Alliance War Compensation [merged]

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  • Roronoazoro99Roronoazoro99 Member Posts: 15
    as long as we're talking about BGs, when is this bug gonna get addressed?
  • AnıyaşaAnıyaşa Member Posts: 22
    Just 1 boost of each? I have lost atleast 10 boosts of 20% green and 15% attack boost due to the issues with war. I feel 5 of each would have been great.
  • MrSakuragiMrSakuragi Member Posts: 4,890 ★★★★★

    as long as we're talking about BGs, when is this bug gonna get addressed?

    What bug is that?
  • Roronoazoro99Roronoazoro99 Member Posts: 15

    as long as we're talking about BGs, when is this bug gonna get addressed?

    What bug is that?
    there's supposed to be 4 objectives refreshing every 48 hours, I mostly get two or one.
  • Kappa2gKappa2g Member Posts: 278 ★★★

    The goal with this Comp was for the Keys to come out much earlier, giving players something to do while AW was down. I'm not sure why it's only going out now, but here we are.

    I wonder why indeed.. maybe like there’s a supposed limited time challenging content coming in 5 days that may require consumable use?

  • World EaterWorld Eater Member Posts: 3,697 ★★★★★

    as long as we're talking about BGs, when is this bug gonna get addressed?

    What bug is that?
    there's supposed to be 4 objectives refreshing every 48 hours, I mostly get two or one.
    You’re supposed to start with 2. Then you get an additional objective for 2 wins when you reach silver and another for 3 wins when you reach gold.
    Except 4 objectives have been sent out to players not in silver , including me.
  • DUHveedDUHveed Member Posts: 356 ★★★
    Kappa2g said:

    The goal with this Comp was for the Keys to come out much earlier, giving players something to do while AW was down. I'm not sure why it's only going out now, but here we are.

    I wonder why indeed.. maybe like there’s a supposed limited time challenging content coming in 5 days that may require consumable use?

    Call me a bit of a Kabam white knight but that sounds too tinfoil hat to be true. Mike’s original message made it sound like this was a curveball even for him.

  • DUHveedDUHveed Member Posts: 356 ★★★
    Thanks for the prompt response Miike.
  • ahmynutsahmynuts Member Posts: 7,254 ★★★★★
    DUHveed said:

    Kappa2g said:

    The goal with this Comp was for the Keys to come out much earlier, giving players something to do while AW was down. I'm not sure why it's only going out now, but here we are.

    I wonder why indeed.. maybe like there’s a supposed limited time challenging content coming in 5 days that may require consumable use?

    Call me a bit of a Kabam white knight but that sounds too tinfoil hat to be true. Mike’s original message made it sound like this was a curveball even for him.

    I don't think it's white knighting to say it was a curveball for Miike. He's the community manager of the forums, he doesn't work directly on the game. He probably gets the emails containing the information like 5 minutes before he gives it to us here.
  • BelgarionBelgarion Member Posts: 9
    good evening, what the players find ridiculous is quite simply that 95% of the players (maybe less, maybe more but in any case a large majority) will absolutely not be able to use the interesting compensations from you while all the players can participate in wars and have rewards at their level. could say that you gave the rewards in bg … yes for a month of missing war and not for 2 and it took a lot of time and also a lot of resources to reach the 400,000 points needed. much more than the resource time needed for the season of war. I confirm the opinion of many. outdated and disappointing compensation. giving nothing wouldn't have been worse. maybe even less "shocking". Have a good evening.
  • MrSakuragiMrSakuragi Member Posts: 4,890 ★★★★★

    as long as we're talking about BGs, when is this bug gonna get addressed?

    What bug is that?
    there's supposed to be 4 objectives refreshing every 48 hours, I mostly get two or one.
    You’re supposed to start with 2. Then you get an additional objective for 2 wins when you reach silver and another for 3 wins when you reach gold.
    Except 4 objectives have been sent out to players not in silver , including me.
    Do you still have them? They were originally sent out to me as well when the season launched early, then removed when I was placed back into bronze.
  • Panchulon21Panchulon21 Member Posts: 2,605 ★★★★★
    Crazy lol. Let me be nice about it so that I actually get a response.

    The new potions comp is cool, I’ll take that appreciate it.

    The problem with the keys is that, you gave us something to do that a lot of folks haven’t done (I did it before and cleared it but don’t want to do it again). For the folks who won’t touch gauntlet because their roster is ready for it, their skills aren’t there or the time (my case I can’t play as much as I used to). This means that they can only take advantage of 2/3 of the comp and a large portion of it. Maybe create a store which allows folks to trade in those keys for half of the package of clearing it? Or hell even like 40% would help those folks, sending out something like that will just demotivate folks. I will also say most people won’t agree with my solution but at least it would help mitigate it with folks who are more accepting than others.

    My two cents.
  • HungaryHippoHungaryHippo Member Posts: 897 ★★★★

    Crazy lol. Let me be nice about it so that I actually get a response.

    The new potions comp is cool, I’ll take that appreciate it.

    The problem with the keys is that, you gave us something to do that a lot of folks haven’t done (I did it before and cleared it but don’t want to do it again). For the folks who won’t touch gauntlet because their roster is ready for it, their skills aren’t there or the time (my case I can’t play as much as I used to). This means that they can only take advantage of 2/3 of the comp and a large portion of it. Maybe create a store which allows folks to trade in those keys for half of the package of clearing it? Or hell even like 40% would help those folks, sending out something like that will just demotivate folks. I will also say most people won’t agree with my solution but at least it would help mitigate it with folks who are more accepting than others.

    My two cents.

    Then just pretend you didn’t receive that package? People seem upset that they didn’t get awards they didn’t earn.
  • BeeweeBeewee Member Posts: 551 ★★★★
    Easily the most painful comp given. Rather than direct rewards we have to run content for the rewards when theres now finally content to do. Gauntlet rewards are also now outdated this just feels like a swift kick to the nuts
  • Dirty_DozzDirty_Dozz Member Posts: 451 ★★★

    So, we are complaining about getting access to permanent content (or even more if you haven't done any/some of it) when we would have had to AW to get resources that we think we should be compensated for the delays of the season starting. Am I getting this right?

    Sort of. The issue is that 1: GG is still fairly difficult. Running through it twice would cost way more than the 5 Revives that were given. 2: This compensation was given to EVERYBODY, even people who can't even do GG yet. So, those people literally got 5 Revives and 300k loyalty, and are missing out on all the other mats they could've got.

    Compensation that only some people can use is ridiculous, and compensation that is only useful if you slog through difficult content is almost worse. That's like saying "You will receive your compensation if you complete both paths of EoP".
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 21,785 ★★★★★

    I can just laugh at Kabam think tank.

    They should learn what does compensation term mean...

    I truly don't think you know what compensation means.
  • Go_ToGo_To Member Posts: 317 ★★★

    I can just laugh at Kabam think tank.

    They should learn what does compensation term mean...

    I truly don't think you know what compensation means.
    Maybe not but we know that it doesn’t mean “giving” players access to endgame content. That’s not compensation that’s a chore.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 21,785 ★★★★★

    Ok, so here's our solution:

    We're going to do a secondary Comp package coming out soon. This will contain:

    Alliance War Health Potions, and Alliance War Team Health potions (Level 5! Those are rare), 2x of each of the 3 Main boosts, and 1 of each Greater 6-Hour Boost.

    We wanted to get this out as soon as possible, so we had to do something "generic" that couldn't be specific to any Alliance, progression level, etc.

    I want to thank everybody that gave us constructive feedback on this topic.

    So instead of Plat 4 rewards, we are to use a key to spend more resources they have monetized. The only thing keeping me playing is my alliance despite Kabam. Plat 4 rewards vs this garbage Hmmmm
    I keep seeing people asking for last seasons rewards for compensation. You didn't miss last season and you haven't missed this season. Having a season delayed isn't the same as missing am entire season. Compensation is to try and replace what was missed.

    On top of that, you've had people change alliances and once people like you find out a plat 4 player who moved a plat 1 or masters alliance got better rewards than last season and you didn't, you'll be here posting about how unfair that is. But you didn't miss the current season, it just hasn't happened yet.

    The only case you have for crystal shards and gold is the victory/loss rewards from the missed off season wars.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 21,785 ★★★★★
    Go_To said:

    I can just laugh at Kabam think tank.

    They should learn what does compensation term mean...

    I truly don't think you know what compensation means.
    Maybe not but we know that it doesn’t mean “giving” players access to endgame content. That’s not compensation that’s a chore.
    He already explained why those were sent out. I'm reality, we were only supposed to get the loyalty today and not the keys and revives.

    Those were supposed to be sent out earlier to make up for lack of content.
  • laserjohn26laserjohn26 Member Posts: 1,531 ★★★★★

    Crazy lol. Let me be nice about it so that I actually get a response.

    The new potions comp is cool, I’ll take that appreciate it.

    The problem with the keys is that, you gave us something to do that a lot of folks haven’t done (I did it before and cleared it but don’t want to do it again). For the folks who won’t touch gauntlet because their roster is ready for it, their skills aren’t there or the time (my case I can’t play as much as I used to). This means that they can only take advantage of 2/3 of the comp and a large portion of it. Maybe create a store which allows folks to trade in those keys for half of the package of clearing it? Or hell even like 40% would help those folks, sending out something like that will just demotivate folks. I will also say most people won’t agree with my solution but at least it would help mitigate it with folks who are more accepting than others.

    My two cents.

    if that's the case those people are playing bronze war, maybe silver, And at most missed out on 100k loyalty. They got 3 times that. If they never use the keys they are still way far ahead.

  • Taiphoon_zeroTaiphoon_zero Member Posts: 110
    The keys shouldn't even be included in any type of compensation. What does the word compensate stand for: something, typically money(in our case rewards), awarded to someone as a recompense for loss"

    If u look at the keys what loss are they compensated? The keys to the Gauntlet is the same if Kabam would create a new sidequest and u need to complete it to obtain the rewards. Just giving access doesn't mean u get compensated if u have to do the work to get those rewards.
  • World EaterWorld Eater Member Posts: 3,697 ★★★★★

    as long as we're talking about BGs, when is this bug gonna get addressed?

    What bug is that?
    there's supposed to be 4 objectives refreshing every 48 hours, I mostly get two or one.
    You’re supposed to start with 2. Then you get an additional objective for 2 wins when you reach silver and another for 3 wins when you reach gold.
    Except 4 objectives have been sent out to players not in silver , including me.
    Do you still have them? They were originally sent out to me as well when the season launched early, then removed when I was placed back into bronze.
    Sorry to derail the thread but I honestly don’t know. Maybe 2 were removed. I saw someone else mention that or maybe it was you?
    I only did 2 matches before the objectives refreshed today.








  • KRACETOSKRACETOS Member Posts: 76

    Hey, I know there are people that are rightfully upset, but I'm going to try and explain the thought process here. You might disagree with it, but this is the situation.

    The goal with this Comp was for the Keys to come out much earlier, giving players something to do while AW was down. I'm not sure why it's only going out now, but here we are.

    Loyalty was the central part of this compensation, making up for most of a lot of what was lost in the unplanned downtime, not for the entire downtime, since we purposely moved those rewards into BGs and told everybody about it in advance.

    I know that when we say "compensation", people set their own standards in their heads, and often look at older compensations that we've done as a benchmark, when every situation needs to be treated differently.

    If there is CONSTRUCTIVE feedback on what you think you should have been included, please let us know and we can discuss with the game team about it. No guarantees that anything comes of it, but we'll have those discussions.

    If you're not going to be constructive though, we're going to ignore you.

    Howdy @Kabam Miike

    I may be beating a dead horse here but I seems a lot of folks didn't like the keys thing. Personally free stuff is free stuff and I'm grateful for all the work kabam does to try to meet the community in the middle and acknowledge our frustrations.

    Perhaps one final consideration (as I've seen numerous sentiments from folks that intend to never enter the gauntlet for whatever reason) is add something to the featured or miscellaneous store that people can exchange their keys for. Maybe a significantly reduced version of the gauntlet chests or a selector of some kind, be it shards, fragments, stones, etc where players can decide what compensation works best for their goals, acknowledging that it is far less rewards than doing a gauntlet run as it requires no effort.

    Personally I'd love to see some 2* collector crystals or 2* nexus, not to undermine my credibility here but I love me some collection haha. I'd gladly trade my 7* roster or all the loyalty I have in exchange for rare 2*s that I dont own. Anyway, aside from this last bit i hope this is constructive.

    - KRACETOS
  • RichardsonRaiderRichardsonRaider Member Posts: 1
    It's amazing how some people here take @Kabam Miike at his word. Guranteed the keys were offered up because this would be a revenue positive move not as a kind gesture to the player base. This is true whether they went out earlier or today.
  • DarkestDestroyerDarkestDestroyer Member Posts: 2,883 ★★★★★
    The gauntlet takes hardly any revives and is quite straightforward, people saying it’s 2 years outdated etc, well you’ve got a much better roster than 2 years ago.

    I’m happy I can run it again twice, it doesn’t take long, Herc smashes 95% of it, even a 5* with boosts on.

    I can’t see anything wrong with this compensation, especially when you look at what we had for the rewards and milestones last BG season.

    Be grateful. Compensation wasn’t even needed, that word gets thrown around far too easy these days.
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