Should synergies be introduced into Battlegrounds?

J0eySn0wJ0eySn0w Member Posts: 980 ★★★★
in General Discussion
I remember when synergies were very important. They even affected the excitement from pulling a champion and whether they were ranked or not. There may be some players that still care about synergies but they’re likely developing account. That said, I think Battlegrounds is arguably the most fun mode in the game at the moment. I think getting synergies to work in this mode may bring some of its excitements back.

How will it work? The 7 champions you pick from your draft will carry their synergies into the fight. This way players could build a synergy team if they want to. This adds some level of complexity and some newness or fresh air to the mode. Both on offense and defense, players will have to be familiar with synergies. This is bad and good depending on individual players.
Anyways, just a thought. Synergies are already a thing in the game so why not make more relevant in the mode most people play.

Should synergies be introduced into Battlegrounds? 149 votes

Yes
11%
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No
84%
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I’m not sure
4%
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Comments

  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 4,408 ★★★★★
    No
    It's not bad or good depending on players, it's just bad.
  • J0eySn0wJ0eySn0w Member Posts: 980 ★★★★
    Dab_west said:

    u trolling or no

    No I’m not. Maybe I missed a discussion on it. But was there reasons why it’s not approved? I’d like to at least see it tried out during off-season.
  • ToniXD_16ToniXD_16 Member Posts: 193 ★
    No
    Theres no way this is a real opinion
  • J0eySn0wJ0eySn0w Member Posts: 980 ★★★★
    Furrymoosen said:

    It's not bad or good depending on players, it's just bad.

    I legit wanna know. Can you elaborate?
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,080 ★★★★★
    No
    J0eySn0w said:

    Dab_west said:

    u trolling or no

    No I’m not. Maybe I missed a discussion on it. But was there reasons why it’s not approved? I’d like to at least see it tried out during off-season.
    How about hemdail one the team boom you didn’t kill with a big sp 2 boom there has the hp back. Bom you dead how fun and complexity. I don’t won’t it. To happen ever oh and blade with gr one the team just destroyed all vilaint before you se. It would make blade great but there is simply way to many complications things to go with it
  • OurobørosOurobøros Member Posts: 1,793 ★★★★★
    No
    How would you have synergies, if you have to put synergy champs together on a team, bg is 1v1, no teams
  • JLordVileJJLordVileJ Member Posts: 4,711 ★★★★★
    No
    Bro storm pyramid x with apocalypse synergy would break bg
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 4,408 ★★★★★
    edited October 2
    No
    J0eySn0w said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    It's not bad or good depending on players, it's just bad.

    I legit wanna know. Can you elaborate?
    First problem would be Heimdal. Domino and Agent Venom could end fights in seconds. Immortal symbiotes. Herc starting with more charges and a lot more damage. Scarlet Witch could end most fights in 10 seconds or less.

    I can't think of all of the synergies that would significantly impact the game mode, but that sample should be big enough. It would make BGs significantly worse.
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,080 ★★★★★
    No
    Furrymoosen said:

    J0eySn0w said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    It's not bad or good depending on players, it's just bad.

    I legit wanna know. Can you elaborate?
    First problem would be Heimdal. Domino and Agent Venom could end fights in seconds. Immortal symbiotes. Herc starting with more charges and a lot more damage. Scarlet Witch could end most fights in 10 seconds or less.

    I can't think of all of the broken synergies that would significantly impact the game mode, but that sample should be big enough. It would make BGs significantly worse.
    Thanks for digging to all this broken. Syngere.
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 4,408 ★★★★★
    No
    Ourobøros said:

    How would you have synergies, if you have to put synergy champs together on a team, bg is 1v1, no teams

    All fights are 1v1. What they said makes sense, that synergies would be shared amongst the team of 7 you draft. The logic of how it would work makes sense, the logic of why it should is what doesn't.
  • J0eySn0wJ0eySn0w Member Posts: 980 ★★★★
    Furrymoosen said:

    J0eySn0w said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    It's not bad or good depending on players, it's just bad.

    I legit wanna know. Can you elaborate?
    First problem would be Heimdal. Domino and Agent Venom could end fights in seconds. Immortal symbiotes. Herc starting with more charges and a lot more damage. Scarlet Witch could end most fights in 10 seconds or less.

    I can't think of all of the synergies that would significantly impact the game mode, but that sample should be big enough. It would make BGs significantly worse.
    Makes sense. There are other nuisances that might not necessarily let things play out as described. Your opponent is picking their own deck that you have to cater to it. Champs to ban as well, meta nodes, etc. Like I said it adds some complexities can have to be addressed, but I’m open to it being explored rather than shut the door on that completely.
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,080 ★★★★★
    No
    J0eySn0w said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    J0eySn0w said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    It's not bad or good depending on players, it's just bad.

    I legit wanna know. Can you elaborate?
    First problem would be Heimdal. Domino and Agent Venom could end fights in seconds. Immortal symbiotes. Herc starting with more charges and a lot more damage. Scarlet Witch could end most fights in 10 seconds or less.

    I can't think of all of the synergies that would significantly impact the game mode, but that sample should be big enough. It would make BGs significantly worse.
    Makes sense. There are other nuisances that might not necessarily let things play out as described. Your opponent is picking their own deck that you have to cater to it. Champs to ban as well, meta nodes, etc. Like I said it adds some complexities can have to be addressed, but I’m open to it being explored rather than shut the door on that completely.
    No thanks.
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 4,408 ★★★★★
    edited October 2
    No
    J0eySn0w said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    J0eySn0w said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    It's not bad or good depending on players, it's just bad.

    I legit wanna know. Can you elaborate?
    First problem would be Heimdal. Domino and Agent Venom could end fights in seconds. Immortal symbiotes. Herc starting with more charges and a lot more damage. Scarlet Witch could end most fights in 10 seconds or less.

    I can't think of all of the synergies that would significantly impact the game mode, but that sample should be big enough. It would make BGs significantly worse.
    Makes sense. There are other nuisances that might not necessarily let things play out as described. Your opponent is picking their own deck that you have to cater to it. Champs to ban as well, meta nodes, etc. Like I said it adds some complexities can have to be addressed, but I’m open to it being explored rather than shut the door on that completely.
    The problem is that it adds too much complexity. It would mean that players would need to draft based on what could happen and not on what is happening. Having to be paranoid about your opponent finishing a killer synergy will only frustrate players that either waste draft picks or are forced to draft certain ways because of it.
    And what if you're the player going after the synergies and you've now wasted a draft pick on Agent Venom and he's all alone? Again, frustration.

    I'm all about breathing new life into BGs, I just don't see how they can reasonably do that outside of different node combos like they currently are doing.
  • J0eySn0wJ0eySn0w Member Posts: 980 ★★★★
    Furrymoosen said:

    J0eySn0w said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    J0eySn0w said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    It's not bad or good depending on players, it's just bad.

    I legit wanna know. Can you elaborate?
    First problem would be Heimdal. Domino and Agent Venom could end fights in seconds. Immortal symbiotes. Herc starting with more charges and a lot more damage. Scarlet Witch could end most fights in 10 seconds or less.

    I can't think of all of the synergies that would significantly impact the game mode, but that sample should be big enough. It would make BGs significantly worse.
    Makes sense. There are other nuisances that might not necessarily let things play out as described. Your opponent is picking their own deck that you have to cater to it. Champs to ban as well, meta nodes, etc. Like I said it adds some complexities can have to be addressed, but I’m open to it being explored rather than shut the door on that completely.
    The problem is that it adds too much complexity. It would mean that players would need to draft based on what could happen and not on what is happening. Having to be paranoid about your opponent finishing a killer synergy will only frustrate players that either waste draft picks or are forced to draft certain ways because of it.
    And what if you're the player going after the synergies and you've now wasted a draft pick on Agent Venom and he's all alone? Again, frustration.

    I'm all about breathing new life into BGs, I just don't see how they can reasonably do that outside of different node combos like they currently are doing.
    I wonder if Kabam themselves have looked into or considered it. Anyways, it was something I thought could breathe new life into synergies and battlegrounds as well.
  • Ragnaruk5178Ragnaruk5178 Member Posts: 57 ★
    No
    I understand what you mean but it would completely undermine the point of bgs- more wins would be secured by synergy choice rather than skill.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 1,625 ★★★★
    No
    J0eySn0w said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    J0eySn0w said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    It's not bad or good depending on players, it's just bad.

    I legit wanna know. Can you elaborate?
    First problem would be Heimdal. Domino and Agent Venom could end fights in seconds. Immortal symbiotes. Herc starting with more charges and a lot more damage. Scarlet Witch could end most fights in 10 seconds or less.

    I can't think of all of the synergies that would significantly impact the game mode, but that sample should be big enough. It would make BGs significantly worse.
    Makes sense. There are other nuisances that might not necessarily let things play out as described. Your opponent is picking their own deck that you have to cater to it. Champs to ban as well, meta nodes, etc. Like I said it adds some complexities can have to be addressed, but I’m open to it being explored rather than shut the door on that completely.
    You only have 30 seconds to pick 3 bans, now imagine trying to do that while also remembering every possible synergy between 30 different characters without a chart to figure out if there a game breaking synergy you forgot about
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,080 ★★★★★
    No
    WednesdayLength said:

    J0eySn0w said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    J0eySn0w said:

    Furrymoosen said:

    It's not bad or good depending on players, it's just bad.

    I legit wanna know. Can you elaborate?
    First problem would be Heimdal. Domino and Agent Venom could end fights in seconds. Immortal symbiotes. Herc starting with more charges and a lot more damage. Scarlet Witch could end most fights in 10 seconds or less.

    I can't think of all of the synergies that would significantly impact the game mode, but that sample should be big enough. It would make BGs significantly worse.
    Makes sense. There are other nuisances that might not necessarily let things play out as described. Your opponent is picking their own deck that you have to cater to it. Champs to ban as well, meta nodes, etc. Like I said it adds some complexities can have to be addressed, but I’m open to it being explored rather than shut the door on that completely.
    You only have 30 seconds to pick 3 bans, now imagine trying to do that while also remembering every possible synergy between 30 different characters without a chart to figure out if there a game breaking synergy you forgot about
    This to and heindail be would be a ban always. No matter what
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 8,042 ★★★★★
    No
    No way since if you allow attackers to have synergies, defenders as well. Like everyone would have the Heimdall synergy
  • SandeepSSandeepS Member Posts: 1,277 ★★★★
    No
    I like having a reason for ranking different champs. Aegon for example has a place in Everest content, cap iw is great as a team so more useful in quests with synergies, silk is a great solo nuke. Therefore having champs which are BG specific is good to encourage depth in roster (not saying you can't use cap iw in BG).

    Every champ should have a place in the game ideally then we choose what we rank depending on the mode we enjoy most.
  • ThePredator1001ThePredator1001 Member Posts: 948 ★★★★
    Yes
    After reading the comments I want to change my answer to No, I forgot about all the broken synergies.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,634 ★★★★★
    No
    Everyone picking Heimdall first just for **** and giggles.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 9,992 ★★★★★
    Yes
    The synergies should work between all the 30 champs, except the 3 who gets banned. A team of 7 with synergy sounds boring.
  • Joker1976Joker1976 Member Posts: 744 ★★★
    No
    No,..synergies in battlegrounds should never be a thing.
  • SyndicatedSyndicated Member Posts: 670 ★★★
    No
    Pre-fight abilities are more than enough
  • jdschwjdschw Member Posts: 460 ★★★
    edited October 2
    Yes
    I actually think it would be neat for you to get synergies in BGs - but only between your attacker and your defender in a round. So, for example, you'd be able to use the Heimdall synergy, but only for one fight, and you'd have to use Heimdall as your attacker in that fight.
  • Greed_ExodusGreed_Exodus Member Posts: 417 ★★★
    Definitely not team synergy’s but solo synergies should work, like yellow jacket is supposed to be able to apply slow on heavy as a synergy he gives himself, champs that solo synergy should work in BGs I think but kabam probably won’t
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 1,625 ★★★★
    No
    jdschw said:

    I actually think it would be neat for you to get synergies in BGs - but only between your attacker and your defender in a round. So, for example, you'd be able to use the Heimdall synergy, but only for one fight, and you'd have to use Heimdall as your attacker in that fight.

    The very few seconds you would waste of the opponents time by using that synergy is insignificant compared to the time you would save if you just used a good attacker
  • Sarvanga1_Sarvanga1_ Member Posts: 4,158 ★★★★★
    Yes
    I would love to see synergies in bg. It would be an entertaining dumpster fire.🙂
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