Can anyone actually post a 7* Blade video in BGs for the love of God? I can't with all the slander and I'm starting to think he really is that bad which makes me sad cause the OG Trinity got me through so much content years ago, it's how I became Uncollected 🙃
Idk, I've really been enjoying him. Always run 5/5 Deep Wounds anyways, so he is good in BGs and can be a sneaky defender.
Maybe Pikolu can , but let's be honest that proves absolutely nothing, all the match-ups you see will be 6* r5 ascended at best, at 7* r3 he's punching wayyy down, so I don't think it would make a valid argument. Maybe someone else can try a r1 or 2 blade to prove your point but I doubt it will. I don't have anything personal against blade man I love him, he was my first featured used the trinity a lot but.. it's not 2017 anymore. So when people just claim he's a solid pull it's simply not true
Idk, I've really been enjoying him. Always run 5/5 Deep Wounds anyways, so he is good in BGs and can be a sneaky defender.
Ngl anyone losing to blade is just bad at the game
He's a tactic defender rn, that's probably the reason. Plus, the dmg we're currently seeing from blade is with the extra 10% attack from the saga boost lol.
Idk, I've really been enjoying him. Always run 5/5 Deep Wounds anyways, so he is good in BGs and can be a sneaky defender.
Ngl anyone losing to blade is just bad at the game
He's a tactic defender rn, that's probably the reason. Plus, the dmg we're currently seeing from blade is with the extra 10% attack from the saga boost lol.
Ah that's fair ig, I would've known if people actually used him. Although even then he is just mutant food
This is about blade being the worst 7* and my arguments for it. "Then don't use him" lmao, tell me you didn't read the thread without telling me you didn't read the thread.
Blades nowhere near the worst 7*, but he is a bad 7*, he has barely any utility, his regen isn't ever going to be meaningful, his bleeds are his only utility, and like you said, his synergies are on fodder you can't afford to waste spaces on. Pretty laughable for a champion that was gamebreaking 5-6 years ago, an easy fix to at least improve him would be a synergy with a viable champion that turns his bleeds into ruptures against bleed immune champs, but still have them act as bleeds/extended via deep wounds. Wouldn't break the game but would at least make him decently viable.
I opened 4 current titan crystals so far and got 3 freaking Blade in a row (the first one is Dust)
I did have 7* stark spidey but he is undup and Ghost Rider is useless now. And strangely enough, I don’t even have 6* Ghost Rider even if I have almost all 6* in the game. (Besides the upcoming feature ones like Spiderpunk, only lack Punisher, Psylocke, GhostRider and original Ironfist)
OP, you make some points I agree with and some I disagree with.
First, totally agree that Blade against a bleed immune non-dimensional champ is going to be a bad time. Just straight miserable.
Second, I saw in a follow up post something about incorporating synergies into his base kit and while I don’t think Kabam would do that, I do think there’s another way to handle it: Relics. Give a relic that can substitute for his synergies to widen his usefulness. Call it Dracula’s Fang or something, make it an alternative relic type to Strikers, and we’re off to the races. And yes, it would add Morbius to his Danger Sense because I agree it’s silly to not have the only vampire in the game not set this off.
I have a question about the conclusions reached on Blade’s damage. How many levels of Deep Wounds, if any, are those complaining about his damage running? He really demands 5/5, but that’s not uncommon for bleed champs. If you’re running less than that, he’s gonna have feather down hands.
When it comes to his usefulness in PvP content, that’s a very difficult question. He’s a champ that really lives and dies by the meta. He was a monster on attack in the Sugar Pill/Decay meta. I was doing T1 AW during that time, and 6* R5 Blades were extremely common, some even ascended. He was extremely meta relevant during that time, and it’s only a matter of time before the meta cycles back to him as an attacker in PvP content.
As for PvE, it depends on what modes we’re talking about. For endurance content, he hasn’t been relevant since we were using the 5* to tackle the Labyrinth. For Story/EQ content, I’d argue that he’s still perfectly useful. Do y’all actually use all five slots on your team for this stuff? I regularly end up bringing synergy champs to boost up a primary lane clearer/boss killer. For things like Winter of Woe where you get only one or three champions, we come back to the limitations on his Danger without synergy, which I agree with OP on.
I was one of the people on the other thread arguing that Blade is “solid.” I stand by that, but I think y’all are putting a lot more weight on that adjective than I am. He’s a serviceable champion. If you want to invest in him, you’ll see some cool stuff, but not enough to make him worth investing in over many other skill champions. He’s somebody I’d be very happy to see from a basic crystal, but very unhappy to see from a Titan.
OP, you make some points I agree with and some I disagree with.
First, totally agree that Blade against a bleed immune non-dimensional champ is going to be a bad time. Just straight miserable.
Second, I saw in a follow up post something about incorporating synergies into his base kit and while I don’t think Kabam would do that, I do think there’s another way to handle it: Relics. Give a relic that can substitute for his synergies to widen his usefulness. Call it Dracula’s Fang or something, make it an alternative relic type to Strikers, and we’re off to the races. And yes, it would add Morbius to his Danger Sense because I agree it’s silly to not have the only vampire in the game not set this off.
I have a question about the conclusions reached on Blade’s damage. How many levels of Deep Wounds, if any, are those complaining about his damage running? He really demands 5/5, but that’s not uncommon for bleed champs. If you’re running less than that, he’s gonna have feather down hands.
When it comes to his usefulness in PvP content, that’s a very difficult question. He’s a champ that really lives and dies by the meta. He was a monster on attack in the Sugar Pill/Decay meta. I was doing T1 AW during that time, and 6* R5 Blades were extremely common, some even ascended. He was extremely meta relevant during that time, and it’s only a matter of time before the meta cycles back to him as an attacker in PvP content.
As for PvE, it depends on what modes we’re talking about. For endurance content, he hasn’t been relevant since we were using the 5* to tackle the Labyrinth. For Story/EQ content, I’d argue that he’s still perfectly useful. Do y’all actually use all five slots on your team for this stuff? I regularly end up bringing synergy champs to boost up a primary lane clearer/boss killer. For things like Winter of Woe where you get only one or three champions, we come back to the limitations on his Danger without synergy, which I agree with OP on.
I was one of the people on the other thread arguing that Blade is “solid.” I stand by that, but I think y’all are putting a lot more weight on that adjective than I am. He’s a serviceable champion. If you want to invest in him, you’ll see some cool stuff, but not enough to make him worth investing in over many other skill champions. He’s somebody I’d be very happy to see from a basic crystal, but very unhappy to see from a Titan.
To address your points, I'm not really getting the alternate relic suggestion. I do still think the best solution would be putting the ghost rider synergy into his base kit and adding a vampire section (to incorporate morb). They can lump ghost rider into the stark spidey synergy as an alternative synergy partner. That wouldn't be game breaking in the slightest, yet it would do so much for blade as a champ. They can keep the mephisto one as a separate synergy. He's fine without answering to bleed immunity if his danger sense has more range imo. While I don't see kabam doing anything at the moment, it's such a minor tweak that I hope they take note of it.
Next, I only run 2/5 deep wounds as I can't really find myself sacrificing my current setup to fuel extra points in there. I'm sure it improves his dmg, but he'll still be underwhelming regardless imo (without danger sense).
I don't do T1 war, but I can see how he'd be more useful there as alliances are way more coordinated and lanes/fights are assigned. That way you can take blade-only fights and can afford to bring support champs for him. Still, having to bring in dead weight support is a bummer.
And yes, I do use all 5 slots on my team lol. It might be an OCD thing but I also like to bring in 5 different classes when possible. Repeating classes feels like a faux pas to me, it's just personal preference tbh. For some quests, you might be able to squeeze in a ghost rider with blade, but again I'd rather take 2 separate champs that can do those fights, so I can keep one as backup.
I guess the term "solid" has a different weight to each player. For me, a solid champ is one I'd find myself using at some point. Either as a main attacker for a quest/ backup for the main attacker. They would find themselves on my team/ they are good enough and enjoyable enough that I'd go out of my way to use them. As it stands, I can't see that for blade. The danger sense range is far too limited and he offers nothing outside it (nothing that other champs cannot offer). A serviceable champ to me would be one that I use when I have no other options (a make-do champ, a stopgap of sorts). Blade would fit into that category, which might align with your definition of solid, I guess. We can agree to have our differences there.
Utilizing the trinity makes him a better 7* than vtd for sure, but without it, I still stand by my take that he's the worst 7* out there.
I opened 4 current titan crystals so far and got 3 freaking Blade in a row (the first one is Dust)
I did have 7* stark spidey but he is undup and Ghost Rider is useless now. And strangely enough, I don’t even have 6* Ghost Rider even if I have almost all 6* in the game. (Besides the upcoming feature ones like Spiderpunk, only lack Punisher, Psylocke, GhostRider and original Ironfist)
Finally, someone agrees with me. He's the worst 7*. People were defending him like he was the best champion in the game in my discussion. The more people will get him, the more people will understand how bad he is. Even with a danger sense, he's not game-changing. His AAR is 40%. It's not high at all.
Blades nowhere near the worst 7*, but he is a bad 7*, he has barely any utility, his regen isn't ever going to be meaningful, his bleeds are his only utility, and like you said, his synergies are on fodder you can't afford to waste spaces on. Pretty laughable for a champion that was gamebreaking 5-6 years ago, an easy fix to at least improve him would be a synergy with a viable champion that turns his bleeds into ruptures against bleed immune champs, but still have them act as bleeds/extended via deep wounds. Wouldn't break the game but would at least make him decently viable.
Nowhere near the worst? My guy who's the worst then? Infact I'd actually like to see your top 10 worst 7* list
Blade without synergy is useless and blade with synergy is not a top 10 Skill champ in the game. Leave sentiment aside he really is a bad pool in Titan or basic.
Worst is entirely subjective. People seem to be trying to force Blade into the 'worst' spot, and other players are keeping him in the 'Mid' spot.
Can't you just accept that some players consider Blade a trash pull and others consider it a perfectly okay pull?
Fwiw, I consider Hawkeye to be the worst 7-star champion (for me). I had the misfortune of pulling him awhile ago (as well as a Titan Thing, but that doesn't matter). A 6-star Kate Bishop does everything I'd need from an archer, and more. I have no use for him, even in Arenas, as his neither his Prestige nor his playstyle are good enough for mindless grinding. Unlike Blade, who at least has AAR, there are no matchups where I'd want to take in my Hawkeye over any other champion.
I know for a fact that there will be many people who consider Hawkeye a decent champion, to possibly even good. But that doesn't matter to me at all, since it is all subjective, and I know other players consider VtD the worst.
When you're comparing Blade vs VtD, most of these comments make a mistake. There's no purpose in taking a matchup like Colossus and stating "VtD is better in these situations" because VtD being 230th best champ instead of the 235th best champ for the fight is not relevant to which champion is better, as you would never use either of them.
On the other hand, Blade has situations where you can absolutely say he's a top 5 option for a fight, where you cannot say that about VtD in essentially any scenario.
Worst is entirely subjective. People seem to be trying to force Blade into the 'worst' spot, and other players are keeping him in the 'Mid' spot.
Can't you just accept that some players consider Blade a trash pull and others consider it a perfectly okay pull?
Fwiw, I consider Hawkeye to be the worst 7-star champion (for me). I had the misfortune of pulling him awhile ago (as well as a Titan Thing, but that doesn't matter). A 6-star Kate Bishop does everything I'd need from an archer, and more. I have no use for him, even in Arenas, as his neither his Prestige nor his playstyle are good enough for mindless grinding. Unlike Blade, who at least has AAR, there are no matchups where I'd want to take in my Hawkeye over any other champion.
I know for a fact that there will be many people who consider Hawkeye a decent champion, to possibly even good. But that doesn't matter to me at all, since it is all subjective, and I know other players consider VtD the worst.
To be fair at least Hawkeye has slow and power drain that works in way more matchups than whatever blade does. His damage isn't too bad when duped also.
Worst is entirely subjective. People seem to be trying to force Blade into the 'worst' spot, and other players are keeping him in the 'Mid' spot.
Can't you just accept that some players consider Blade a trash pull and others consider it a perfectly okay pull?
Fwiw, I consider Hawkeye to be the worst 7-star champion (for me). I had the misfortune of pulling him awhile ago (as well as a Titan Thing, but that doesn't matter). A 6-star Kate Bishop does everything I'd need from an archer, and more. I have no use for him, even in Arenas, as his neither his Prestige nor his playstyle are good enough for mindless grinding. Unlike Blade, who at least has AAR, there are no matchups where I'd want to take in my Hawkeye over any other champion.
I know for a fact that there will be many people who consider Hawkeye a decent champion, to possibly even good. But that doesn't matter to me at all, since it is all subjective, and I know other players consider VtD the worst.
To be fair at least Hawkeye has slow and power drain that works in way more matchups than whatever blade does. His damage isn't too bad when duped also.
I got a duped hawkeye, but blade is way better for most BG fights than Hawkeye. I think people forget how potent his power gain with bleeds are so you can spam multiple sp2s before even needing to bait a single special from the opponent.
Is blade an absolute end-all win-all champion? No. But he isn't a half bad champion either. I used to need to ban fantman just because of all his garbage (I also don't have hulkling or Valk in my deck), but now I hope they draft fantman so I can use blade against him. He also is way better vs Maestro than most champions that don't counter him due to 5/5 Deep Wounds and sp2 spam. Again, he isn't an amazing champion, but he is far from a bad champion. If the worst 7* in the pool is someone like blade, then that means the 7* pool is in amazing shape compared to 6*s and below.
The black widow relic helps his damage a bit when he can reduce ability accuracy in longer fights. I’ve got the 7* at r1 and 6* at r5 sig 200 (mainly out of nostalgia).
Worst is entirely subjective. People seem to be trying to force Blade into the 'worst' spot, and other players are keeping him in the 'Mid' spot.
Can't you just accept that some players consider Blade a trash pull and others consider it a perfectly okay pull?
Fwiw, I consider Hawkeye to be the worst 7-star champion (for me). I had the misfortune of pulling him awhile ago (as well as a Titan Thing, but that doesn't matter). A 6-star Kate Bishop does everything I'd need from an archer, and more. I have no use for him, even in Arenas, as his neither his Prestige nor his playstyle are good enough for mindless grinding. Unlike Blade, who at least has AAR, there are no matchups where I'd want to take in my Hawkeye over any other champion.
I know for a fact that there will be many people who consider Hawkeye a decent champion, to possibly even good. But that doesn't matter to me at all, since it is all subjective, and I know other players consider VtD the worst.
Hawkeye has slow, has good critical bleed damage when duped, has power drain on sp1, he’s good.
VtD gets way too much hate. He needs Sig, and he's good for Questing. He's never been a short fight option..
This, however and also he’s annoying to ramp up because it all relies on RNG. Being a ramp up champ also limits him greatly in Battlegrounds where speed and health is the key to victory. At least Blade can be used in BGs
VtD gets way too much hate. He needs Sig, and he's good for Questing. He's never been a short fight option..
VtD’s problem is that he was designed for content that doesn’t exist anymore. Once Kabam shifted their design focus in questing towards Six Fights and a Boss, VtD became obsolete. Air Walker kinda had a similar problem, because the payoff of having a champ up and running for three fights just wasn’t worth the slog of getting them there.
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it’s vtd imo- absolutely useless and unlike blade you can’t pair him with other champs to make him viable
Maybe someone else can try a r1 or 2 blade to prove your point but I doubt it will.
I don't have anything personal against blade man I love him, he was my first featured used the trinity a lot but.. it's not 2017 anymore. So when people just claim he's a solid pull it's simply not true
This is about blade being the worst 7* and my arguments for it. "Then don't use him" lmao, tell me you didn't read the thread without telling me you didn't read the thread.
I opened 4 current titan crystals so far and got 3 freaking Blade in a row (the first one is Dust)
I did have 7* stark spidey but he is undup and Ghost Rider is useless now. And strangely enough, I don’t even have 6* Ghost Rider even if I have almost all 6* in the game. (Besides the upcoming feature ones like Spiderpunk, only lack Punisher, Psylocke, GhostRider and original Ironfist)
First, totally agree that Blade against a bleed immune non-dimensional champ is going to be a bad time. Just straight miserable.
Second, I saw in a follow up post something about incorporating synergies into his base kit and while I don’t think Kabam would do that, I do think there’s another way to handle it: Relics. Give a relic that can substitute for his synergies to widen his usefulness. Call it Dracula’s Fang or something, make it an alternative relic type to Strikers, and we’re off to the races. And yes, it would add Morbius to his Danger Sense because I agree it’s silly to not have the only vampire in the game not set this off.
I have a question about the conclusions reached on Blade’s damage. How many levels of Deep Wounds, if any, are those complaining about his damage running? He really demands 5/5, but that’s not uncommon for bleed champs. If you’re running less than that, he’s gonna have feather down hands.
When it comes to his usefulness in PvP content, that’s a very difficult question. He’s a champ that really lives and dies by the meta. He was a monster on attack in the Sugar Pill/Decay meta. I was doing T1 AW during that time, and 6* R5 Blades were extremely common, some even ascended. He was extremely meta relevant during that time, and it’s only a matter of time before the meta cycles back to him as an attacker in PvP content.
As for PvE, it depends on what modes we’re talking about. For endurance content, he hasn’t been relevant since we were using the 5* to tackle the Labyrinth. For Story/EQ content, I’d argue that he’s still perfectly useful. Do y’all actually use all five slots on your team for this stuff? I regularly end up bringing synergy champs to boost up a primary lane clearer/boss killer. For things like Winter of Woe where you get only one or three champions, we come back to the limitations on his Danger without synergy, which I agree with OP on.
I was one of the people on the other thread arguing that Blade is “solid.” I stand by that, but I think y’all are putting a lot more weight on that adjective than I am. He’s a serviceable champion. If you want to invest in him, you’ll see some cool stuff, but not enough to make him worth investing in over many other skill champions. He’s somebody I’d be very happy to see from a basic crystal, but very unhappy to see from a Titan.
Also he is a tactic defender in GC, so if you don't get an X-magika attacker, then you're going to have to be blocking his entire specials.
Next, I only run 2/5 deep wounds as I can't really find myself sacrificing my current setup to fuel extra points in there. I'm sure it improves his dmg, but he'll still be underwhelming regardless imo (without danger sense).
I don't do T1 war, but I can see how he'd be more useful there as alliances are way more coordinated and lanes/fights are assigned. That way you can take blade-only fights and can afford to bring support champs for him. Still, having to bring in dead weight support is a bummer.
And yes, I do use all 5 slots on my team lol. It might be an OCD thing but I also like to bring in 5 different classes when possible. Repeating classes feels like a faux pas to me, it's just personal preference tbh. For some quests, you might be able to squeeze in a ghost rider with blade, but again I'd rather take 2 separate champs that can do those fights, so I can keep one as backup.
I guess the term "solid" has a different weight to each player. For me, a solid champ is one I'd find myself using at some point. Either as a main attacker for a quest/ backup for the main attacker. They would find themselves on my team/ they are good enough and enjoyable enough that I'd go out of my way to use them. As it stands, I can't see that for blade. The danger sense range is far too limited and he offers nothing outside it (nothing that other champs cannot offer). A serviceable champ to me would be one that I use when I have no other options (a make-do champ, a stopgap of sorts). Blade would fit into that category, which might align with your definition of solid, I guess. We can agree to have our differences there.
Utilizing the trinity makes him a better 7* than vtd for sure, but without it, I still stand by my take that he's the worst 7* out there.
Can't you just accept that some players consider Blade a trash pull and others consider it a perfectly okay pull?
Fwiw, I consider Hawkeye to be the worst 7-star champion (for me). I had the misfortune of pulling him awhile ago (as well as a Titan Thing, but that doesn't matter). A 6-star Kate Bishop does everything I'd need from an archer, and more. I have no use for him, even in Arenas, as his neither his Prestige nor his playstyle are good enough for mindless grinding. Unlike Blade, who at least has AAR, there are no matchups where I'd want to take in my Hawkeye over any other champion.
I know for a fact that there will be many people who consider Hawkeye a decent champion, to possibly even good. But that doesn't matter to me at all, since it is all subjective, and I know other players consider VtD the worst.
On the other hand, Blade has situations where you can absolutely say he's a top 5 option for a fight, where you cannot say that about VtD in essentially any scenario.
Is blade an absolute end-all win-all champion? No. But he isn't a half bad champion either. I used to need to ban fantman just because of all his garbage (I also don't have hulkling or Valk in my deck), but now I hope they draft fantman so I can use blade against him. He also is way better vs Maestro than most champions that don't counter him due to 5/5 Deep Wounds and sp2 spam. Again, he isn't an amazing champion, but he is far from a bad champion. If the worst 7* in the pool is someone like blade, then that means the 7* pool is in amazing shape compared to 6*s and below.