bradshaw84 wrote: » So in lamens terms, it’s back to the old days of only those who spend a small fortune can get new champs before us peasants who attempt to earn them instead? @Kabam Miike fair play to you for keeping a straight face lol. Kabam Miike wrote: » bradshaw84 wrote: » Sorry to repeat @Kabam Miike but could you clarify, this seems insane if I’ve got this right... So am I understanding this right, when a new champ is released in 4* arena it could potentially be almost 3 months before he’s available as a 5* in a featured crystal at a 1 in 24 chance if his arena is early in the 3 month cycle? Yes, this is correct. You will be able to win them in the Grandmaster Featured Hero Crystal, but some Champions will not make it into the Featured Hero Crystal for some time.
Kabam Miike wrote: » bradshaw84 wrote: » Sorry to repeat @Kabam Miike but could you clarify, this seems insane if I’ve got this right... So am I understanding this right, when a new champ is released in 4* arena it could potentially be almost 3 months before he’s available as a 5* in a featured crystal at a 1 in 24 chance if his arena is early in the 3 month cycle? Yes, this is correct. You will be able to win them in the Grandmaster Featured Hero Crystal, but some Champions will not make it into the Featured Hero Crystal for some time.
bradshaw84 wrote: » Sorry to repeat @Kabam Miike but could you clarify, this seems insane if I’ve got this right... So am I understanding this right, when a new champ is released in 4* arena it could potentially be almost 3 months before he’s available as a 5* in a featured crystal at a 1 in 24 chance if his arena is early in the 3 month cycle?
rwhack wrote: » Here’s a solution. Quit making terrible champs.
Ron_H wrote: » lol if you carefully read it..it the intentions are verry clear. people saved up 5* shards and got the newest champ as 5* for free. Now you can only get the newest 5* champs version from grandmaster featured crystal.. so with other words no more free featured 5*..now you have to spend 300 units for each crystal if you want the 5* version of the new released champ.
Kabam Miike wrote: » EvilEmpire wrote: » I’m curious if the crystal is being changed because the feature has never been a fair shake for everyone and they don’t want to reveal that it had fluctuating odds based on an unknown set of variable that probably includes money spent. I knew this would come up! No, this is not the case. We've planned this for a little while, and to be fair, players have been Community Sourcing drop rates on the 5-Star Featured Hero Crystal for quite some time, and they have always been consistent.
EvilEmpire wrote: » I’m curious if the crystal is being changed because the feature has never been a fair shake for everyone and they don’t want to reveal that it had fluctuating odds based on an unknown set of variable that probably includes money spent.
Dagonelle wrote: » Kabam Miike wrote: » BitterSteel wrote: » So the new featured crystal is just a new version of the basic crystal that costs 5000 shards more? What’s the point? The only way that the new featured crystal is better than the old one is if the old featured crystal had odds worse than 1 in 18 which is what the new one is. I’ve got to say I’m disappointed The original Featured Hero Crystal had one purpose, and that was because it was originally the only chance you had at a 5-Star Champion, and potentially meant that the Champion would never come around again. This has changed, and that means that this Crystal has run its course. 5-Star Champions are coming to a place where they are now added to the regular Champion pool at the same consistency as other rarities. Riiiiiiiggghhhtttt..... And it has zero to do with Apple's new rule on disclosing rates in drop boxes...
Kabam Miike wrote: » BitterSteel wrote: » So the new featured crystal is just a new version of the basic crystal that costs 5000 shards more? What’s the point? The only way that the new featured crystal is better than the old one is if the old featured crystal had odds worse than 1 in 18 which is what the new one is. I’ve got to say I’m disappointed The original Featured Hero Crystal had one purpose, and that was because it was originally the only chance you had at a 5-Star Champion, and potentially meant that the Champion would never come around again. This has changed, and that means that this Crystal has run its course. 5-Star Champions are coming to a place where they are now added to the regular Champion pool at the same consistency as other rarities.
BitterSteel wrote: » So the new featured crystal is just a new version of the basic crystal that costs 5000 shards more? What’s the point? The only way that the new featured crystal is better than the old one is if the old featured crystal had odds worse than 1 in 18 which is what the new one is. I’ve got to say I’m disappointed
Eccohawk wrote: » So it seems a lot of people seem to be lacking any forward thinking here. My assumption is that in addition to this crystal being changed, they're likely also looking at how they plan to introduce a 6-star crystal, and plan to market that as the new hotness, rather than continue to promote 5-star champs as heavily. 1/24 ain't great, but it's not terrible either. Right now if you're shooting for a specific 4-star champ it's something like 1/100+. So I think perhaps it's slightly premature to claim that the sky is falling.
TheGodfather wrote: » Old System: ~20-25% chance to get desired Featured Champ Immediate Chance to spin for Featured Champ the moment they are released New System: LESS THAN 5% chance to get desired Featured Champ up to 3 MONTHS WAITING for Chance to spin for Featured Champ after they are released Seriously, how is this a better system? Give us better odds for Featured champs and let us wait less. We deserve that at the least.
Kabam Miike wrote: » Dagonelle wrote: » Kabam Miike wrote: » BitterSteel wrote: » So the new featured crystal is just a new version of the basic crystal that costs 5000 shards more? What’s the point? The only way that the new featured crystal is better than the old one is if the old featured crystal had odds worse than 1 in 18 which is what the new one is. I’ve got to say I’m disappointed The original Featured Hero Crystal had one purpose, and that was because it was originally the only chance you had at a 5-Star Champion, and potentially meant that the Champion would never come around again. This has changed, and that means that this Crystal has run its course. 5-Star Champions are coming to a place where they are now added to the regular Champion pool at the same consistency as other rarities. Riiiiiiiggghhhtttt..... And it has zero to do with Apple's new rule on disclosing rates in drop boxes... Exactly. It has absolutely zero to do with that.
EvilEmpire wrote: » Kabam Miike wrote: » EvilEmpire wrote: » I’m curious if the crystal is being changed because the feature has never been a fair shake for everyone and they don’t want to reveal that it had fluctuating odds based on an unknown set of variable that probably includes money spent. I knew this would come up! No, this is not the case. We've planned this for a little while, and to be fair, players have been Community Sourcing drop rates on the 5-Star Featured Hero Crystal for quite some time, and they have always been consistent. I think we all know the overall drop rate is 20% ish but that doesn’t mean that everyone has the same chance. We all know players that seem to bat 100% and others that have have little or no success on 10-20 attempts. If it was so straghtforward then I think you guys could just come out and say what the odds on those are but the roundabout and choice of wording leads us all to believe that everything is not truly equal.
Siliyo wrote: » DocMcShottie wrote: » Siliyo wrote: » Oh great so Kabam decides to nerf the chances players have at getting Blade. You create a character as great as him yet you change the system to make it more difficult for players to get him. Good job Kabam. Nice work @Kabam Miike You didn’t read at all did you? Blade’s solo featured crystal is coming back, and he’s being added to basic crystal the same month.... read before you post It seems that you did not read either. Blade's solo featured seems to be worse. His new featured will NOT give him an increased chance at obtaining him. It was speculated that it's about a 20-25% chance to get a featured crystal. The NEW featured rate will be less than 5%. Can you tell me how that's better?
DocMcShottie wrote: » Siliyo wrote: » Oh great so Kabam decides to nerf the chances players have at getting Blade. You create a character as great as him yet you change the system to make it more difficult for players to get him. Good job Kabam. Nice work @Kabam Miike You didn’t read at all did you? Blade’s solo featured crystal is coming back, and he’s being added to basic crystal the same month.... read before you post
Siliyo wrote: » Oh great so Kabam decides to nerf the chances players have at getting Blade. You create a character as great as him yet you change the system to make it more difficult for players to get him. Good job Kabam. Nice work @Kabam Miike
Raganator wrote: » I think Kabam will come to regret this decision if the goal is to continue having relevant 15k shard 5* crystals. 1 in 24 is garbage odds. Sure, better than 1 in 80-something, but still.
DNA3000 wrote: » Raganator wrote: » I think Kabam will come to regret this decision if the goal is to continue having relevant 15k shard 5* crystals. 1 in 24 is garbage odds. Sure, better than 1 in 80-something, but still. That depends. If you view the new crystal as *only* lowering the chance for a specific champion, then yes, the odds of pulling one specific champion have dropped from about one in five to one in twenty-four. But that's not the correct way to view this crystal. Even with the current featured crystal, not every champion is really worth saving for, at least for any particular player. You have to think more generally. Right now, I'm saving for Blade because I really want Blade and the 5* featured Blade crystal gives me a 20% shot at getting Blade. But more importantly, that crystal gives me a 20% chance at a champion I think is worth the extra shards. The Iceman crystal also gave me that shot, and the Stark Spidey crystal gave me that shot. You have to look at each and every one of the new 5* featured crystals that way. There are going to be six featureds and eighteen curated basics in each crystal. If the featured list was, say, Sparky, Vulture, Green Goblin, Doc Oc, Kingpin, and Medusa, that would be a pretty valuable crystal. Your odds of getting exactly the one you want are lower, but your odds of getting a good one are pretty decent - and that's before looking at the other eighteen. If the eighteen included, say, X-23, Elektra, Crossbones, Ghost Rider, and Ultron - all solid to great champions - your odds of getting at least a decent 5* could approach 50/50. That might be worth the extra shards. Conversely, if the six featured happen to be a more depleted series and fewer of the curated basics are champs you want, you can skip that crystal and save for the next one. Just like with the current featured 5* crystal, it is not about the odds to pull one particular champion, it is the overall value of the crystal relative to the basic crystal. Depending on what Kabam puts in it and how you value those champions, that value could be lower, or it could be much higher. Its different, and we lose one aspect of the current featured. But that doesn't mean the new one doesn't offer good options relative to the basic. It is just like even with the current featured, we have to see what's in it first. By the time the Blade crystal rolls around I will probably have saved up eight shots at him. Statistically speaking, I'm very likely to get him. If I was shooting to dup him though, the odds are not good: about 29% chance of pulling two out of eight. Someone who opens eight of the new crystals will have about a 73% chance of duping one of the twenty-four champion in that crystal. If you pick the right crystal to shoot for, where a high percentage are champs you want, then duping a random champion in that crystal has a higher chance of being a valuable dup. If you really one a specific champion, then your odds of getting that champion have dropped. But if you really just want a good one, or if you want to avoid pulling "bad" ones, your odds of doing that have likely significantly improved.
