Is T1a really an issue?

Is it really an issue. I hear folks complain about how it's hard to get and there is a shortage...Well, how about this? Don't upgrade that 4* champ that you never play anyways.

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DoctorJ

^wont work for resources, claims he cant get them. Classic.

JamesM

Coat you must like to argue, how do you keep it up. It can't be that big of an issue to convince others that their isn't an issue. It really does seem like you have an agenda with the ferocity that you are maintaining this argument.

JamesM

I have said before, this isn't a new issue. It has been a lingering thing for a while. The glory store was a step in the right direction but more needs to be done to be in Pace with higher tier resources. The frustration that is leaking out that seems overblown is because it has been pent up.

CoatHang3r

DoctorJ wrote: »

^wont work for resources, claims he cant get them. Classic.

Even worse than that, he can’t do the alpha arena which is like 25 rounds over 2 days.

@CloserByTomorrow yes way too much time on my hands. But I’m in the forums cause valor burnt me out.

GroundedWisdom

CloserByTomorrow wrote: »

CoatHang3r wrote: »

CloserByTomorrow wrote: »

CoatHang3r wrote: »

CloserByTomorrow wrote: »

Speeds80 wrote: »

DNA yes I will admit somewhat wasted r2 5*s before I realised my alpha imbalance. when I had alphas spare they went on r2ing 5* champs while i worked on t4cs etc to make t4b and alpha arena quicker (they enter the infinity streak from fight 15) (I'm not in a t4c alliance I feel more sorry for them), the problem is my last 4 5*s were all decent, it's what really made this an issue for me, I'll be happy to sit on r1s of rubbish champs in the future, but I would also point out that r2ing a 5* champ being such a rankup hurdle is illogical, it's not like too many r2s will imbalance the game in any way, so
Why set The choke point so low

Yea not me. Since my first ever 5* if I’m not going to rank it to 4 or use it frequently as an r3 then it gets leveled and stays at 1. Been that way for three years. But now it’s different. Bc my unawakened 5* gwenpool has higher face pi at r3 then my level 99 r5 4*. And face pi is what counts in aw towards defender rating so guess what? Now that changes. 5* are now needed more. And rightfully so. They’re coming into the game
More. SO THE MATERIALS NEEDED TO RANK THEM SHOULD BE COMING IN MORE AS WELL. Simple as that. Game progresses, rewards should progress with it. But they’re leaving alphas behind as if they’re not required anymkre

Not so ridiculous is it now @CoatHang3r maybe you should think a little bit before you spew out hundreds of non sense posts trying to prove your point.

You almost made it through an entire post without including the bile.

You can r3 2 defense 5s a month if that’s your focus, you telling me you can pull more than two defense 5s a month and that no one else can? Your competition is in the same boat guy.

#muhalphashortage
#moart2aformyIF

Where am I getting 20 alphas a month without constantly buying them from the glory store

This month
EQ-6
Arena-3
3 days-10
Buy one with glory enjoy your Hyperion.

Glory is meant for you to use on what you need, if you want to prioritize something other than rank up materials that’s on you but it sounds like you need t1a to meet your goals.

Don’t have time to do arena, event quests only give 4. And I do use my glory on a rank up material. The rarest one. Not the one that players that just started are using to r3 their top champ.

3 for Master. 1 for normal. 1 for Heroic. That's 5. Plus they drop from Greater Solo Crystals, and randomly from Free-For-All. Frags are in Map 3 Crystals, and Glory can be used for them. As for the Arena, if you don't have time, that's not a valid argument for a shortage. Which is the point that most of us are trying to make. If you're not taking advantage of all the ways they're available, it's not feasible to claim they're scarce.

DNA3000

CloserByTomorrow wrote: »

Why should we use the glory to purchase anything other then the rarest item in the store?

When glory was added to AQ it specifically and explicitly replaced the other resources we were getting like Map 3-4-5 crystals, catalysts, and potions. The intent of glory was to give players more flexibility in choosing which rewards they wanted, but glory replaces a basket of different rewards we got in season three. The presumption was that if you needed those rewards you would still buy them, and if you didn't then you could use the glory elsewhere.

The intent was not for glory to be used to buy the rarest things, but rather the things you needed the most to address your own needs more specifically rather than the game handing everyone the same rewards.

It takes 775 Glory per AQ week to buy two T1Alpha cats, and that's approximately eight per month (eight per 32 days). I think that is a reasonable amount of glory to spend for any alliance in the expert tier, since you're going to be getting over 2000 glory per AQ week in the expert tier. For most expert tier alliances it is about one third of their glory or less. Also, given cost escalation that 775 glory isn't radically reducing the amount of T2A fragments you can buy since the third one costs so much more than the first two. It takes 2400 glory to buy 3600 T2A fragments (buying 1800 twice). Attempting to buy the third (and last available) package costs 2200 glory all by itself.

Eight is not a lot, but for many players that can double the amount of T1As they are otherwise getting and it is a significant amount relative to rank up costs.

For many expert tier alliances the cost of the t1alpha cats would only reduce their t2a buying power by one additional fragment deal every few weeks. Others might be reduced to sometimes buying one and sometimes two as glory accumulates. These appear to be reasonable resource shifts to me, given the intent of glory as it was originally designed.

CoatHang3r

JamesM wrote: »

Coat you must like to argue, how do you keep it up. It can't be that big of an issue to convince others that their isn't an issue. It really does seem like you have an agenda with the ferocity that you are maintaining this argument.

Just trying to match the passion of others with reason.

xNig

CloserByTomorrow wrote: »

CapWW2 wrote: »

CloserByTomorrow wrote: »

xNig wrote: »

CloserByTomorrow wrote: »

xNig wrote: »

5x 5R4
21x 4R5
4x 5R3
10x 4R4
7x 5R2

Not having T1A shortages.

Your listing that like you have a lot of 5*s ranked

Yes I do.

Happy?

Sheesh guys just learn to manage your resources better.

Bro you have 10 5*s at r1. You don’t have a lot ranked. Almost 2/3 if your 5* are below r3, half at r1. Piss off

People open 5 star for feature or pop open 5 and they want to rank 3 all they get right away. 😂 It took me 5 to 8 months to rank 3 15 of my 5 stars. So I expect every one to be able to rank 5 stars but as its due time. It is just nonsense to moan about T1A when you can easily get 20 every MONTH.

Lets hear the complaints about Gold too once you need more than a million to max a 5 star. HAPPY GRINDING 😊

Use your glory to buy T1A. Dont be cheap or try to exploit the game.

I’m sorry what? Where am I getting 20 alphas a month? And it’s already been said, it’s ridiculous to have to use your glory to buy t1 alphas. It should be common enough that you don’t have to. My ally hits every milestone every time so that’s 4 in 12 days. 4 from event quests that’s 8. Glory needs to be used for t2a frags. Why should we use the glory to purchase anything other then the rarest item in the store? In a pinch, sure. But to have to use all my glory in order to be able to rank my 5* hyperion before the cosmic t4c expires is ridiculous dude. If you can’t get behind that then your just an idiot troll. Piss off

What DNA said. Glory was introduced so we can buy what we need. If you need T1As, buy them. If you spend all of them on T2A, then duh... Of course you'll have to sacrifice something else. So instead of complaining that there is not enough T1A when you CHOSE to spend your Glory on something else.

Oh.. And you said your ally hits every milestone everytime? I checked your profile up and yes, you have 3 5* R4s but you're not in an ally.

xNig

Speeds80 wrote: »

thats the right attitude xnig,

Change your attitude a little and spread positivity in your alliance to get them out of the rut.

Wil6541

@CoatHang3r your math of 28 is awesome for top 20 how about 1k aq ranked alliances in same boat. I can't open map 5 or higher Crystals no t4cc crystals because I need to rank my champs. Alot of alliances in that bracket don't arena much so perfect series and arena event is out. Unless you can find more time in the day for these guys. Reasonably with the glory they get your getting 3 t1a an aq cycle. 5 for monthly quests and 1 for completion and item use and 1 from t1a arena. To use the t4c I have I need 100 t1, 5 a lvl X 10 champs. Then I can open my aq crystals again. Yeah so in 4 months my champs are up but what happens when you know life gets in the way and you can't do that t1a arena. Or god forbid you wanna get t2a frags because to go up in prestige you need more r4 5. The rate you acquire frags number 1 priority should be those and so that greatly eats the glory you can use for t1a. T1a can drop to as low as one pending the week. So that's 10 a month lost that added in my original 4 months to work out to just 10 months before I can open aq crystals again and start all over again.

DNA3000

Wil6541 wrote: »

@CoatHang3r your math of 28 is awesome for top 20 how about 1k aq ranked alliances in same boat. I can't open map 5 or higher Crystals no t4cc crystals because I need to rank my champs. Alot of alliances in that bracket don't arena much so perfect series and arena event is out. Unless you can find more time in the day for these guys. Reasonably with the glory they get your getting 3 t1a an aq cycle. 5 for monthly quests and 1 for completion and item use and 1 from t1a arena. To use the t4c I have I need 100 t1, 5 a lvl X 10 champs. Then I can open my aq crystals again. Yeah so in 4 months my champs are up but what happens when you know life gets in the way and you can't do that t1a arena. Or god forbid you wanna get t2a frags because to go up in prestige you need more r4 5. The rate you acquire frags number 1 priority should be those and so that greatly eats the glory you can use for t1a. T1a can drop to as low as one pending the week. So that's 10 a month lost that added in my original 4 months to work out to just 10 months before I can open aq crystals again and start all over again.

You are comparing earning rate to backlog, but that's not a fair comparison in my opinion. That backlog likely took months to accumulate. If you could wipe out your backlog in a month, that would imply T1A was massively available, capable of swamping months of T4CC accumulation in a single month. The best you can hope for is for the earning rate of T1A to roughly match the rate at which you are earning T4B and T4CC.

Separately, while it is always possible that players will be unable to utilize the availability options for T1A or any resource, that has to be looked at in context. If it is necessary to address top tier players unable to earn T1A because they can't run arena, then it is just as necessary to allow lower tier alliance players to earn as much T4CC as they need to rank up even if they cannot move up to higher tiers of AQ.

As to the issue of T2A and glory, I posted numbers above that suggest that there are reasonable compromises you can make to buy T2A and also T1A with the glory you're likely to get. In fact if you are top 1000 you should be getting at least 900 glory for rank rewards and at least 1550 (you're probably reaching milestone 9 to get to top 1000) for milestones for a total of at least 2450 glory. That's enough to buy two T1A per week plus 1800 T2A fragments for 1775 glory. With 675+ glory remaining you will something close to enough to buy the second 1800 fragment package every other week (you would need just 25 glory more, but these numbers are the minimum for a top 1000 alliance and most top 1000 alliances of course get more than this).

Run477

Imran wrote: »

my t1 alpha keep expiring for not having a good 5★ to rank up. And this guys have shortage of t1 alpha!! pathetic. Give me a good 5★ damm kabam.

What level are level are you? The people complaining about not having t1as have been playing for quite awhile and have t4ccs out the ying yang.

Wil6541

@DNA3000 I'm not comparing back log. I have already r3 or higher 16 5* champs. But let's look at this and say you do this month 5.4 100% master, hero and uncollected, and the 2* arena. That is 4 or 5 new 5*. Let's say you don't have t4c to get them just to r2 is 20 to 25 alphas with 13 a month tops if your not in an alliance to get t4c. But in my situation I could r3 them all I wouldn't have the gold but that's OK I would need 40 to 50 alpha right now. Forget about the 5 I have still at r1 and the 4 I'm not taking above r2 because of the alpha. Instead of adding t1a just lower this not needed higher cost. How is the game in any way correct that I am progressing faster being on break and in a small map 3 alliance. It doesn't add up. Once 6* are added and you shift to 5* as they are becoming more available this problem will come with it for you. Kabam wants us to rank for diversity and defender rating so 5 are what you need but stuck because of basic resources.

GroundedWisdom

Run477 wrote: »

Imran wrote: »

my t1 alpha keep expiring for not having a good 5★ to rank up. And this guys have shortage of t1 alpha!! pathetic. Give me a good 5★ damm kabam.

What level are level are you? The people complaining about not having t1as have been playing for quite awhile and have t4ccs out the ying yang.

That's one of the problems. Focusing on Maps 5 and 6 only and the Prestige Race, combined with selective Ranking, has led to an abundance of T4CC. Which is totally up to them. However, whenever you have an abundance of one Resource, you will have a deficit of others.

CoatHang3r

Y’all didn’t waste t4b and t1a on LC AM IP KK groot etc as 4* why are you suddenly willing to do that as 5* when they cost more of those materials you weren’t willing to spend on them before? Were you ranking 4* champions you didn’t use past r3 just for the sake of ranking them?

Just quit with the if I open 5 crystals I suddenly need x t1a so I can use them on my LC IP etc.

Wil6541

@CoatHang3r out of these that are r3 or higher who didn't deserve the t1a. Duped sl, stark, juggs, bp, ronan, psy, if, electra, hawkeye, unduped hulk, mordo, quake? And I'm assuming my t1a is being used badly with those and how dare I want more for ice aa gp. Or god forbid I need my ant or pat for diversity.

Also doesn't cost more t4b and t4c just basic t1a and I'm assuming you didn't r3 those weirdo 3 for arena.

CoatHang3r

You seem to be under the impression that you'll be pulling these champions back to back and in such number that you’ll be short. You won’t be ranking AM or IP for diversity as you also need to factor defender rating as well and countless 4s are greater in defender rating while still providing diversity. Your slippery slope fails.

Certainly not past 3. And 1 alpha is still used for any 4* I acquire. 1 alpha not 2t4b and 5 alpha. And that r1 5* is the power equivalent of a 3/30 so you are still ahead 1 alpha.

Wil6541

Defender rating for a r3 5 is greater than a 5/50. I'll compare my sl (only duped r3 and 5/50 I have both of and it is my mastery so no influence) my 43 duped 5 sl has a pi of 5881 my 78 duped 4 sl has a pi of 5499. That is nearly 400 difference plus more attack and health so potential of more damage. With 100 to 100 Wars those points are priceless.

GroundedWisdom

Well, yes. The Base Stats of a 5* are slightly higher. Depending on the Sig Level, Champ, and Masteries, that can be a larger variant.

CoatHang3r

Wil6541 wrote: »

Defender rating for a r3 5 is greater than a 5/50. I'll compare my sl (only duped r3 and 5/50 I have both of and it is my mastery so no influence) my 43 duped 5 sl has a pi of 5881 my 78 duped 4 sl has a pi of 5499. That is nearly 400 difference plus more attack and health so potential of more damage. With 100 to 100 Wars those points are priceless.

Cool story now are you going to replace your 4* quake with that 5* SL? And do you think you will miraculously pull multiple duped replacements for AWD within a week? Now what dictates you have to rank them that day and cannot wait the two weeks? Your opponents are in the same boat. Slippery slope is slippery.

Wil6541

@CoatHang3r you have absolutely no idea on anything. I used sl as a pi difference only. The fact is a dupe 5 has more points for defender rating, has more health and attack to make the fights longer and your potential to die greater. Would you place your 4* quake over that 5* mordo you got? I can make useless comments as well mate.

CoatHang3r

Wil6541 wrote: »

@CoatHang3r you have absolutely no idea on anything. I used sl as a pi difference only. The fact is a dupe 5 has more points for defender rating, has more health and attack to make the fights longer and your potential to die greater. Would you place your 4* quake over that 5* mordo you got? I can make useless comments as well mate.

You miss the point. The only factor in diversity is PI. If the Mordo has a greater PI I certainly would. That Mordo would need to be duped to beat the rating of my quake. However your SL wouldn’t beat the 4* quake so her spot on defense would be secure.

CoatHang3r

You are trying to set up a highly unlikely scenario to support the argument. And all this assumes you have an IP or ant man currently in defense for diversity purposes or have 4* defenders that would be of such a lesser value that ranking up that ant man or IP would warrant the use of resources over a 4* who could easily have better PI. Also you would need these antmen and IP to flood your crsytal pulls at a rate you couldn’t keep up with the materials need to rank them. It’s just unfathomably unrealistic it hurts my brain.

You would need to pull and dupe your existing defenders in a period of time faster than you can plan for the resources. While that can happen your opponents are still in the same boat if it does happen so you are not at a loss while you gather the resources. If you wanted to account for that scenario it is simply accounted for by having the materials for such an occurrence in hand.

It’s just. A ridiculous scenario you are setting up here. But I’m entertaining the brain teaser of the kettle logic.

Wil6541

It is not a ridiculous scenario. I place 5 r3 or greater duped 5 if using my pi difference is average of all. 400 points times 5 equals 2000 more points. Now whole alliance does that 2000 times 30 equals 60000 more points than your alliance with the same 5/50 defense. Gotta understand the game if you wanna win and defender rating is what wins.

CoatHang3r

Wil6541 wrote: »

It is not a ridiculous scenario. I place 5 r3 or greater duped 5 if using my pi difference is average of all. 400 points times 5 equals 2000 more points. Now whole alliance does that 2000 times 30 equals 60000 more points than your alliance with the same 5/50 defense. Gotta understand the game if you wanna win and defender rating is what wins.

Then I’ll leave you with with this.

If want to use them for defense go right ahead, you are on equal footing with the competition in that race so you do not lose out, there is no pressing needed rank them beyond the pace set by the game. You’ll have antman and IP on defense which I guess you already do if you’re looking to upgrade them as replacements for diversity. Really wondering what your defense looks like if a r3 antman or IP are going to be better options than your current roster though.

CoatHang3r wrote: »

Y’all didn’t waste t4b and t1a on LC AM IP KK groot etc as 4* why are you suddenly willing to do that as 5* when they cost more of those materials you weren’t willing to spend on them before? Were you ranking 4* champions you didn’t use past r3 just for the sake of ranking them?

Just quit with the if I open 5 crystals I suddenly need x t1a so I can use them on my LC IP etc.

Wil6541

My defense did include a r3 ant and IP they have been replaced. I now place r4 juggs r3 Magik mordo psy and Electra. Once I go back to a bigger alliance it will depend on what they need for diversity. Probably have to place my r4 stark ronan bp juggs and a random that fits in. Possible none of mine fit in new alliance so I need to get some other r3 5 as soon as possible to get rid of the 4*

CoatHang3r

And why did I even entertain you might be ranking AM or IP with a roster of 12 r3s.

Dave_the_destroyer

so basically people CHOOSE not to spent Glory on these, then complain they dont have enough of them because they CHOSE to not buy them? Kabam, you are just so so so so bad

Speeds80

I'm gonna narrow it down again. We are all playing the game and ranking with the resources available, the fact we are asking for more t1as or a lowering of 5* costs is not because we are doing something wrong, this is not a blame game about don't rank 5*s to r2, im saying we are doing what we can with what we are given, I rank according to my resources and spend glory on what I need for the next ranks, but at this stage in the game it would make more sense for me to be buying t2as than t1as. And it would be nice if we didn't have to worry about such low level rankings (r3 4* and r2 5*)and treat them as so precious because of the alpha situation. I haven't ranked any of my last 5 4*s to even rank 3. Because I have to plan ahead for the multiple 5*s I will be opening this month. It's detracting from the fun game we should be enjoying. I can't get past the fact that what we are being given doesn't make logical sense, when we progress to map 5s logically we are at a stage of the game where we have more 5*s yet instead of an increase in the resource most needed for them in balance with the other rewards. we actually have access to less alphas for some reason(maybe same amount as map 3 runners but certainly not in balance with the increase in other rewards, again it's a balance issue, my alliance is running mostly map 3s this month because that's a better way for us to progress for less effort and zero loyalty costs. And again that's illogical to me, I get dnas maths that if we ran all map 5s we would earn more glory so probably would work out about the same if we bought the alphas with the extra glory, but what's the point of doing the map 5 if I don't need the extra rewards it offers. Does kabam really want to be pushing players toward map 3s? Again illogical to me

GroundedWisdom

Playing Map 3 won't yield enough regardless. On average, you get 150 Frags. That's not going to suffice. You have to use Glory on them if you need them.