5.4.6 Ultron needs a nerf

While I usually don't like nerfs I feel like this one is needed, this is my second account and I have 0 champs that can do this fight unless I use excessive revives, the only counters I have for it are 3*, I feel like a fight that requires specific counters shouldn't exist this early in the game

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Terra

Just because *you* can't deal with him, doesn't mean he needs a nerf across the board.
The fight doesn't need specific counters, some champions just make it more manageable.

BitterSteel

I feel like a fight that requires specific counters shouldn't exist this early in the game

If the fight literally just before Act 6 shouldn’t require specific counters, when should?

SkyLord7000

Beat that whole quest with just a 3* Loki

He doesn’t need a nerf

Qwerty12345

There is literally a 3 star Loki challenge which people do / solo him with. Plenty of videos on youtube.

I have a hard time believing there isn't some kind of counter you aren't thinking of that you have that would eventually get him down. It may not be easy... but it is doable.

One piece of advice... if you are planning to chip at him, and it looks like things aren't going so well / he's gaining health... quick out of the game. You will lose progress, which will include the health he gained.

Panchulon21

I did this fight with a 3 star loki when it first came out…

Bocksarox

This is a bad take.

ItsDamien

Next post will be:

Act 6 needs a nerf and to allow 4*.

Reasoning:
My alt account doesn’t have any good 6* and the enemies would be too tough for my current 4* roster.

TheInfinty

Nah he’s a fair fight. Any champ can really do it just some make it more manageable. Annoying sometimes sure but not nerf worthy

Ceder

Next post will be:

Act 6 needs a nerf and to allow 4*.

Reasoning:
My alt account doesn’t have any good 6* and the enemies would be too tough for my current 4* roster.

Lmao, but seriously they need to allow 4*'s in act 6, it'd make getting Cav so much easier

Ceder

Nah he’s a fair fight. Any champ can really do it just some make it more manageable. Annoying sometimes sure but not nerf worthy

Nah his Regen is extremely op, if you don't hit that interval then he'll heal to full

Ceder

Just because *you* can't deal with him, doesn't mean he needs a nerf across the board.
The fight doesn't need specific counters, some champions just make it more manageable.

Nah you gotta hit that health interval or he'll regen

Wozzle007

Yes the fight can be done with a 3* Loki if you have the skills needed, but it’s obviously easier with specific counters. This is the final boss for act 5 so it should need to have at least a somewhat robust roster to get by. This fight is the gate to act 6 and the fight shouldn’t be easy. So if you don’t have the best champions to counter him, grind through the MEQ and SEQ for a few months until you pull the champion you need. I think this was done with 4* champs or at most 5* R3 for most people when it was released. No shame in building your roster up first.

Pikolu

Nah he’s a fair fight. Any champ can really do it just some make it more manageable. Annoying sometimes sure but not nerf worthy
Nah his Regen is extremely op, if you don't hit that interval then he'll heal to full

you can get around his regen by simply not placing a debuff on him while his regen is active... It would make the fight more difficult to do, but most anyone can still do this fight.

BitterSteel

How can you do stuff like EoP on your main and then complain that Act 5 is too specific? I really don’t understand your point of view.

You’ve done almost the whole game, but this is where you draw the line?

Zippy_halligan

No, he doesnt need a nerf 🤣

Genuinely laughed at this post, some people just like to complain

TheTrueBeast10

I did it with Sabertooth and some synergy back in the day. There's plenty of outside the box counters

SpideyFunko

ain’t no way this is a serious post

Rasilover

While I usually don't like nerfs I feel like this one is needed, this is my second account and I have 0 champs that can do this fight unless I use excessive revives, the only counters I have for it are 3*, I feel like a fight that requires specific counters shouldn't exist this early in the game

Dude. Just say that you are not ready for the fight

Etm34

Beat that whole quest with just a 3* Loki

He doesn’t need a nerf

The payoff to that was so satisfying. That 3* Loki took him down faster than my 5* Corvus did back in the day

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PapaMidnite007

Red Magneto just shuts him down one sp3 and boom he goes....

PapaMidnite007

And Ultron needs a nerf? So many new champs have been released that can counter him so easily.

Malreck04

How do you have such consistently bad takes

Kerneas

Nah he’s a fair fight. Any champ can really do it just some make it more manageable. Annoying sometimes sure but not nerf worthy
Nah his Regen is extremely op, if you don't hit that interval then he'll heal to full
you can get around his regen by simply not placing a debuff on him while his regen is active... It would make the fight more difficult to do, but most anyone can still do this fight.

There is still Vigor.

I don't think he needs a nerf, but I could see removing Vigor as justified. The fight needs a slow approach, since you can't parry, he evades all the time and hitting block is also a bad idea (armor up shuts down your abilities fast). And Vigor requires you to play swiftly and aggressively or you are stuck forever.

But there are still many options these days. I have done the 3* Loki challenge recently and it's fine to do, there are many options for that fight, so I don't think it needs a nerf, especially when I look at Act 5 (&5.4) rewards.

SirGamesBond

I don't know you guys smoking.... But act5 needs that auto complete option that a guy posted last week for cav EQ.
Press a button and boom, act5.1 to act5.4 done.

Terra

Nah he’s a fair fight. Any champ can really do it just some make it more manageable. Annoying sometimes sure but not nerf worthy
Nah his Regen is extremely op, if you don't hit that interval then he'll heal to full
you can get around his regen by simply not placing a debuff on him while his regen is active... It would make the fight more difficult to do, but most anyone can still do this fight.
There is still Vigor.

I don't think he needs a nerf, but I could see removing Vigor as justified. The fight needs a slow approach, since you can't parry, he evades all the time and hitting block is also a bad idea (armor up shuts down your abilities fast). And Vigor requires you to play swiftly and aggressively or you are stuck forever.

But there are still many options these days. I have done the 3* Loki challenge recently and it's fine to do, there are many options for that fight, so I don't think it needs a nerf, especially when I look at Act 5 (&5.4) rewards.

That Ultron has a evade timer of every 7 seconds I believe. So it can be worked around.
Removing Vigor just makes it child's play and no challenge.

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Pikolu

Nah he’s a fair fight. Any champ can really do it just some make it more manageable. Annoying sometimes sure but not nerf worthy
Nah his Regen is extremely op, if you don't hit that interval then he'll heal to full
you can get around his regen by simply not placing a debuff on him while his regen is active... It would make the fight more difficult to do, but most anyone can still do this fight.
There is still Vigor.

I don't think he needs a nerf, but I could see removing Vigor as justified. The fight needs a slow approach, since you can't parry, he evades all the time and hitting block is also a bad idea (armor up shuts down your abilities fast). And Vigor requires you to play swiftly and aggressively or you are stuck forever.

But there are still many options these days. I have done the 3* Loki challenge recently and it's fine to do, there are many options for that fight, so I don't think it needs a nerf, especially when I look at Act 5 (&5.4) rewards.

If vigor is out healing your damage, then literally quit the instant vigor comes up. I had to do that on the pre-nerfed 6.1.5 Crossbones back in the day. It really is an non-issue since it is so easy to farm up revives.