EOP - Modok thread

Lpoo

What are your ideas for counters/ objectives?

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Terra

I used Herc/Masacre.
5 revs, 1 on Masacre, 4 on Herc, because I'm a stubborn scrub

Deacon

why is no one mentioning Hyperion .. very manageable win against him using Hype.

Typhoon

Got my solos with BWDO and She-Hulk

Rasilover

1 revive with quake for raw damage objective

Rasilover

Just soloed with massacre!

UnobtainiumClaws

5⭐️ R4 Massacre did a solo. I was genuinely surprised.

I did the other objective 6*R3 Hercules with two revives 🤷🏻‍♂️

Lpoo

BWDO was an easier play than Hercules for me. I needed 1 revive for her due to a mistake, but used 3 with herc

Bugmat78

Used R2 Masacre and R4 Herc

Jaded

why is no one mentioning Hyperion .. very manageable win against him using Hype.

I tried hypes and first attempt modok auto blocked the sp1 went unblockable and screwed me all up. Ended up being much easier with Angela.

Real_Madrid_76_2

Really rude ai.
When he uses first hit of combo as a whiff attack and i dash forward, he literally uses his entire combo on my sad monkey

AverageDesi

I'd like to express my gratitude to whoever put tranquility node. It make sit possibel to use the 30% boosts while running suicides not to mention overcome the heal reversal of sp1 modoks

Berlad8

Used 5* R4 BWDO lol. cost me 4 revives.

for the #raw damage objective i almost soloed him with 6* r3 sunspot. cost me 1 revive.

Sw0rdMaster

Did it with Hercules for 2 objectives and BWDO for the 3rd objective

Terra

I'd like to express my gratitude to whoever put tranquility node. It make sit possibel to use the 30% boosts while running suicides not to mention overcome the heal reversal of sp1 modoks
Next week I all but guarantee some suicides users complaining that nodes always harm suicides lol

Good. Not all content should be geared around them.

altavista

I'd like to express my gratitude to whoever put tranquility node. It make sit possibel to use the 30% boosts while running suicides not to mention overcome the heal reversal of sp1 modoks
Next week I all but guarantee some suicides users complaining that nodes always harm suicides lol
Good. Not all content should be geared around them.

Yeah, it is always funny when a champion is 'bad' because they can't handle suicides. They want the boost in attack from the mastery without being penalized.

K00shMaan

For those who used Herc, what was your playstyle?

Basically when I was able to, I'd ramp up charges via ML then dash back, repeat. Outside of that I was mostly hitting into the block to do damage. Once you have enough charges the damage will be pretty good as MODOKs Block Proficiency is pretty bad. If you're health bar is low, be conscious of the Tranquility Timer so that you don't accidentally trigger your immortality and then get it removed immediately.

Ricardo60289

https://youtu.be/kNdzcv9LcH0

AverageDesi

I'd like to express my gratitude to whoever put tranquility node. It make sit possibel to use the 30% boosts while running suicides not to mention overcome the heal reversal of sp1 modoks
Next week I all but guarantee some suicides users complaining that nodes always harm suicides lol

Haha yeah. I've managed to brute force through even bishop while running sides. But had to take it off for warlock to use sym suprmee. Honestly enjoyed using him and spamming specials.

It's always a couple of champs that cause problems. The biggest issue though is not being to use green boosts. Using 30% though was massively helpful and helped solo in my first few tries boosted whereas i was kinda struggling unboosted

AverageDesi

For those who used Herc, what was your playstyle?

Basically play like no power. Intercept all day

FrozenLogan

Anyone try with Gwenpool?

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Shiroihara

I'd like to express my gratitude to whoever put tranquility node. It make sit possibel to use the 30% boosts while running suicides not to mention overcome the heal reversal of sp1 modoks
Next week I all but guarantee some suicides users complaining that nodes always harm suicides lol
Good. Not all content should be geared around them.
Exactly, and not to mention that it shouldn’t be surprising that not being able to use specials without losing 5% health, and putting two DOT debuffs on yourself sometimes turns out to be a bad thing.

Suicides has some great benefits with some champs and some nodes, but they’re a double edged sword (literally lol).

It’s almost like the names suicides, recoil and double edge could mean that what you’re using can harm you 🤔

I don’t think anyone has a problem with the debuffs or losing health on specials. It’s part of the contract you take when using them.
The issue is having content that is clearly geared to remove the edge they provide. And I’m not talking about the occasional healblock. It’s plenty apparent when that’s the case.
If they are going to do that, then let us switch masteries for free. It’s unreasonable to make us pay for something we’ve unlocked.

Fgiorgos13

Cosmic objective with Phoenix

https://youtu.be/id5RRQVYU0o

Disbanded_pens

Hit Monkey with a couple of revives. Can't complain.

K00shMaan

I'd like to express my gratitude to whoever put tranquility node. It make sit possibel to use the 30% boosts while running suicides not to mention overcome the heal reversal of sp1 modoks
Next week I all but guarantee some suicides users complaining that nodes always harm suicides lol
Good. Not all content should be geared around them.
Exactly, and not to mention that it shouldn’t be surprising that not being able to use specials without losing 5% health, and putting two DOT debuffs on yourself sometimes turns out to be a bad thing.

Suicides has some great benefits with some champs and some nodes, but they’re a double edged sword (literally lol).

It’s almost like the names suicides, recoil and double edge could mean that what you’re using can harm you 🤔
I don’t think anyone has a problem with the debuffs or losing health on specials. It’s part of the contract you take when using them.
The issue is having content that is clearly geared to remove the edge they provide. And I’m not talking about the occasional healblock. It’s plenty apparent when that’s the case.
If they are going to do that, then let us switch masteries for free. It’s unreasonable to make us pay for something we’ve unlocked.
Content isn’t geared against suicides. Kabam don’t sit there and think “how can we put nodes in here to screw over suicides users”. Just take a look through node lists and think about how many of them in some way:
- punish you having debuffs
- Punish you having DOT
- Make you use specials often
- Block or reduce healing
- Punish healing

There is no downside to not running suicides, but there aren’t any upsides either. That means no node punishes you for not running suicides. But you don’t get any of suicides benefit. That’s a choice to make.

But equally, the choice you make when you run suicides is that you get positives (attack) but you also have the negatives.

The reason people think suicides are “targeted” is because not running suicides is a neutral. There isn’t ever a situation where someone says “argh this node completely screws over non-suicides users because I *need* a bleed/poison debuff on me”. You only ever get someone coming up against encroaching stun or special delivery and seeing that it makes you use specials, which makes you lose health.

So when you run suicides you notice all these bad situation that arise by chance just by nodes being added, and you assume that it’s geared against you. When in fact, it’s just the developers adding nodes to fights to create a challenge. We can’t, and nor will we ever, avoid anti suicides nodes because suicides is a choice, and the game doesn’t have to conform to your choice unfortunately.

You say it’s plenty apparent when it’s the case that content is geared against suicides, do you have any examples of that? Or proof that it’s specifically geared against suicides other than there just being a node that doesn’t gel with suicides?

There is an obvious downside to not running suicides. Suicides allow you to clear content faster. This means that you are able to accomplish more in the game during the same amount of time which for most people is a relatively fixed variable.

MasterSmoke

Does Hit Monkey need to be duped to KO Modok??

willrun4adonut

Max boosted r5 bwdo (2 revives) and an amazing 9 revives with r5 Herc.

Panchulon21

I used masacre, hit monkey and herc. Herc almost solod. Masacre didn’t go so hot. Hit monkey was a 1 revive.

GinjabredMonsta

Solo with bwdo and 3 small revives with herc

Ercarret

After using Misty Knight for the #mercenary objective, I used Hyperion for the Cosmic one and Elsa for the Raw Damage one.

Elsa was so good, actually. I didn't anticipate that she would be but her evades-on-block gave her very easy openings and her easy access to incinerates shut down Modok's auto-blocking very effectively.

The same was true for Hyperion even if I found Elsa's incinerates to be even more reliable than Hyperion's. However, Hyperion had the added benefit of his heavy attacks giving him fury buffs, which boosted his damage. Given his immense power gain, it was fairly easy to always have a special to throw within the window before you took that massive damage after using a heavy attack.