Overrated or underrated: Karnak

EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 7,602 ★★★★★
edited January 28 in General Discussion
Continuing this series with the 7th post, let’s have a chat about the Inhuman martial artist himself, Karnak

So, before his Buff, Karnak was very below average. He did have some utility back then, like True Strike on sp1, easy access to Critical hits, and a Concussion like debuff called Daze on his sp3, but his damage was in the noodle territory.

After his buff, he is definitely an improved champion. The damage was raised by a lot, he had some additional utility such as instant bleeds, and he also kept some of his old tricks such as his True strike and his ability accuracy reduction.

So, what do you think about him nowadays? Is he overrated, underrated, or perfect? Do you think he will be a 7 star alongside Medusa and possibly Black bolt? Personally I like him, his playstyle is similar to other “heavy counter” champs like Crossbones, Onslaught, She Hulk, etc, but it’s effective

Overrated or underrated: Karnak 111 votes

Overrated
24%
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Underrated
24%
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Perfectly rated
51%
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Comments

  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 7,602 ★★★★★
    Underrated
    @Terminatrix probably through blunt force trauma
  • WardrunaWardruna Member Posts: 34
    He’s definitely got some good stuff going for him. Wish they would decrease his focus charge timer to 8-10 seconds. Also, I wish a non-intercepting/non-interrupting heavy wouldn’t consume a charge but rather pause the timer for a few seconds
  • Ayden_noah1Ayden_noah1 Member Posts: 1,852 ★★★★
    Perfectly rated
    I forgot that Karnak was stil in the game. This is what happens when new champs keeps getting added to the already huge current champion pool, unless the champ is good to great, they get left behind real fast.
  • ahmynutsahmynuts Member Posts: 7,558 ★★★★★
    I wish Kabam fully committed to the dual-class concept with him
  • TerminatrixTerminatrix Member Posts: 2,948 ★★★★★



    R5Ascended Karnak gang checking in 🤝

    He’s been in the Attactic this season so even though I hate Crush, I still get to have fun bringing the boy

    Karnak is absolutely underrated. Like ChaosMax said above, most people I talk to about him have completely forgotten that he got a buff and still look at him from like a very 2018 lens and refuse to give him a second chance. He’s not a champ that’s for everyone, he’s got his play style he likes, match ups he’s gonna thrive in more than others, and he’s got a desire for high sig so most don’t give him the chance because they don’t want to invest. But, when you do there’s a great champ behind it.

    He’s got shortened non damage debuff duration and can completely bypass nodes like Encroaching Stun (if there’s no duration enhanced and you have Limber) which are a pain in the butt.

    He gets a lot of combat power from smacking into the opponent’s block (like Valkyrie, but way more), which is great when the Defender is being a passive turtle, or when you need to reach a bar of power before your opponent does (or without having them gain much power at all). This power gain also bypasses nodes like Polka Dot Power. I used to take the Polka Dot Power/Stunning Reflection mini in AW against Thing and Peni Parker with him all the time using this to my advantage.

    Another thing that I think is overlooked about Karnak is his crit rate is actually pretty high. as long as you have just one Focus Charge (if he’s duped he starts with it, and if not it doesn’t take long to get) you get a passive +2750 increase to your crit rate. It’s technically not a base stat, but since it’s with you pretty much all the time I consider it so. Fragility debuffs + crit rate + passive furies = a good yellow number time.

    There’s a lot more you could say about him, about Fragilities, his ability to crit through block, the underrated Ability Accuracy Reduction synergy he gets from Medusa, etc but

    Tl;dr champ fun and useful, both as an individual and also part of the Inhuman trio

    Not too long, and I did read it. When @Cat_Murdock speaks, I listen 👊🏾😁 Thanks for the insight!
  • Herbal_TaxmanHerbal_Taxman Member Posts: 662 ★★★
    Unrated is the proper answer, as no one really cares enough about Karnak to rate him.
  • FrostGiantLordFrostGiantLord Member Posts: 2,057 ★★★★
    Underrated
    He's definitely underrated. People just don't like to acknowledge that fact
  • Marvelfan30Marvelfan30 Member Posts: 1,174 ★★★★
    Underrated
    ahmynuts said:

    I wish Kabam fully committed to the dual-class concept with him

    Still don't understand why they did it in the 1st place tbh I mean I get where they're coming from but still he's the only one like this
  • TerraTerra Member Posts: 8,438 ★★★★★
    Underrated

    ahmynuts said:

    I wish Kabam fully committed to the dual-class concept with him

    Still don't understand why they did it in the 1st place tbh I mean I get where they're coming from but still he's the only one like this
    He's technically a Inhuman (Cosmic), but instead of being exposed to the Terrigen Mists, he trained his body instead (Hence, Skill)
    The Skill/Cosmic cat usage is a reference to.
  • ahmynutsahmynuts Member Posts: 7,558 ★★★★★

    ahmynuts said:

    I wish Kabam fully committed to the dual-class concept with him

    Still don't understand why they did it in the 1st place tbh I mean I get where they're coming from but still he's the only one like this
    It would've been cool if they made him actually dual class with his buff and not just a waste of two types of cats
  • ShadowstrikeShadowstrike Member Posts: 3,110 ★★★★★
    Underrated
    I recently found AllisonEdits on YT where she's showcased Karnak and after seeing how he's SUPPOSED to be played, I have to agree that he's become a very underrated champion.

    You need to to hit into their block and intercept their heavy/ special with your heavy to see his skill.

    https://youtu.be/Fr2hEGxYda8?si=ba1snYt5PSzCMitQ
  • 13579rebel_13579rebel_ Member Posts: 2,785 ★★★★★
    Underrated
    I think he's underrated he can do some neat damage with great utility

    Would Love to see a write up on vulture
  • Sachhyam257Sachhyam257 Member Posts: 1,203 ★★★★

    I think he's underrated he can do some neat damage with great utility

    Would Love to see a write up on vulture

    My biggest gripe with vulture is that you can't do backdraft medium intercepts without draining his chitauri charges, it's so annoying.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 7,602 ★★★★★
    edited January 29
    Underrated

    I think he's underrated he can do some neat damage with great utility

    Would Love to see a write up on vulture

    Vulture, I don’t use him very often, just mostly as a Bishop counter. But I know he’s a decent champ
  • PantherusNZPantherusNZ Member Posts: 2,193 ★★★★★
    Perfectly rated

    ahmynuts said:

    I wish Kabam fully committed to the dual-class concept with him

    Still don't understand why they did it in the 1st place tbh I mean I get where they're coming from but still he's the only one like this
    Isn't Unstoppable Colossus also dual-class with Mutant and Mystic?
  • Cat_MurdockCat_Murdock Member, Content Creators Posts: 1,034 Content Creator
    Underrated

    ahmynuts said:

    I wish Kabam fully committed to the dual-class concept with him

    Still don't understand why they did it in the 1st place tbh I mean I get where they're coming from but still he's the only one like this
    Isn't Unstoppable Colossus also dual-class with Mutant and Mystic?
    He gives both Mystic and Mutant ISO on dupes, but only requires Mutant catalysts during rank up, so not quite the same way as Karnak
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