I thought the defenders are only from Skill and Cosmic? I saw people facing Absorbingman and WeaponX. They can create roadblock easily with combination of some nodes and we can’t use non saga champs.
“Themed Zones - All Sectors
Themed Zones will showcase new Bosses and defending champion pools.
The new bosses will be: Gladiator (Cosmic) and Kraven (Skill). These bosses will stay after the Saga event ends until the next Saga update. The Defending champion pools will showcase the entirety of the Cosmic & Skill rosters minus the cut list of defenders, a total of 93 champions.”
I thought the defenders are only from Skill and Cosmic? I saw people facing Absorbingman and WeaponX. They can create roadblock easily with combination of some nodes and we can’t use non saga champs.
“Themed Zones - All Sectors
Themed Zones will showcase new Bosses and defending champion pools.
The new bosses will be: Gladiator (Cosmic) and Kraven (Skill). These bosses will stay after the Saga event ends until the next Saga update. The Defending champion pools will showcase the entirety of the Cosmic & Skill rosters minus the cut list of defenders, a total of 93 champions.”
I was thinking the same thing, I fought a stacked weapon x on a regen node which made him almost impossible to kill. I have been struggling to get past room 10 in sector 7 without proper science champs for hard mystics and tech champs for some of the mutant class. @Kabam Miike where we just suppose to get all cosmic and mystic champs on defense? just wondering based on how its written I could of miss understood clarification would be nice. Also if anyone has any good team suggestion's please help.
****. X magic a concept sucks. Cancer has spreaded to other parts of the game. No more incursions. Also it takes way too long to gather 400 k to pull a 7 star , like months. Thus not really worth my time.
I understand the bracketing, however normal Tier 1 players would get access to Sector 4 to 6.
Sector 4 is more accessible for a lot of players.
With Kabam removing access to Sector 4 and replace it with access to Sector 7, which is much harder. It does push the challenges to Tier 1 players unnecessarily, really Tier 1 players should have access to Sector 4 to 7.
This is one miserable experience, I spent 1k units and all my reserved Incursions heals/Revives only top quit out at Zone 21.
I spent 3 hours trying to get runs started testing things until I finally made it past Zone 9, and then things were going okay, but still not perfect.
Then on floor 21 I had a Sasquatch boss with Tenacity - 2 Twice, and some other nodes and there is nothing in the range of tactic champs that I could come up with to beat him, seeing as I couldn't void down a Sasquatch that could shrug pretty much every debuff ever, and then I couldn't find any way to control the healing in the other choices because of the mods.
I too thought that this was a limited set of defenders to make sure that the tactic attackers could do them, but it seems that was poorly explained.
I found this event to just be RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG that has very little the player can do to mitigate it because the player is forced to play a small handful of champs.
I don't think I am going to even attempt another run unless we get some serious changes made to this event because as it stands this is harder than doing a path in Necropolis and on top of that we have to deal with RNG just randomly bricking a run so spending any units is risky.
If I added up the cost to actually purchase all the heals/revives I used in my failed attempt I would guess it was over 3k units. Usually when we have these Incursions events there are ways to spend SQ currency on supplies, this time we are stuck only using units.
All in all this was a poorly thought out event that I feel is only accessibly to the very very top end players and even then its going to cost them if they are unlucky.
Please stop saying it's optional content. If you want 7* NC then you have to do it... It's not as if you could skip it with no consequences. Also, what about incursions revives or potions deals like we had in the past? It seems to me that with the "Saga" thematic the incursions got extra difficult since you don't have access to your usual incursions team so why not do the same deals?
Please stop saying it's optional content. If you want 7* NC then you have to do it... It's not as if you could skip it with no consequences. Also, what about incursions revives or potions deals like we had in the past? It seems to me that with the "Saga" thematic the incursions got extra difficult since you don't have access to your usual incursions team so why not do the same deals?
Have you tried with an 'unusual' team yet...? I think you will be surprised what others are capable of instead of using the usual Herc, Aegon, etc...
Have you tried with an 'unusual' team yet...? I think you will be surprised what others are capable of instead of using the usual Herc, Aegon, etc...
I'm not saying it's not impossible just that maybe they should consider bringing back the incursion potions/revives deals. I mean, the cost of those things is insane and you can only buy them with units...
I got a Kraven boss with 50% of life degen (then regen after 12 seconds) but with a heal block node... So I had to used like 230 units EACH try My run to zone 25 was no fun. I used 4000 units in total.
I got a Kraven boss with 50% of life degen (then regen after 12 seconds) but with a heal block node... So I had to used like 230 units EACH try My run to zone 25 was no fun. I used 4000 units in total.
I think Kabam might be happy as this could have been their intention
I'm a valiant player and I can tell you guys it's another RNG fiesta, if you're unlucky with nodes it's going to cost you more than necropolis and difference is in necropolis you will still be able to finish it but in saga incursion you always have a chance to get stuck on a later zone with no other option than to quit and start over. Heavy-baiter protection where you are forced to take hits on block and on higher zones you just die from block damage. Then there are node combinations like prove yourself and Aspect of nightmares. Nah I ain't spending 600 units to heal one champ to 50% health. Either make the incursion revive & potions % based or give us event exclusive revive and potions with mysterium or other currency when introducing events like these. I got stuck and have no other option than to quit on zone 20
any node like "Aspect of nightmares" that makes you take degen should be banned from incursions... Most of the times you are below 50% health so it's just a unit fiesta at that point given how costly incursions potions and revives are. Stop being greedy Kabam, bring back the incursion potions/revives deal!
any node like "Aspect of nightmares" that makes you take degen should be banned from incursions... Most of the times you are below 50% health so it's just a unit fiesta at that point given how costly incursions potions and revives are. Stop being greedy Kabam, bring back the incursion potions/revives deal!
So much for nothing I guess ... Sym supreme boss, insta kill at the start of the fight in all 3x champions. Absolutely nothing that can be done ... Sucks this had to happen 1 room away from finishing it
Update: I dumped units to heal up and got past zone 20 only to face a misty knight Boss with 1.4M health on zone 21 and Biohazard. Now even healing up doesn't work. Good job kabam!
Done with he run with thing. 6 revives and few potions....... But
BUT: Where is the damn "Revive Store" for such restrictive champion pool. I see people raging over some node combos and bleed poison coldsnap tearing though the attackers.
I struggle to understand why sector 4 had to go as if the rewards would be too much, it just seems like an unnecessary give and take thing just cause. And for that matter, being that the higher the progression level, the worst the rewards are for lower sectors, I also dont understand why they aren’t always open as well. This game has a lot of unnecessary gate keeping at times
So much for nothing I guess ... Sym supreme boss, insta kill at the start of the fight in all 3x champions. Absolutely nothing that can be done ... Sucks this had to happen 1 room away from finishing it
Swap in someone who don't gain any buffs on the start, like domihoe, or thing (he is stagger immune too). there are plenty of options. You shouldn't have quitted after going that long
Man, I miss being able to get a few "high level revives and potions" from the MQ store. I'm on room 17... and not sure if I want to spend all the units needed to continue, especially after blowing what I had on the Omega event.
Kabam, I've never thrown my phone before (for any game), but today was the first time I've ever thrown my phone because incursions just made me that upset Incursions genuinely is my favorite gamemode, but this has bothered me enough to where I feel like putting the game down for the day (and it's morning time right now).
I had around 4200 units (that I grinded for) when I started my incursion sector 7 run, and now I have 3123 units at zone 17. I was having a perfect incursion run, and didn't even spend a single unit until I reached zone 15. Zone 15 is when I faced against something more absurd than Winter of Woe Absorbing Man bruh. In my incursion run, my main source of damage was coming from power stings. I had to fight against a Yondu boss with caltrops, no retreat, brawl, and mighty charge. You tell me how the heck am I supposed to fight against this? I have to dash back because he has a larger reach due to his arrow, but if I dash back I get a bleed put on me that takes out 4% of my health per tick. If he throws 2 attacks then I have to dash back two times, and now recieve 2 bleeds and a degen as well. If I decide to block or if my pary fails and it counts as a block (because he throws a medium attack), then I have a bleed placed on me anyway that does even more damage than if I dashed back. I have to stack power stings on the defender to do damage, but if he dashes forward, then he removes all of the power sting debuffs I place on him. There were a few times I was able to push him to SP1 with power stings, but that would ultimately get me killed for doing the right thing. When he throws his special attack, I have to pick my poison on how I die to him. Either I dash back and die to bleeds and degen or I let him hit my block with his special attack and die because of the absurd damage he deals. Even when I was able to manage all of this one time, 10 seconds passed and then the brawl node activated, so yondu just bum rushed me and killed me. Even if I did dodge him...I would take bleed and degen damage, and I would have to keep dashing backwards while hes unstoppable. I had to manage all of this with low health on all 3 champions too, so dashing back 1 or 2 times would be enough to have a guarenteed death sentence.
The sad thing is, I was stupid enough to think it was just one bad node set, and I pushed forward. I spent hundreds and hundreds of units just to beat him. When I beat him, the very next zone gave me the most rediculous kraven fight ever. I still pushed forward from that, after spending even more units. Now here I am, genuinely stuck in zone 17 against a titania with Aegis (intercept) 3. I can't heal myself without spending over 500 units, so I have to fight against her with only a level 1 revive and hope she doesn't touch me with a feather. At the same time, I have tointercept her 3 times so I can actually do damage. Another fight in this room is against a Nimrod with poison vulnerability. Are you serious? You can't even poison him bruh .-. How can the AI not detect that???????
Yesterday I saw a rhino with Dismay 3 and Aegis (Intercept) 3 too bruh. (I have screenshots of him, the Yondu, and the titania btw in case yall need proof.)
You guys always say "you don't have to do it", but this year you guys have made the game to where you have to do everything or else you'll be far behind everybody else. "You don't have to" grind battlegrounds, play repetitive event quests, or rank up champions you don't like in order to complete meta content like AW Showcase and Winter of Woe, but if you want Deathless King Groot, Runestones/7* Nightcrawler, the chance of obtaining a powerful 7*, or even the ability to rank up champions, then you have to play in the most enraging content possible. With battlegrounds, its at a point where you have to have R2 or R3 7* champions, Ascended rank 5 6* champions, or the cheesiest defenders possible in order to even win or have a good battlegrounds season. The only way we can obtain this stuff is by playing in these absurd events that "you don't have to do".
I was genuinely hyped to know there was a sector 7 coming and with extremely good rewards, but this discourages me so much that it's hard for me to like this incursion. Like you guys said, I "don't have to do" it, but if I want to have a chance to stand my ground in battlegrounds, have good defenders in AW, or even be able to advance my account even further, then I have to do this. Kabam, please make it possible for me to even be able to complete this incursion. Thank you for taking your time to read this, and have a good day.
What happened with this incursions event? Previously we had access to all sectors and I really enjoyed getting the extra artifacts. On top of that, Sector 4 no longer gives me any rewards because I can only do sectors 5-7. So the difficulty has actually been raised this month. And I can't use the champs I usually use like Kitty and Herc which are great for their survivability for sector 7. Also, whenever we've had incursions themed sidequest we were also able to purchase quite a few revives (not using units) for the mode.
@venombomb posion vulnerability Nimrod and aegis intercept rhino are wild💀 I guess the only thing you could do for rhino would be - take void and get the slow up but it's rng dependant - take Zemo and launch 2 sp2 so he can't go unstoppable - use Kingpin and when unstoppable you can use unstoppable intercept to do it - I genuinely don't remember if Kate's evade counts as intercepts so idk if she works but the other 3 should do it
For the Nimrod, well you can still do like normal damage so the vulnerability shouldn't matter
But I agree between the unnecessary and useless hack were being forced to choose, the limited pool of champs and the nodes combinations being practically impossible to do, sec 7 incursions are actually harder than Necropolis completion.
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“Themed Zones - All Sectors
Themed Zones will showcase new Bosses and defending champion pools.
The new bosses will be: Gladiator (Cosmic) and Kraven (Skill). These bosses will stay after the Saga event ends until the next Saga update.
The Defending champion pools will showcase the entirety of the Cosmic & Skill rosters minus the cut list of defenders, a total of 93 champions.”
No more incursions.
Also it takes way too long to gather 400 k to pull a 7 star , like months. Thus not really worth my time.
I understand the bracketing, however normal Tier 1 players would get access to Sector 4 to 6.
Sector 4 is more accessible for a lot of players.
With Kabam removing access to Sector 4 and replace it with access to Sector 7, which is much harder. It does push the challenges to Tier 1 players unnecessarily, really Tier 1 players should have access to Sector 4 to 7.
Seem like a miscalculation from Kabam.
I spent 3 hours trying to get runs started testing things until I finally made it past Zone 9, and then things were going okay, but still not perfect.
Then on floor 21 I had a Sasquatch boss with Tenacity - 2 Twice, and some other nodes and there is nothing in the range of tactic champs that I could come up with to beat him, seeing as I couldn't void down a Sasquatch that could shrug pretty much every debuff ever, and then I couldn't find any way to control the healing in the other choices because of the mods.
I too thought that this was a limited set of defenders to make sure that the tactic attackers could do them, but it seems that was poorly explained.
I found this event to just be RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG that has very little the player can do to mitigate it because the player is forced to play a small handful of champs.
I don't think I am going to even attempt another run unless we get some serious changes made to this event because as it stands this is harder than doing a path in Necropolis and on top of that we have to deal with RNG just randomly bricking a run so spending any units is risky.
If I added up the cost to actually purchase all the heals/revives I used in my failed attempt I would guess it was over 3k units. Usually when we have these Incursions events there are ways to spend SQ currency on supplies, this time we are stuck only using units.
All in all this was a poorly thought out event that I feel is only accessibly to the very very top end players and even then its going to cost them if they are unlucky.
Also, what about incursions revives or potions deals like we had in the past?
It seems to me that with the "Saga" thematic the incursions got extra difficult since you don't have access to your usual incursions team so why not do the same deals?
I mean, the cost of those things is insane and you can only buy them with units...
My run to zone 25 was no fun. I used 4000 units in total.
Woh between, this, AW Showcase and CCP Mojo challenge, it really make me wonder why I even playing this "game".
Heavy-baiter protection where you are forced to take hits on block and on higher zones you just die from block damage.
Then there are node combinations like prove yourself and Aspect of nightmares. Nah I ain't spending 600 units to heal one champ to 50% health. Either make the incursion revive & potions % based or give us event exclusive revive and potions with mysterium or other currency when introducing events like these.
I got stuck and have no other option than to quit on zone 20
Most of the times you are below 50% health so it's just a unit fiesta at that point given how costly incursions potions and revives are.
Stop being greedy Kabam, bring back the incursion potions/revives deal!
I already had to restart 3 times due to it, and now reaching zone 22 have already had 3x Freezer Burn and 2x Biohazard bosses. Like come on ...
Sucks this had to happen 1 room away from finishing it
BUT:
Where is the damn "Revive Store" for such restrictive champion pool.
I see people raging over some node combos and bleed poison coldsnap tearing though the attackers.
I had around 4200 units (that I grinded for) when I started my incursion sector 7 run, and now I have 3123 units at zone 17. I was having a perfect incursion run, and didn't even spend a single unit until I reached zone 15. Zone 15 is when I faced against something more absurd than Winter of Woe Absorbing Man bruh. In my incursion run, my main source of damage was coming from power stings. I had to fight against a Yondu boss with caltrops, no retreat, brawl, and mighty charge. You tell me how the heck am I supposed to fight against this? I have to dash back because he has a larger reach due to his arrow, but if I dash back I get a bleed put on me that takes out 4% of my health per tick. If he throws 2 attacks then I have to dash back two times, and now recieve 2 bleeds and a degen as well. If I decide to block or if my pary fails and it counts as a block (because he throws a medium attack), then I have a bleed placed on me anyway that does even more damage than if I dashed back. I have to stack power stings on the defender to do damage, but if he dashes forward, then he removes all of the power sting debuffs I place on him. There were a few times I was able to push him to SP1 with power stings, but that would ultimately get me killed for doing the right thing. When he throws his special attack, I have to pick my poison on how I die to him. Either I dash back and die to bleeds and degen or I let him hit my block with his special attack and die because of the absurd damage he deals. Even when I was able to manage all of this one time, 10 seconds passed and then the brawl node activated, so yondu just bum rushed me and killed me. Even if I did dodge him...I would take bleed and degen damage, and I would have to keep dashing backwards while hes unstoppable. I had to manage all of this with low health on all 3 champions too, so dashing back 1 or 2 times would be enough to have a guarenteed death sentence.
The sad thing is, I was stupid enough to think it was just one bad node set, and I pushed forward. I spent hundreds and hundreds of units just to beat him. When I beat him, the very next zone gave me the most rediculous kraven fight ever. I still pushed forward from that, after spending even more units. Now here I am, genuinely stuck in zone 17 against a titania with Aegis (intercept) 3. I can't heal myself without spending over 500 units, so I have to fight against her with only a level 1 revive and hope she doesn't touch me with a feather. At the same time, I have tointercept her 3 times so I can actually do damage. Another fight in this room is against a Nimrod with poison vulnerability. Are you serious? You can't even poison him bruh .-. How can the AI not detect that???????
Yesterday I saw a rhino with Dismay 3 and Aegis (Intercept) 3 too bruh. (I have screenshots of him, the Yondu, and the titania btw in case yall need proof.)
You guys always say "you don't have to do it", but this year you guys have made the game to where you have to do everything or else you'll be far behind everybody else. "You don't have to" grind battlegrounds, play repetitive event quests, or rank up champions you don't like in order to complete meta content like AW Showcase and Winter of Woe, but if you want Deathless King Groot, Runestones/7* Nightcrawler, the chance of obtaining a powerful 7*, or even the ability to rank up champions, then you have to play in the most enraging content possible. With battlegrounds, its at a point where you have to have R2 or R3 7* champions, Ascended rank 5 6* champions, or the cheesiest defenders possible in order to even win or have a good battlegrounds season. The only way we can obtain this stuff is by playing in these absurd events that "you don't have to do".
I was genuinely hyped to know there was a sector 7 coming and with extremely good rewards, but this discourages me so much that it's hard for me to like this incursion. Like you guys said, I "don't have to do" it, but if I want to have a chance to stand my ground in battlegrounds, have good defenders in AW, or even be able to advance my account even further, then I have to do this. Kabam, please make it possible for me to even be able to complete this incursion. Thank you for taking your time to read this, and have a good day.
On top of that, Sector 4 no longer gives me any rewards because I can only do sectors 5-7. So the difficulty has actually been raised this month. And I can't use the champs I usually use like Kitty and Herc which are great for their survivability for sector 7.
Also, whenever we've had incursions themed sidequest we were also able to purchase quite a few revives (not using units) for the mode.
I guess the only thing you could do for rhino would be
- take void and get the slow up but it's rng dependant
- take Zemo and launch 2 sp2 so he can't go unstoppable
- use Kingpin and when unstoppable you can use unstoppable intercept to do it
- I genuinely don't remember if Kate's evade counts as intercepts so idk if she works but the other 3 should do it
For the Nimrod, well you can still do like normal damage so the vulnerability shouldn't matter
But I agree between the unnecessary and useless hack were being forced to choose, the limited pool of champs and the nodes combinations being practically impossible to do, sec 7 incursions are actually harder than Necropolis completion.