Developers in BG?

TSan · August 2023

Guys from Kabam, how can you comment on this? If this is really a developer, then what is he doing in the Fields? I mean, why should regular players compete with accounts that potentially have all the characters and unlimited resources? In all the games I've played before, the developer accounts were technical and never went to war against the players. If you write that he developed an account like an ordinary player, then, guys, what guarantees are there that this is so? Or that one day you just won't upload to it the characters that it lacks?

SpideyFunko · August 2023

he doesn’t have unlimited resources- he’s got access to the same stuff everyone else does he just also happens to work at kabam

it’s not like a dev test account or anything, it’s a normal in game account that just so happens to be manned by ana mcoc dev

TSan · August 2023

SpideyFunko said:
he doesn’t have unlimited resources- he’s got access to the same stuff everyone else does he just also happens to work at kabam

it’s not like a dev test account or anything, it’s a normal in game account that just so happens to be manned by ana mcoc dev

Why was it necessary to introduce this title into the game? To set yourself apart as a separate caste? To stir up people again? What guarantees do I have that all the achievements of his account are completed without manipulation? What guarantees do I have that the extra 1-2-10... million points in BG were scored by his alliance himself, and not because it was this "developer" who endlessly spent marks?

JustWantTheRewards · August 2023

TSan said:

SpideyFunko said:
he doesn’t have unlimited resources- he’s got access to the same stuff everyone else does he just also happens to work at kabam

it’s not like a dev test account or anything, it’s a normal in game account that just so happens to be manned by ana mcoc dev
Why was it necessary to introduce this title into the game? To set yourself apart as a separate caste? To stir up people again? What guarantees do I have that all the achievements of his account are completed without manipulation? What guarantees do I have that the extra 1-2-10... million points in BG were scored by his alliance himself, and not because it was this "developer" who endlessly spent marks?

You don't have any guarantees. It's just common sense. Most people enjoy seeing the title and knowing how the devs fit into the community. It's better for everyone to have devs who enjoy playing the game and competing on the same levels as us. There's no point wasting your time questioning the legitimacy of it. They worked to build their account the same way you did. Unless you have proof otherwise, I don't see the issue. I think it's pretty cool.

Marvelfan30 · August 2023

Ay kabam nah. I talked to him the other day he was is global It was awesome

AverageDesi · August 2023

TSan said:

SpideyFunko said:
he doesn’t have unlimited resources- he’s got access to the same stuff everyone else does he just also happens to work at kabam

it’s not like a dev test account or anything, it’s a normal in game account that just so happens to be manned by ana mcoc dev
Why was it necessary to introduce this title into the game? To set yourself apart as a separate caste? To stir up people again? What guarantees do I have that all the achievements of his account are completed without manipulation? What guarantees do I have that the extra 1-2-10... million points in BG were scored by his alliance himself, and not because it was this "developer" who endlessly spent marks?

The same guarantee you have that the any person you would regularly fight does not have these things either

TSan · August 2023

Any others should be blocked by Kabam. But they will hardly block their accounts. Once again - there should be no game developers in game modes against regular players. Conflict of interest. You work - okay, work. If you want to play, make a regular account and play in silence, and do not hang a flag on it, "look at everything, I'm a developer, hypothetically I can do whatever I want, and you - settle down and don't ask questions." It's stupid. Another argument in favor of ending this circus. The game degrades.

ahmynuts · August 2023

We actually do know that no Kabam employee gets anything for free outside of test environments. There are many that play the game even publicly. For example, DLL. He is a champ designer and has designed 3 of the best champs this past year. If anyone would have special treatment (it doesn't exist) it would be him.

Let them enjoy the game they work on in their free time on their own personal accounts if they want to. They have just as much right to play as we do. Should we ban everyone in the CCP too? What about @Karatemike415 ? he does the deep dives.

Let's ban Beroman and MSD from the Battlegrounds tournament too. They may be some of the best players in the game but they have a youtube channel so it's a conflict of interest. Stupid

AverageDesi · August 2023

TSan said:
Any others should be blocked by Kabam. But they will hardly block their accounts. Once again - there should be no game developers in game modes against regular players. Conflict of interest. You work - okay, work. If you want to play, make a regular account and play in silence, and do not hang a flag on it, "look at everything, I'm a developer, hypothetically I can do whatever I want, and you - settle down and don't ask questions." It's stupid. Another argument in favor of ending this circus. The game degrades.

Bro you won the match.

Go_To · August 2023

people will complain about everything... Let the devs enjoy the game like us. What's so wrong with that if they aren't getting special treatment?
I think it's a good sign that the devs not only play but have stacked accounts. It means they actually appreciate the game and will do what's best for it unlike what some people believe.

Samanun · August 2023

So let me get this straight, you think the devs are modding?

TSan said:

SpideyFunko said:
he doesn’t have unlimited resources- he’s got access to the same stuff everyone else does he just also happens to work at kabam

it’s not like a dev test account or anything, it’s a normal in game account that just so happens to be manned by ana mcoc dev
Why was it necessary to introduce this title into the game? To set yourself apart as a separate caste? To stir up people again? What guarantees do I have that all the achievements of his account are completed without manipulation? What guarantees do I have that the extra 1-2-10... million points in BG were scored by his alliance himself, and not because it was this "developer" who endlessly spent marks?

Did you think the devs couldnt play their own game?

What guarantee do you have that anyone other players account achievements are completed without manipulation? everyone has access to mods yet out of everyone you think a dev could be modding

No adding the title was not necesarry its just a cool little thing nothing to rile yourself up about

Rugbyman371 · August 2023

TSan said:
Any others should be blocked by Kabam. But they will hardly block their accounts. Once again - there should be no game developers in game modes against regular players. Conflict of interest. You work - okay, work. If you want to play, make a regular account and play in silence, and do not hang a flag on it, "look at everything, I'm a developer, hypothetically I can do whatever I want, and you - settle down and don't ask questions." It's stupid. Another argument in favor of ending this circus. The game degrades.

They’ll get better insight actually playing the game on ways to improve the experience for all. I’m willing to bet you’re one of the many that complain that devs don’t test their content or actually play the game. Then you come complaining because a dev is doing just that and they have a special title. Go outside and touch grass, come back when you’ve come to your senses.

DUHveed · August 2023

TSan said:
Any others should be blocked by Kabam. But they will hardly block their accounts. Once again - there should be no game developers in game modes against regular players. Conflict of interest. You work - okay, work. If you want to play, make a regular account and play in silence, and do not hang a flag on it, "look at everything, I'm a developer, hypothetically I can do whatever I want, and you - settle down and don't ask questions." It's stupid. Another argument in favor of ending this circus. The game degrades.

I think you’re failing to realize this could be an internal Kabam policy to have this if they are a Kabam employee and have their own personal MCOC account. It sounds like a transparency thing and I’m perfectly okay with it.

DarkEternity · August 2023

TSan said:
Guys from Kabam, how can you comment on this? If this is really a developer, then what is he doing in the Fields? I mean, why should regular players compete with accounts that potentially have all the characters and unlimited resources? In all the games I've played before, the developer accounts were technical and never went to war against the players. If you write that he developed an account like an ordinary player, then, guys, what guarantees are there that this is so? Or that one day you just won't upload to it the characters that it lacks?

Damn bro is mad salty that he lost

Jokes aside, you should see that based on his roster & profile that he does NOT have access to all those resources in the slightest. He's a decent player who plays on a high level that joined/worked the rebalance team (like Jnik, remember him?). They do not get preferential treatment because they work as employees for kabam, and like most companies they favor their CUSTOMERS (us) over their employees. There is also an entire section in the TOS dedicated to details about employee accounts (basically saying they will be playing on the same grounds as normal players). Stop harassing them for showing the community that they are here and they are listening to us. I, personally, want to see the developers playing along with all of us. It gives a great peace of mind knowing that they are experiencing the same things we are and thus can actively work to improve the QoL in game.

Noob_Master69 · August 2023

Do you honestly think an actual developer is going to potentially risk his job so he can get some extra stuff in a video game??

And, if this player didn't have the title and banner, they'd still have access tot he same exact tools they do now, you just wouldn't know they're a developer

I personally think it's really cool to see a dev compete in higher level content like this, it gives them better insight into the state of the game

NoOnexRO · August 2023

Rugbyman371 said:

They’ll get better insight actually playing the game on ways to improve the experience for all.

I agree. Playing over and over again in a "controlled environment" (the development server, with the same people and same variables) will get variations of the same results. Playing in the "live server" against actual players will result in the same situations we all get: lag, bugs, missing inputs, strange AI behavior... so, yeah, it's good for them to have a real taste of their own medicine.

Demonzfyre · August 2023

TSan said:
Any others should be blocked by Kabam. But they will hardly block their accounts. Once again - there should be no game developers in game modes against regular players. Conflict of interest. You work - okay, work. If you want to play, make a regular account and play in silence, and do not hang a flag on it, "look at everything, I'm a developer, hypothetically I can do whatever I want, and you - settle down and don't ask questions." It's stupid. Another argument in favor of ending this circus. The game degrades.

This is the most ridiculous thing I've read lately. The community claims the devs never play the game and they're out of touch. Now we can see who they are and now they shouldn't play the game?

Get over it. You're mad because you probably lost. Git gud.

Capn_Dante · August 2023

Nah is a good dude - long time high end player who recently started working at Kabam - that account is his own personal account from before he worked there

MrOmegaBeast · August 2023

The Kabam banner / title is a very recent addition. You have most likely played against Kabam devs many times before and just didn't know it because it is their own personal account.

Wozzle007 · August 2023

I take comfort knowing that the people who make the game play the game. They can see all the good things that come from the game design, as well things that don’t go well and of course, the bugs.

SlayerOfGods · August 2023

TSan said:

SpideyFunko said:
he doesn’t have unlimited resources- he’s got access to the same stuff everyone else does he just also happens to work at kabam

it’s not like a dev test account or anything, it’s a normal in game account that just so happens to be manned by ana mcoc dev
Why was it necessary to introduce this title into the game? To set yourself apart as a separate caste? To stir up people again? What guarantees do I have that all the achievements of his account are completed without manipulation? What guarantees do I have that the extra 1-2-10... million points in BG were scored by his alliance himself, and not because it was this "developer" who endlessly spent marks?

This reply from you essentially confirms that YOU are the one trying to stir people up.

@SpideyFunko literally and explicitly explained that this is NOT a dev account, and here you are still making up theories. Lmao cope

pseudosane · August 2023

TSan said:

SpideyFunko said:
he doesn’t have unlimited resources- he’s got access to the same stuff everyone else does he just also happens to work at kabam

it’s not like a dev test account or anything, it’s a normal in game account that just so happens to be manned by ana mcoc dev
Why was it necessary to introduce this title into the game? To set yourself apart as a separate caste? To stir up people again? What guarantees do I have that all the achievements of his account are completed without manipulation? What guarantees do I have that the extra 1-2-10... million points in BG were scored by his alliance himself, and not because it was this "developer" who endlessly spent marks?

I can debunk this. Nah's highest score so far in the few seasons I've been there is 700k. So.... not the 1-2 million you'd expect.

mgj0630 · August 2023

Personally, I welcome them being in the game, playing all the same modes we do.

Doing so raises confidence that they'll encounter the same issues we do, be just as frustrated by them as we are, and therefore more inclined to want to fix them.

As for them having unique titles, good for them. I have zero doubt that that's the only unique thing they're allowed for themselves, and they have to earn everything else through the same means as us.

Capn_Dante · August 2023

pseudosane said:

TSan said:

SpideyFunko said:
he doesn’t have unlimited resources- he’s got access to the same stuff everyone else does he just also happens to work at kabam

it’s not like a dev test account or anything, it’s a normal in game account that just so happens to be manned by ana mcoc dev
Why was it necessary to introduce this title into the game? To set yourself apart as a separate caste? To stir up people again? What guarantees do I have that all the achievements of his account are completed without manipulation? What guarantees do I have that the extra 1-2-10... million points in BG were scored by his alliance himself, and not because it was this "developer" who endlessly spent marks?
I can debunk this. Nah's highest score so far in the few seasons I've been there is 700k. So.... not the 1-2 million you'd expect.

Nah needs to stop slacking

FloorKiller · August 2023

Tbh, players always complain that devs should "at least" play the game to know why they are frustrated. So here you go...I welcome that decision if they are real devs 🙂

Savage123456789 · August 2023

So the title gives modding privileges, but before they slapped that title on, everything was fine, they didn’t mod🤣🤣

Terra · August 2023

Cool looking title flair ngl.

Karatemike415 · August 2023

“Kabam Devs don’t even play their own game!!!”

*people see Kabam Devs playing their own game*

“NO WAIT, NOT LIKE THAT!!!”

Typhoon · August 2023

I mean, this really does answer the age-old question of whether or not Kabam actually plays their game.

I think it's cool. The opportunity to beat up on our creators. Don't see what the fuss is about.

ThePharcide · August 2023

Wasn’t there a post a while back where Miike stated that dev do play the game, are in alliances and Line chats. But they HAVE to be honest and let their alliance know they work for Kabam.

This just makes it more visible.

DRTO · August 2023

TSan said:
Any others should be blocked by Kabam. But they will hardly block their accounts. Once again - there should be no game developers in game modes against regular players. Conflict of interest. You work - okay, work. If you want to play, make a regular account and play in silence, and do not hang a flag on it, "look at everything, I'm a developer, hypothetically I can do whatever I want, and you - settle down and don't ask questions." It's stupid. Another argument in favor of ending this circus. The game degrades.

Honestly what's the difference between a dev having an account that doesn't reveal their a dev vs. an account that does? According to your logic they could "hypothetically do whatever I want" regardless of whether they are known to the community that they are a dev or not.

The devs have accounts, get over it, and if you truly believe that they have some sort of special advantage over someone then quit the game if you think it's such a problem. But the truth is they built up their accounts just like the rest of us, the only "perk" they get is a special title, which I think is great to see.

Developers in BG?

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