**Mastery Loadouts**
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
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I too like OP struggle with long form content, not from a skill issue, I've done Labyrinth, all Carinas and variants, but didn't touch abyss, I'm 30 and I ain't got the concentration or patience for 30 minute fights but necropolis was actually decently fun. My fingers aren't as much an issue as op because I quaked most of the gauntlet way back when so my finger muscles have muscles.
Look forward to the rest of your posts @DNA3000
Try to use suicide mastery if you are only using aegon for all fight.
Yes! I'm running some paradox lanes on my alt and I have to squint, too.
I like the individual fight write-ups. Seatin made it look easy, but when he explained some fight like Arkhus, I thought twice.
With aegon just revive take 1 hit and smash the opponent. With all furies aegon can take around 100-150k health just in one combo.
Today I r4 aegon. I have resources to R5 him but i don't want to. I always wanted to R5 my valkarie. Last tym also i could have R5 valk but fir the alliance requirement I had to R2 Mentis.
I am really confused should go for R5 aegon or just try with r4. Anyone can suggest me on that?
7:25 AM
As we enter the home stretch, here’s a stats summary of my Necropolis run.
- Total number of deaths: 114
- Total fight time: 2 hours 58 minutes
- Best fight: Red Guardian, one death (Heimdall doesn’t count, because I said so)
- Worst fight: Air Walker, twenty five revives. If every fight was this bad the entire path would take 385 revives, which would actually make the run more depressing than the Gauntlet run where I deliberately brought the wrong team and played to the point of not being able to think straight and my hands were too tired to give the game the finger properly. I don’t mind being a scrub, but not when it involves toothbrushes and toilets.
And now I will perform my morning routine of taking my morning meds and reading the forums, which I normally don’t do as much on weekends, because I prefer to be happy on weekends.
8:15 AM
It apparently takes me longer to take my morning meds than it does MSD to solo the Grandmaster. This has nothing to do with my Necropolis run, but it’s my thread and I’ll cry if I want to, cry if I want to. You would cry too if it happened to you.
Dragon Man after I finish morning caffeine.
Wiccan is simultaneously overhyped and undervalued. Those who love him really hype him, while everyone else thinks he’s meh. Personally, I think the former are right. He’s currently my favorite mystic, and when I first pulled him as a 7* I wasn’t impressed. But after actually playing him for a bit, he went right to rank 2. Absolutely no regrets there. For me he’s been a battlegrounds monster in particular. When Doom is good the defender is just paralyzed unable to do anything while you pound on him. When Wiccan is good the defender just melts like he’s the Heat Miser eating a snow cone.
So of course he’s primarily on the team so he can hit the GM three times for no damage. Because MCOC is powered by whales and irony. Mostly whales, but also irony.
You don’t want to waste heals, but you also don’t want to hoard heals either. I’m constantly selling heals out of overflow during normal play, and as I am a Sigil player I can also get those mega Sigil heals. Slowly, but continuously, so if those will save a revive it is also worth burning those down to zero as well.
Revives are harder to replenish than heals, so I use heals whenever I think it will be worth it. But some fights it is just not worth it. I was healing up on Valk because she is a chip damage monster with pierce. I healed up a lot on Air Walker some, and Captain Falcon as well. Most of the other fights, not so much if I recall correctly.
My guess is an R5 Aegon would have saved me something like 20-30 revives out of the 114 or so I’ve used, which is not inconsequential. But it is also not a deal breaker. Ultimately, that one is up to the player to judge. Cheaper but later, or more costly but now.
If there’s no pressure to go now, I would consider waiting. There’s no alliance pressure on me personally, this is just something I wanted to do. But in no way am I suggesting this is optimal. This may sound weird, but sometimes we have to remember we’re playing a game, and when you’re playing a game sometimes you just have to swing for the fences, even if you’re going to look silly doing it. For me, this is something I never do, and that’s why I’m doing it.
One day I’m going to tell
my kidscomplete random strangers I did Necropolis in the first week. I’m not going to tell them I took the whole week to do it. I will tell them I did it in the snow, without shoes.Ah, Dragon Man. 6 revives, 8 deaths. 20 minutes total fight time.
Can Wiccan do Dragon Man? Yes, he can. Your damage output isn’t going to be high, so it will probably be a slog. Even with my R2 Wiccan I was barely moving his health bar, but I did have the fight mostly controlled. The problem was masteries. I switched my masteries to Aegon optimized ouchies back around Air Walker, and that doesn’t work for Wiccan. Without willpower you will just poison yourself to death. I could have switched them back, did the fight, and then switch them back again, and I think I could have done the fight in two revives.
So of course I just bashed him down with Aegon, because life is short. I did throw Proxima at him because she was alive for some reason, and between her and Wiccan and the six revives on Aegon I got him down. I was worried about Dragon Man, and he’s not a totally easy fight, but he’s not all that hard really.
He is a bit of a pain in the neck with this particular set up though. Wiccan might actually be able to solo him, but not with recoil masteries. And Aegon has a special bit of nastiness. The other way to knock out Dragon Man’s power gain is to parry him. But you’re using Aegon, so you’re criting constantly, so Dragon Man is going stun immune constantly. So knocking off his power gain is much trickier, and the whole SP3 then flail around like a three year old fighting a teddy bear is 50/50 at best. You could remove the charges by deliberately backing into the corner, but that’s some MSD-level $4!% there, and this is the Scrubathon, not a reboot of That’s Incredible.
Still six revives is not too bad. Also, this is definitely one of those heal Aegon fights, because you’re probably going to be taking some SP2 blocked damage and you will find yourself sometimes eating a lot of blocked hits in the corner. Unless you can evade in the corner really well.
Current Necropolis milestone count: +100. Scrubathon contribution crosses into triple digits. You’re all welcome. Primordial Dust, here we come.
Next up: Captain America Infinity Beard. He doesn’t look too tough so I might do him in a little bit. Also, now is where I mention how anal I am about using energy. I’ve been burning energy for the past two days by autocompleting the ISO-fields and catalyst dailies. Because even though I’m spending thousands of units worth of resources doing the top tier end game content in the game to get rewards towards the highest progression tier in the game that literally just came out in the hopes of spending even more on Cyber Weekend offers that might push me over the finish line, hey, I’m not going to let my energy go to waste when I can get some perfectly good T2 class catalysts with it.
I really think this should count. Come on Kabam, make it happen.
Another fight R2 Wiccan appears to be good for: 3* Nebula. He really wrecks that fight.
(Just catching up on some objectives).
By the way, another thing I’m doing that people might find useful or interesting. I am actually recording all these fights, more for my own education than any intent to upload them anywhere. But I’m also restarting the client after every single fight. I do the fight, I stop the recording, I wait for the recording to finalize, then I force close the client. I want every fight to be done on a “fresh” start of the client, to minimize any funky behavior. So far, no crashes, no glitches, no obvious input glitches beyond the usual stuff.
I do not want to crash out on a fight and have to do it over again or lose progress, and I’ve also heard about that run where someone accidentally exited out and got support to put them back, but Aegon was back to zero combo (because support can teleport you onto any map anywhere in theory, but they can’t alter the state of champions in that way apparently).
When I lose trophy five in battlegrounds because of a glitch I lose my mind. If the game glitches and my Aegon gets reset to zero combo, I will probably be buying a new phone. And couch, and end table, and probably a few windows.
And whenever I do my run, I’ll be right there with you on 100+ revives.
Captain America Infinity War goes down easy peasy. It took three revives and 11 minutes because he’s tanky, and because glance and concussions happen when you least want them to happen. But this is definitely a solo possibility with an R5 ascended Aegon. Nothing too tricky, and even his specials can be evaded while rooted, so you have a long timer to get him down.
These times are much longer than an optimal Aegon run because an ascended R5 Aegon would be pumping out maybe 40% more damage, and because I’m not the best at timing that hit in the face get furies thing. Optimal Aegon play with optimal ranked up Aegon would probably be doing this twice as fast, which also implies you’d generally be doing it for half the revives.
At this point I’m healing to full every time, because I still have 220 L4 health potions from all those 7 hour crystals that for some reason I called four hour crystals, probably wishful thinking there, and there’s no point in being left with any once this run is over. I already cleared monthly EQ from UC to TB plus the Parabonus, so there’s no possibility of me using significant amounts of potions for the rest of the month. I could sell them for gold, but me selling health potions for gold is like MSD hiring a merc to clear the side quest.
Current Necropolis milestone count: +103. Next up: Nova. The last fight before the Grandmaster. I haven’t fought the Grandmaster in ages, I need to study that fight again. Hopefully my muscle memory hasn’t become muscle dementia in the intervening years.
125 deaths, including the Titania ramp up is a lot, but on the other hand its an amount manageable for even free to play players not named Brian Grant. If I get Nova in less than 15 revives I will have averaged less than ten revives per defender. For the hardest end game content in the game in week one of release, I’ll take it.
Meanwhile, time for lunch. Nova almost certainly later today. GM maybe tonight, maybe tomorrow. Scrubathon is approaching the station.
The smart play is often to walk away and live to fight another day. It is one of those good advice things I'm really good at dispensing and really bad at living.
And down goes Nova. 13 minutes, 6 revives. Not a hard fight, but three of those deaths were due to forgetting about the node and letting the timer burn me. Nova is not a hard fight with Aegon, and even easier if you can evade his SP2. But you can also bait SP1 and slow play the fight, although that’s less effective with an R4 than it would be with an R5.
And with that fight, the easy path is now complete. 131 deaths, a few of them goofy ones that shouldn’t count much, and about 122 revives (a few team revives). Three hours and forty two minutes of actual fight time, plus or minus. 41 hours of elapsed time.
Current Necropolis milestone count: +109.
I’m probably going to take another break, I’m going to be busy this evening so I’m not sure if I’m going to attempt my GM run tonight or tomorrow. I want to think a bit about the fight mechanics, make sure I have them drilled into my memory so I’m not fumbling about, and probably watch some fights again to see how it goes.
Hopefully the Grandmaster is not too difficult, and DNA3000 is not Died in Necropolis with Aegon 3000 times.
Can't wait for you to post here that you have become 'Valiant'
I am not a scrub. I said I was a long form content scrub, because I don’t do well in endurance content and so I also tend to avoid it. In terms of all players of the game, I’m certainly a top 10% player. I might be a top 5% player in general. I’m probably not a top 1% player. That’s certainly not a scrub in general. What I can do, probably most average players in the game can’t do. It is no crime to be below me on the sliding scale of MCOC skill.
But among end game players, I’m probably average. Not the worst, not the best, probably in the middle somewhere. But there’s no way to be sure, because most players are afraid, deep down, to show their true efforts in the game. What they do well, and equally what they don’t do well. No one wants others to think they are subpar, so most of the people we see are the ones confident enough to know they are significantly above average.
Even I felt some of that. I started this thread two days after launch because I honestly wasn’t sure I was going to do this until I actually started it, and even then I was a bit nervous about maybe finding myself in over my head and wanting to back out and try again later. I didn’t start the thread until I was committed. Even then, there was that nagging worry that I might find myself blockaded and stuck having to admit I couldn’t do it. Part of the reason why I decided to go now is specifically because of that fear. When I said it was time to face my demons, it isn’t the Necropolis that was that demon, and it wasn’t even Karatemike. It was the fear that I might put it out there that I wasn’t good enough to get this done.
We shouldn’t be afraid to admit we might not be the best players in the world. When we only show the world our successes, I think we give everyone else the wrong impression about their own struggles. That if they struggle, they are the only one, that they are extraordinarily inadequate.
I’m not a scrub, and anyone who can’t do what I can do is not worse than a scrub. I’m.a pretty strong player with a very strong roster. But conversely, among the end game players I’m nothing special, and among the top players I’m a noob. And that’s fine. There’s always going to be tons of people above us, and tons of people below us. We all need to remember that. We are all gods to some. We are all scrubs to others.
By and large, those following my run have been very kind and supportive. Even Seatin gave me a thumbs up, and I’ve gotten many people encouraging me both on and off the forums. Karatemike thinks I can easily explore the rest of Necropolis with a team of five Spider Gwens, and I’ll take it under advisement. A big chunk of the people encouraging me are significantly stronger than me, and exactly none of them have said an unkind word about my efforts. Knowing that by and large most of the end game players (at least the ones I know) just want to see everyone else succeed as well makes the whole thing worth it. We often see the worst of the community on the forums, on that thing that used to be called twitter, in the cesspool that is YouTube comment sections. But really, they are the exceptions.
Never be afraid to admit your struggles, because that’s the key to getting better. You’re not a scrub if you’re not as good as I am. I call myself a scrub because I know in this kind of content I’m going to struggle, and I’m going to burn through potions to get through it, and that’s fine, and I’m just doing my best to not be afraid to admit it.
And now, back to your regularly scheduled Scrubathon.
I started ranking up my Aegon, and fortunately i have a big stash of 4 hr crystals. I’ve avoided long form content in the past, but the rewards here are really tempting.
I am currently thinking of taking aegon, prox, heimdall + reverse immune + 1 (maybe NF but not sure). Will r5 aegon and ascend him and boost like crazy to get as much from him per revive.
Plan is to wait til banqueting so that when I run out of revives (which I definitely will!!) I can get banqueting points for the revives i get rather than my usual banqueting crystals.
Just wanting to double check a couple of things with everyone reading please.
1. I have a r1 stryfe 7* - can he be used for the final 1% on GM and would he be good anywhere else - Cap Britain maybe?
2. Can I start with aegon as rank 4 - ramp him up and then ascend and r5 him during the run?
Look forward to the rest of your run @DNA3000 - and thanks for giving the rest of us "elder scrubs" hope!!