who you rank. I have a 400k account and wouldn't trade mine for yours. But regardless, some of us currently have alpha problems. I don't care that you don't. Congrats. The discussion is pointless.

CoatHang3r

LeNoirFaineant wrote: »

@CoatHang3r you still ranked a ton of champs when the rest of us were selling t1 alphas because they were coming out our ears. The point still stands. The fact that you have only two ranked 5*s and only two 5*s on your profile despite having a 600k account only proves that you ranked like crazy when alphas were everywhere and now you are very careful with who you rank. I have a 400k account and wouldn't trade mine for yours. But regardless, some of us currently have alpha problems. I don't care that you don't. Congrats. The discussion is pointless.

No the fact is I was limited by t4b so I couldn’t rank a ton of champions and probably ranked those 4* to a useful level much slower than I can rank my 5* now. You are trying to create a narrative and it’s not going to work because quite simply t4b was much more scare when t1a was popping out of AQ crystals that’s why you had so much t1a, you had so little t4b. You had no control over what materials you obtained unlike now with glory where you ditctate what you obtain, hence the mismanagement I talk about.

Btw I’m also 0/11 featured so it’s not like I had a lot of options; and really wouldn’t not having 5* on my profile actually say I did not rank like crazy? I have the equivalent of 10 r3 5s all ranked after the supposed alpha shortage. I also have 5 r1s.

Just stop speculating on how I rank and how I manage my account I’ve laid it out before so it’s not some mystery you need to fill in the gaps for by making this **** up.

Yeah manage your resources and rank wisely and those alpha problems won’t be a problem. Oh look how the hell did you get 3 r4s 1 being a new released champ with an alpha shortage? Come off it and live that line in your alliances description, “we are a no drama team”. It also shows your ally as a whole is not concerned with acquiring every alpha the can with no arena minimums. Play less earn less.

Speeds80

You have faith in kabam coat, I'm actually quite concerned that the new uncollected eq will have everything but alphas, it's one of the reasons I've been so active in these discussions, I guess I shouldn't be disappointed if it's got t2a shards because technically that's what I'm annoyed at missing from having to spend all my glory on t1as. but if they decide to give us t4bs and t4cs and a minuscule amount of t2bs and zero t1as (I can see their logic in thinking it's too basic a resource for high level players to be concerned about) I can foresee the t4c alliances fuming already

LeNoirFaineant

CoatHang3r wrote: »

LeNoirFaineant wrote: »

@CoatHang3r you still ranked a ton of champs when the rest of us were selling t1 alphas because they were coming out our ears. The point still stands. The fact that you have only two ranked 5*s and only two 5*s on your profile despite having a 600k account only proves that you ranked like crazy when alphas were everywhere and now you are very careful with who you rank. I have a 400k account and wouldn't trade mine for yours. But regardless, some of us currently have alpha problems. I don't care that you don't. Congrats. The discussion is pointless.

No the fact is I was limited by t4b so I couldn’t rank a ton of champions and probably ranked those 4* to a useful level much slower than I can rank my 5* now. You are trying to create a narrative and it’s not going to work because quite simply t4b was much more scare when t1a was popping out of AQ crystals that’s why you had so much t1a, you had so little t4b. You had no control over what materials you obtained unlike now with glory where you ditctate what you obtain, hence the mismanagement I talk about.

Btw I’m also 0/11 featured so it’s not like I had a lot of options; and really wouldn’t not having 5* on my profile actually say I did not rank like crazy? I have the equivalent of 10 r3 5s all ranked after the supposed alpha shortage. I also have 5 r1s.

Just stop speculating on how I rank and how I manage my account I’ve laid it out before so it’s not some mystery you need to fill in the gaps for by making this **** up.

Yeah manage your resources and rank wisely and those alpha problems won’t be a problem. Oh look how the hell did you get 3 r4s 1 being a new released champ with an alpha shortage? Come off it and live that line in your alliances description, “we are a no drama team”. It also shows your ally as a whole is not concerned with acquiring every alpha the can with no arena minimums. Play less earn less.

LMAO. I had to wait weeks to get enough alphas to rank my 5* Blade because of the alpha problem. That's a recent addition. Hard to see how you got to 600k by being careful with rankings before 5*s but whatever. And I like the people in my alliance and I'm not going to kick good people because they don't grind arena. Not everyone has time for that. Lot's of good alliances don't get the alpha from the arena event. Arena is a chore. I run enough to get the alpha but I have no interest in arena requirements. Alphas are a low level resource and we used to have them coming out of our ears without arena requirements. I have always managed my resources wisely. I have 14000 units without buying any. I saved a million battlechips for my LOL run. I have12 million gold. Alphas continue to be a problem. Glad they aren't for you but that doesn't help. And BTW I'm 0-14 on featured and 9 of my 5*s are still rank 1.

Speeds80

Haha I'm 1/1 (sparky) and I only bought that cos I got a tech awakening from 5.3 and had been saving shards for the November pool, I'm actually back
To needing tech t4cs again(I'm not in a t4c alliance) but that's kind of a nice feeling haha

CoatHang3r

@LeNoirFaineant why is it you had to wait weeks to rank Blade? where were your alphas going prior to that? Why didn’t you have alphas banked with the possibility of r4ing him in mind? You should easily be earning 15 a month if you are super causal then you had valor to buy another 5 just from doing the monthly EQ. I’ll tell you that right now if I pull a 5* worth r4 it will be one AQ cycle or less and they’ll be r4 due to how I manage my resources. I also took both RR an Elektra to r4 from r2 within two weeks of each other just after the introduction of grandmaster crystals. That was actually a funny time, I joined an open low level ally that was supposed to be running map3 but thy ended up mostly running map4/5 when I was there due to reduced or free AQ and usually only completing 2bgs with left me with far less alphas than I would’ve had if I was in an alliance more suited for my level.

I have every 3* completely maxed aside from the 5 who are not at sig 99. Every 4* available from crystals at 3:30 or better with half at sig 99 and only 4 from crystals who are not awakened but could be with my awakening gem stash. That’s a large portion of my 600k. I love ranking champions

LeNoirFaineant

CoatHang3r wrote: »

@LeNoirFaineant why is it you had to wait weeks to rank Blade? where were your alphas going prior to that? Why didn’t you have alphas banked with the possibility of r4ing him in mind? You should easily be earning 15 a month if you are super causal then you had valor to buy another 5 just from doing the monthly EQ. I’ll tell you that right now if I pull a 5* worth r4 it will be one AQ cycle or less and they’ll be r4 due to how I manage my resources. I also took both RR an Elektra to r4 from r2 within two weeks of each other just after the introduction of grandmaster crystals. That was actually a funny time, I joined an open low level ally that was supposed to be running map3 but thy ended up mostly running map4/5 when I was there due to reduced or free AQ and usually only completing 2bgs with left me with far less alphas than I would’ve had if I was in an alliance more suited for my level.

I have every 3* completely maxed aside from the 5 who are not at sig 99. Every 4* available from crystals at 3:30 or better with half at sig 99 and only 4 from crystals who are not awakened but could be with my awakening gem stash. That’s a large portion of my 600k. I love ranking champions

I have over 60 maxed 3*s. All my 4*s are 30/30 or better. We seem to be the same except you ranked a bunch when alphas were everywhere. We arent't going to agree and that's OK. Maybe Kabam will do something and maybe they won't but I'm tired of the argument.

DarkestDestroyer

So @CoatHang3r shows everyone his account to prove no shortage, and all people say is when he ranked them?

How do you guys know when he ranked his champs? You don't...

Just admit there isn't a shortage, 8 a week is more than enough.

CoatHang3r

LeNoirFaineant wrote: »

CoatHang3r wrote: »

@LeNoirFaineant why is it you had to wait weeks to rank Blade? where were your alphas going prior to that? Why didn’t you have alphas banked with the possibility of r4ing him in mind? You should easily be earning 15 a month if you are super causal then you had valor to buy another 5 just from doing the monthly EQ. I’ll tell you that right now if I pull a 5* worth r4 it will be one AQ cycle or less and they’ll be r4 due to how I manage my resources. I also took both RR an Elektra to r4 from r2 within two weeks of each other just after the introduction of grandmaster crystals. That was actually a funny time, I joined an open low level ally that was supposed to be running map3 but thy ended up mostly running map4/5 when I was there due to reduced or free AQ and usually only completing 2bgs with left me with far less alphas than I would’ve had if I was in an alliance more suited for my level.

I have every 3* completely maxed aside from the 5 who are not at sig 99. Every 4* available from crystals at 3:30 or better with half at sig 99 and only 4 from crystals who are not awakened but could be with my awakening gem stash. That’s a large portion of my 600k. I love ranking champions

I have over 60 maxed 3*s. All my 4*s are 30/30 or better. We seem to be the same except you ranked a bunch when alphas were everywhere. We arent't going to agree and that's OK. Maybe Kabam will do something and maybe they won't but I'm tired of the argument.

We seem to be the same? One glaring difference is that I have 25% more champions and 50% more Tbhr. I dunno why you keep saying I ranked more somehow when it was t4b that was the limiting factor not t1a. Back then when “alphas where everywhere” t4bs where nowhere, I think people were lucky to get 8 a month.

And thanks for answering the questions...

Ajar

Lol @CoatHang3r first of all I don't get t1a from aq crystals. And forcing me to use my glory on t1a is crazy. I mean it's an old Ressource you can't possibly be serious, but that you are comparing place 740 or 200 something to me. Talk for once to the guys in 4loki I assume you guys are in the same Alliance family. And you will her the same problem with t1a from them. Have have 2 5 stars in your profile. How many are on R2 or higher? And how many r5 do you have I highly doubt that you you have as many as I do even if you have more rating than I am.

And Nirmal difficulty is one t1a buhhu that's so awesome I can't believe it. So I am supposed to waste 2 hours Autoplay for 1 t1a? Yep that's a great idea. The monthly is on 1 rank like r1 to r2 so now I must rank up a few more Champs.

WolverDominator

Yes, when you are losing outdated t4c because of missing t1a, there is a true resource issue. No discussion.

CoatHang3r

Forcing you to use glory to rank champions, yeah that’s like the core purpose of glory, ffs where do you come up with this and how do you not see the flaw in this reasoning?

Oh you have more higher ranked champions than me, access to more resources but somehow are ranking less often than me? are you freaking serious? You obviously have enough resources ffs.

The break down is 21 5/50, 2 4/55, 8 3/45, 12 2/35, and 5 r1.

Now tell me you have so many more and used so many more resources but somehow have less resources available than I do.

Renegade_Doggy

Here's the breakdown:

29 4R5
3 5R4
13 5R3
8 5R2
4 5R1

Top 200 alliance - 6+ months
Top 50 alliance - 2 months

Every single person we recruit, and every single person we speak to, in this top tier, has the same issue. Shortage of T1.

I am glad you are able to make it work. By my calculations, that is 32 less T1A you've needed to get where you are.

Weekly I am buying 3 T1A for Glory, rank for all 3-day events, fully explore all event quests. I even spent valor to get 5/5 T1A, which, is simply extra. Nor does it include a special event that likely will happen.

In December, we will have multiple events which will be giving us even more 5* shards. My napkin calculation has 4 available 5* shard crystals with what is currently announced (story mode, EQ), without incorporating any AQ/AW winnings, shards from Summoner Advancement, or other sources.
With 4 dupes, I am ok.

With 1-4 dupes, I could need 10-40 T1A to even rank.

So, I can hope for dupes, of my existing 5* pool, which is a waste in itself as there is only 3 that would be considered a good dupe.

Or, I can hope for non-dupes, to further bottleneck myself, and add onto the 81 T1A shortage I demonstrated with my prior posting... to bring the shortage from 81 to anywhere from 91-131 T1A.

Don't think I'm gonna get that many T1A to get caught up next month. But I will certainly get more T4C and T4B I cant use!

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xNig

5x 5R4
21x 4R5
4x 5R3
10x 4R4
7x 5R2

Not having T1A shortages.

HENRIQUE_FORTE

I don't have T1A shortage because I am not at top level yet. But when I do get there I am sure I'd rather focus on getting those rarer resources than basic ones like T1A.

I suggest a daily event quest that gives T1A (or shards).

CoatHang3r

@Renegade_Doggy There will be 72 5s in the basic pool in December and you have ~26 from that pool. What do you think your odds of duping are?

Now you get 9 t1a via AQ, given you are able to get all other t1a for the month you’ll earn 28 t1a next month. That’s just shy of r3ing 3 5s that month, you will be ranking a champion every 3 days. So wheres the shortage?

Have you been one to compare 4* to 5* for rank up cost? Look at how many 3/30s you have which are the equivalent to your r1 5s. And you have a far larger “shortage” of t4b. Because that is the 4* bottleneck.

Ranks a champ every three days earning a rate of ~1 t1a a day and days there is a shortage. FFS you are not meant to bring every champion to max efficiency as you earn them. Come off it, get real.

By your calculations t2a and t5b and suffering a shortage cause you can only r5 once this year. And can have at max 9 r4~ with a Pontiac of having 72 5*s.

Ridiculous.

CoatHang3r

INTEGRAL wrote: »

No we are lying

I agree with Integral.

*And it’s fitting because it’s done with numbers.

Speeds80

your maths is off there with every 3 days ranking less than 3 champs
In a month is not once every 3 days, I think you mean 10 days, and again you are saying we should be spending all of our glory on t1as. Which most people don't like as a solution. we are talking about a balance problem, not an avaiLability issue,

Fthewigg

Being able to block certain people's posts is just plain AWESOME. Makes this forum so less painful. Pity they still show up in replies

Masks

I really pity the alliance in which the trolls in...imagine got to listen to them in chat group.
If me I be long gone.pathetic to be associated with them.

CoatHang3r

Speeds80 wrote: »

your maths is off there with every 3 days ranking less than 3 champs
In a month is not once every 3 days, I think you mean 10 days, and again you are saying we should be spending all of our glory on t1as. Which most people don't like as a solution. we are talking about a balance problem, not an avaiLability issue,

Yeah just dawned on me in the middle of an arena match when i was comparing that rate to 4s in previous AQ seasons. Every three days HAHA! Every 6 days. Which BTW is a faster rate or an equal rate that you could do a 4/40 back in the day and definitely faster than you could 5/50. Yeah spend your glory on those materials Renegade has figured it out,still thinks it’s a bitter pill but does what needs to be done to keep up.