Is Nimrod still relevant in 2024?

With recent mutant defenders such as Dust and Onslaught countering some if not all of Nimrod's main mechanics as a mutant slayer, as well as the presence of newer tech champs like Shuri, Future Antman, OG Iron Man, buffed Red Skull, and now the Prowler, is he still relevant nowadays or is he outperformed by other techs?

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Rayven5220

Confirmed best bullseye counter! 🤣🤪

I had no choice, he was the only bleed immune I drafted. Would have gone better had I not taken a sp1 to the face, and been in shock mode for my second sp2, but luckily my opponent played a bit worse than I did that round.

He's still a great champ, just outshined by alot of other tech champs nowadays.

EdisonLaw

@ItsClobberinTime As I said, disagree trolls

EdisonLaw

No way u have just asked that

He's actually my second favorite champion in the game, but I realized he isn't used in BGs that much nowadays compared to the other techs

Priyabrata

Just because something is new, doesn't always mean it's better. Nimrod can still take out 90% of the mutant class with ease.
He's an above average defender too
Yet so many of them aren't great defenders that are used nowadays. Except for domino, Toad, Sauron

Well idk about you but R2/3 Domino is one of those defenders I face very regularly (with occasional toads and Saurons).
For me personally Domino is one of those defenders that I would like to have a sure shot counter for because one misstep and she will annihilate any chances of winning.
It's the same reason I keep Infamous IM to deal with bishop. I'm not willing to take any chances with defenders like that
Also Nimrod works for havok and I've been seeing him gain some popularity as a 7* recently

Sunstar19

I love Nimrod, useful in a lot of modes. He was my go to champ for Kindred in the recent hotly debated side quest
Really, did he do that well? I thought he isn’t a good option due to the buffs he has

As a robot he is immune to reverse control. His SP2 was able to take a huge chunk of Kindred health, and his SP1 had a long duration useful for the last phase of the right against Kindred when rooted.

captain_rogers

Shuri, Future Antman, OG Iron Man, buffed Red Skull, and now the Prowler,

All these champs suck against onslaught and dust as well, lol.

Fun fact : outside bgs, you can absolutely destroy, cook, eat and po*p dust with nimrod, by pairing robo boy with robo girl Omega sentinel, since it will allow nimmy to inflict incenerates if opponent is shock immune. It also empowers omega sentinel a lot, a unique ability nowhere to be seen, robo girl inflicts shock for each non contact hit or hit avoid in opponent special. So she inflict 1 shock against deadpool sp1 but 8 against falcon, lol. This synergy should he talked more🥰.

captain_rogers

People should really think twice before commenting, Yes nimrod is getting drafted way less in my deck as well, but Shuri, Future Antman, OG Iron Man, buffed Red Skull, and now the Prowler, none of these champs counter onslaught. All are metals and take unavoidable damage against onslaught. None of these champs counter dust, except maybe prowler.

"nimrod doesn't counter onslaught and dust" is a poor argument when none of the champs mentioned on the post counter onslaught or dust, lol.

Nimrod is a evergreen champ, just wait until in future they make a annoying mutant defender like onslaught but be able to be countered by nimrod (just don't be shock immune and punish the attacker for applying shock).

GrO_ot78

One of the best tech champs, but maybe not in BG. To easy to dex his specials.

Yondu is my «Go2» vs prowess champs, converting armour breaks and prowess to armour ups for himself.

Jack2634

i left him out of my BG deck, but still use him whenever i need a hard counter for mutant. Except onslaught, he is still the mutant killer

Ercarret

He's a great counter to basically every mutant that wasn't released in the last six months (plus Bishop). We'll probably see him phased out more and more as Kabam starts to release un-Nimrodable mutant champions, but there's no question that he's probably the best mutant killer and general mutant counter in the game.

The reason he hasn't seemed "relevant" in a while is that Kabam seemingly took a year off from releasing any more mutants while they figured out how to make them less nukable with Nimrod. He basically destroyed the entire mutant identity with how he shuts off prowess. Kabam continued releasing mutant champions that still relied on prowess to work so he continued to be basically the only champion you needed to deal with any mutant champion you faced. My guess is that Kabam has wanted to get away from that and that that is why it took so gosh darn long for the game to get another mutant champion after Captain Britain.

However, until the game starts getting way more anti-Nimrod mutants, he'll always have an obvious place as a mutant counter.

TheSaith

Mutant slayer or not , just use him against knull , or laot of armor breaks . u will enjoy

Fryday

I did not vote as I have been asking this question myself for a while and still not sure the answer.

If the question is:-

Q - Is Nimrod an OP champ?

Then the answer would be yes, very much so, he take on so many champs, mainly Mutant, but can be use on other champs and Nodes too.

Q - Do I use Nimrod these days (or when was the last time I used Nimrod)?

Emmm, I don't remember the last time I use Nimrod.

I take Iron Man for Prowess match up and Shuri for other, as for Onslaught...well I just cry, got nothing on him 🤣 yet.

I think the true answer is really down to personal preference. If you like using him, and still have a lot of solo content to clear, then he definitely worth ranking up. Why not use a champ you enjoy.

Personally for me, I thinking about ranking OS up instead of Nimrod, I find that can I utilise her for more matches, not as fast as Nimrod, but more versatile.

Don't think there is a right or wrong answer ti this each to their own. 😊

Chuck_Finley

I voted no - because like most every champ, it’s not about the champ. It’s what Kabam restricts on hard fights that matter. And of late, with few exceptions, it seems boss fights in all late game metas are designed to nerf… ahem… render irrelevant class advantage. So these champs that destroy the class they are supposed to aren’t nearly as valuable. The game is pushing champs that cover more ground outside the class advantage … which makes champs like Nimrod less likely to be used.

Just my take.

Emilia90

People should really think twice before commenting, Yes nimrod is getting drafted way less in my deck as well, but Shuri, Future Antman, OG Iron Man, buffed Red Skull, and now the Prowler, none of these champs counter onslaught. All are metals and take unavoidable damage against onslaught. None of these champs counter dust, except maybe prowler.

"nimrod doesn't counter onslaught and dust" is a poor argument when none of the champs mentioned on the post counter onslaught or dust, lol.

Nimrod is a evergreen champ, just wait until in future they make a annoying mutant defender like onslaught but be able to be countered by nimrod (just don't be shock immune and punish the attacker for applying shock).

FAM can take dust and I’ve seen him beat Onslaught decently, but that’s not even the point. Red Skull is a great bullseye counter and a great domino counter with excellent defensive potential. Shuri is a great two way champ and FAM is a great defender who can also nuke any general matchup way faster than Nimrod.

If I draft Nimrod, it would only be for domino. My r3 stalled out the only Nimrod I saw on someone’s deck a couple days ago.

Like I said, he’s a great champ for questing and he’s still a good mutant counter, but he hasn’t had many direct uses for me in a little while since I’d rather have someone else for general matches, while champs like RS and FAM get lots of use outside their perfect matches

pseudosane

People should really think twice before commenting, Yes nimrod is getting drafted way less in my deck as well, but Shuri, Future Antman, OG Iron Man, buffed Red Skull, and now the Prowler, none of these champs counter onslaught. All are metals and take unavoidable damage against onslaught. None of these champs counter dust, except maybe prowler.

"nimrod doesn't counter onslaught and dust" is a poor argument when none of the champs mentioned on the post counter onslaught or dust, lol.

Nimrod is a evergreen champ, just wait until in future they make a annoying mutant defender like onslaught but be able to be countered by nimrod (just don't be shock immune and punish the attacker for applying shock).
FAM can take dust and I’ve seen him beat Onslaught decently, but that’s not even the point. Red Skull is a great bullseye counter and a great domino counter with excellent defensive potential. Shuri is a great two way champ and FAM is a great defender who can also nuke any general matchup way faster than Nimrod.

If I draft Nimrod, it would only be for domino. My r3 stalled out the only Nimrod I saw on someone’s deck a couple days ago.

Like I said, he’s a great champ for questing and he’s still a good mutant counter, but he hasn’t had many direct uses for me in a little while since I’d rather have someone else for general matches, while champs like RS and FAM get lots of use outside their perfect matches

to be fair, this is based on your preference.

Nimrod, in general, is a personal preference. Is he the best tech as he was a while back? No. The game has evolved enough so that he can't counter everything.
However, he counters enough to be relevant, if not a straight up nuke. He counters regen, prowess, and has immunities to boot. He is also an annoying defender that stalls for time. He is still awesome in war on multiple different nodes. He has pseudo power control as well, and is incredibly tanky and can take punishment.

OP, if you like nimrod, go ahead and rank him. He is still absolutely awesome.

EdisonLaw

@pseudosane he’s my second favourite champ, it’s just that I don’t see him too often nowadays with all the new tech champs around

peixemacaco

Yes...
Always search on my rival roster on BG to ban...

Ercarret

To add one thing that I kind of missed in my previous comment:

One way to look at the situation is this: is the mutant class still a relevant defender class that needs countering? I'd say no, at least up until Onslaught's release a couple of months ago. He and Dust have joined Domino and Bishop as the relevant mutant defenders, but on the whole, people don't really use mutants on defense any more. Back when the mutant class was relevant in terms of defender strength, Nimrod was usually the answer.

So you can say that he's lost relevance and you'd be kind of right, but I'd argue that that it is due to the whole mutant class losing relevance rather than better tech champions than Nimrod being released. I won't argue that FAM, Shocker or Shuri aren't fantastic - of course they are - but they don't "counter mutants". They are just really good champions. Meanwhile, Nimrod countered the whole class into irrelevancy.

We'll see what happens now that Kabam seems to have had a year-long meeting about it and has started to release mutants that he can't steamroll. My guess is that he was basically the Red Magneto of the tech class. The one champion that just shut down too many others, to the point where it wasn't funny anymore. The same way a lot of #metal tech champs suddenly couldn't have their ability accuracy reduced by mutant champions, I'm sure a lot of mutant champions in the future will be built to not be easily countered by Nimrod. It's not a coincidence that both Dust and Onslaught are immune/resistant to shock, for example.

SirGamesBond

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jdschw

What rotation are you using with Fantman that makes him faster than nimrod?

In my experience, nimrod ends most matches in 1-2 SP2s. But the fantman rotation that I know requires that you build 2 bars of power, M-LLLL into SP1, build back to SP2, and hope you can line the special up with the power detonation. It sure does a lot of damage, but it seems a lot trickier to me than "switch to blitz and fire the SP2".

Am I missing something here? Is there a faster fantman nuke rotation?

ItsClobberinTime

What rotation are you using with Fantman that makes him faster than nimrod?

In my experience, nimrod ends most matches in 1-2 SP2s. But the fantman rotation that I know requires that you build 2 bars of power, M-LLLL into SP1, build back to SP2, and hope you can line the special up with the power detonation. It sure does a lot of damage, but it seems a lot trickier to me than "switch to blitz and fire the SP2".

Am I missing something here? Is there a faster fantman nuke rotation?

2 sp2s: four bars.
Sp1-sp2: three bars.

Nimrod usually kills with one sp2 against mutants but not other classes, so for other classes FAM is by far the better attacker. I've done Abs Man and Doom with FAM before and nothing changes, sp1 sp2 fight's over.

jdschw

2 sp2s: four bars.
Sp1-sp2: three bars.

Nimrod usually kills with one sp2 against mutants but not other classes, so for other classes FAM is by far the better attacker. I've done Abs Man and Doom with FAM before and nothing changes, sp1 sp2 fight's over.

Okay, cool, good to know I've got the right rotation. Thanks! I can see how it can be faster if it lines up right.

But what about if your power detonation isn't active when you want to throw the SP2? If you can get encroaching swarm, it's basically always active. So do you start by doing a bunch of intercepts? Because without encroaching swarm, it seems tricky to line up for me. For example, if the defender throws a special after your SP1, then it disables the power detonation and you have to try to get it reenabled before your SP1 disintegration falls off.

Polygon

Might remove Galan from my deck as well

captain_rogers

What rotation are you using with Fantman that makes him faster than nimrod?

In my experience, nimrod ends most matches in 1-2 SP2s. But the fantman rotation that I know requires that you build 2 bars of power, M-LLLL into SP1, build back to SP2, and hope you can line the special up with the power detonation. It sure does a lot of damage, but it seems a lot trickier to me than "switch to blitz and fire the SP2".

Am I missing something here? Is there a faster fantman nuke rotation?

His basica hit hard and deal huge disintegration damage when detonation is active. So stay hyperagressive during detonation is active.also go for sp2 always in bgs, sp1 aint worth it

EdisonLaw

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And why?

ItsClobberinTime

2 sp2s: four bars.
Sp1-sp2: three bars.

Nimrod usually kills with one sp2 against mutants but not other classes, so for other classes FAM is by far the better attacker. I've done Abs Man and Doom with FAM before and nothing changes, sp1 sp2 fight's over.
Okay, cool, good to know I've got the right rotation. Thanks! I can see how it can be faster if it lines up right.

But what about if your power detonation isn't active when you want to throw the SP2? If you can get encroaching swarm, it's basically always active. So do you start by doing a bunch of intercepts? Because without encroaching swarm, it seems tricky to line up for me. For example, if the defender throws a special after your SP1, then it disables the power detonation and you have to try to get it reenabled before your SP1 disintegration falls off.

Yes you always want to start by intercepting or punishing heavy until you get to 5 nano armor, after that you don't have to worry about intercepting because you'll be triggering more nano armor buffs when you block or even when you dex.
As for the power detonation, that's not an issue as long as you have at least 6 nano armor buffs, if you throw sp1 and they throw a special you can easily trigger it again before anything expires, two or three combos (usually I save my relic precisely for this) and the power detonation triggers again BUT you gotta have 6 nano armor or more cause that makes power detonation timer go down faster.

MadGodOryx

I would say I definitely use him less in bg, but mostly because not a lot of mutants get drafted for defense it seems(beside onslaught or bishop). He’s very nice when they draft a domino. I still use him and warlock more than any tech in solo content tho
however both Onslaught and Bishop aren't Nimrod friendly opponents.

This implies I ever let Onslaught through the ban phase.

SirGamesBond

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And why?

Not helpful in BGs "FOR ME" Can't keep him to counter 1 champ (domibish) in a deck of 30.
Opponent wil use her on attack, midnim instantly becomes useless baggage.

WhaleDefenderGrounds have made many other good attackers worse.

Ascended Herc is also out of my deck. Can't keep up with ultra instinct jutsu AI.

Next champ close to going out of the deck is slowpin. Same situation like nimrod, helps only against 1 champ, photon, and if she is unduped or low sig 7*, he becomes much worse option.

If champions are not countering one of the defenders, they will slowly go out of the deck.
Defenders like
OnSlut, bully'i', snake charmer, Grandpa Hulk. Dustbin, human centipede. Etc
And the 7* defenders like Chavez dominobish monger korg sassy etc
Too many champs to counter. Attacker needs more versatility with 'speed'.

captain_rogers

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And why?
Not helpful in BGs "FOR ME" Can't keep him to counter 1 champ (domibish) in a deck of 30.
Opponent wil use her on attack, midnim instantly becomes useless baggage.

WhaleDefenderGrounds have made many other good attackers worse.

Ascended Herc is also out of my deck. Can't keep up with ultra instinct jutsu AI.

Next champ close to going out of the deck is slowpin. Same situation like nimrod, helps only against 1 champ, photon, and if she is unduped or low sig 7*, he becomes much worse option.

If champions are not countering one of the defenders, they will slowly go out of the deck.
Defenders like
OnSlut, bully'i', snake charmer, Grandpa Hulk. Dustbin, human centipede. Etc
And the 7* defenders like Chavez dominobish monger korg sassy etc
Too many champs to counter. Attacker needs more versatility with 'speed'.

My last two brain cells are destroyed after reading this.

Tf is human centipede?

jdschw

My last two brain cells are destroyed after reading this.

Tf is human centipede?

He was referring to Kindred. DO NOT look up the original meaning of this term. You will regret it if you do.