Hubris_hater wrote: » This is why the forums are virtually empty Unless you agree to bash Kabam on every thread for every reason then you are called a troll and flagged none stop
Hubris_hater wrote: » RedRooster wrote: » @GroundedWisdom One of the points you keep missing has nothing to do with good versus bad champs or new versus old champs and that is the ability to target a class. A lot of people are in the position of having expiring t4cc (and now t2a), but they don't have a champ that they can use their resources on. They can be cursed with RNG that keeps on giving them rank up materials or awakening gems for a class of champion they don't have. New featured champs and re-runs in particular give them the opportunity to have a relatively high chance of getting a champ of that class. The only other time that happens is when Kabam drop those $100 whale milker deals. Good point mate. How do you think they should address this?
RedRooster wrote: » @GroundedWisdom One of the points you keep missing has nothing to do with good versus bad champs or new versus old champs and that is the ability to target a class. A lot of people are in the position of having expiring t4cc (and now t2a), but they don't have a champ that they can use their resources on. They can be cursed with RNG that keeps on giving them rank up materials or awakening gems for a class of champion they don't have. New featured champs and re-runs in particular give them the opportunity to have a relatively high chance of getting a champ of that class. The only other time that happens is when Kabam drop those $100 whale milker deals.
Hubris_hater wrote: » BitterSteel wrote: » Hubris_hater wrote: » This is why the forums are virtually empty Unless you agree to bash Kabam on every thread for every reason then you are called a troll and flagged none stop Lots of people agree with kabam. I don’t mind if you do or don’t. It’s the way he carries himself on the forum, the way he argues his side, and yes of course some of his opinions. I believe he’s a troll because he agrees with kabam on every issue, literally anything kabam has done, gw is there praising them. Anyone speaks against kabam he calls them conspiracy theorists. To be fair mate, I see virtually no-one siding with Kabam on here, at all. It is constant bashing and blaming when that achieves nothing at all as you know. People should discuss, and if they disagree then they disagree. But people get personal, name calling, flagging every post etc etc@GroundedWisdom rubs some people up the wrong way, but no need to abuse him non-stop is there. I genuinely believe he tries to help as much as he can, but people take this the wrong way. Plus he has different opinions than some as well. And people posting personal attacks is then flagged as liked by others? Not nice or grown up But, back to this change: Like I said, nothing will change on this for at least the next 3 months however much some people want it to. So we may as well calm down and see how it works out is what I suggest?
BitterSteel wrote: » Hubris_hater wrote: » This is why the forums are virtually empty Unless you agree to bash Kabam on every thread for every reason then you are called a troll and flagged none stop Lots of people agree with kabam. I don’t mind if you do or don’t. It’s the way he carries himself on the forum, the way he argues his side, and yes of course some of his opinions. I believe he’s a troll because he agrees with kabam on every issue, literally anything kabam has done, gw is there praising them. Anyone speaks against kabam he calls them conspiracy theorists.
Hubris_hater wrote: » @BitterSteel A troll is defined by most of us as someone who disagrees with our opinion, and won't change that opinion even when we think we have shown it to be wrong. That is what you are doing here mate. Hes not a troll, he just disagrees with you, and wont stop stating his opinion, same as you continue to state yours Your examples are not very good. Bugs, cheats etc are reported all the time and are not related to this at all in any way. The other examples are extreme and would never happen. This crystal change is not like them at all. And I am all for people stating their unhappiness (or not) re this. But not when it gets silly, personal and abusive Plus, this is not me saying this, you know this won't be changed, so what I am saying is correct?
Hubris_hater wrote: » BitterSteel wrote: » You don’t know that kabam won’t change it. You are saying something with absolute certainty that you couldn’t possibly know. You’re either assuming or lying. Again, I’ll mention the arena update that kabam didn’t do because of a week of complaints on forum. Your correct mate, I dont know, its just my opinion. But I am pretty certain about this one, and you are as well really arent you? Plus every post you post yourself (the same as we all do) you state it as if it is fact, when its just your opinion, You keep saying this is a bad change, that we all dont like it or want it, that it will have a bad affect on the game for us etc. These are your opinions, not facts
BitterSteel wrote: » You don’t know that kabam won’t change it. You are saying something with absolute certainty that you couldn’t possibly know. You’re either assuming or lying. Again, I’ll mention the arena update that kabam didn’t do because of a week of complaints on forum.
Hubris_hater wrote: » BitterSteel wrote: » Hubris_hater wrote: » @BitterSteel A troll is defined by most of us as someone who disagrees with our opinion, and won't change that opinion even when we think we have shown it to be wrong. That is what you are doing here mate. Hes not a troll, he just disagrees with you, and wont stop stating his opinion, same as you continue to state yours Your examples are not very good. Bugs, cheats etc are reported all the time and are not related to this at all in any way. The other examples are extreme and would never happen. This crystal change is not like them at all. And I am all for people stating their unhappiness (or not) re this. But not when it gets silly, personal and abusive Plus, this is not me saying this, you know this won't be changed, so what I am saying is correct? No. You are speaking for me. I think gw is a troll because I do not think he believes what he says. I believe he is doing it to antagonise. I don’t care what you or he says, I believe he is a troll and that is my opinion. Yes you are saying this. You are assuming it won’t be changed. You or I don’t know whether it will be or not but I am hoping it will and that is why I will continue posting and complaining regardless of which troll moans at me. What you are saying is not necessarily correct. You are saying that there is a 0% chance of kabam changing the crystal in the next 3 months. Which is wrong, that is simply wrong. Kabam could change the crystal tomorrow and you’d be stood there with egg on your face. Please don’t tell me you believe there is a 0% chance of kabam changing the crystal, like genuinely from a statistical perspective? I didnt do that mate, I clearly stated it was just my opinion? Please read it again and see? And re GW, your opinion, and I support your right to have it. I was just trying to show it from a different viewpoint. But you must agree that the bullying, name-calling, abusive posts and non-stop flagging of every one of his posts is going too far?
BitterSteel wrote: » Hubris_hater wrote: » @BitterSteel A troll is defined by most of us as someone who disagrees with our opinion, and won't change that opinion even when we think we have shown it to be wrong. That is what you are doing here mate. Hes not a troll, he just disagrees with you, and wont stop stating his opinion, same as you continue to state yours Your examples are not very good. Bugs, cheats etc are reported all the time and are not related to this at all in any way. The other examples are extreme and would never happen. This crystal change is not like them at all. And I am all for people stating their unhappiness (or not) re this. But not when it gets silly, personal and abusive Plus, this is not me saying this, you know this won't be changed, so what I am saying is correct? No. You are speaking for me. I think gw is a troll because I do not think he believes what he says. I believe he is doing it to antagonise. I don’t care what you or he says, I believe he is a troll and that is my opinion. Yes you are saying this. You are assuming it won’t be changed. You or I don’t know whether it will be or not but I am hoping it will and that is why I will continue posting and complaining regardless of which troll moans at me. What you are saying is not necessarily correct. You are saying that there is a 0% chance of kabam changing the crystal in the next 3 months. Which is wrong, that is simply wrong. Kabam could change the crystal tomorrow and you’d be stood there with egg on your face. Please don’t tell me you believe there is a 0% chance of kabam changing the crystal, like genuinely from a statistical perspective?
Hubris_hater wrote: » BitterSteel wrote: » Hubris_hater wrote: » BitterSteel wrote: » You don’t know that kabam won’t change it. You are saying something with absolute certainty that you couldn’t possibly know. You’re either assuming or lying. Again, I’ll mention the arena update that kabam didn’t do because of a week of complaints on forum. Your correct mate, I dont know, its just my opinion. But I am pretty certain about this one, and you are as well really arent you? Plus every post you post yourself (the same as we all do) you state it as if it is fact, when its just your opinion, You keep saying this is a bad change, that we all dont like it or want it, that it will have a bad affect on the game for us etc. These are your opinions, not facts Point to where I said that we all hate it. Or that it will affect the game negatively. You said, just 2 posts above:Well it's a fact that more people hate the idea than like or love it You even said it was a fact, when it clearly isnt, it is your opinion only
BitterSteel wrote: » Hubris_hater wrote: » BitterSteel wrote: » You don’t know that kabam won’t change it. You are saying something with absolute certainty that you couldn’t possibly know. You’re either assuming or lying. Again, I’ll mention the arena update that kabam didn’t do because of a week of complaints on forum. Your correct mate, I dont know, its just my opinion. But I am pretty certain about this one, and you are as well really arent you? Plus every post you post yourself (the same as we all do) you state it as if it is fact, when its just your opinion, You keep saying this is a bad change, that we all dont like it or want it, that it will have a bad affect on the game for us etc. These are your opinions, not facts Point to where I said that we all hate it. Or that it will affect the game negatively.
Hubris_hater wrote: » BitterSteel wrote: » Hubris_hater wrote: » BitterSteel wrote: » Hubris_hater wrote: » @BitterSteel A troll is defined by most of us as someone who disagrees with our opinion, and won't change that opinion even when we think we have shown it to be wrong. That is what you are doing here mate. Hes not a troll, he just disagrees with you, and wont stop stating his opinion, same as you continue to state yours Your examples are not very good. Bugs, cheats etc are reported all the time and are not related to this at all in any way. The other examples are extreme and would never happen. This crystal change is not like them at all. And I am all for people stating their unhappiness (or not) re this. But not when it gets silly, personal and abusive Plus, this is not me saying this, you know this won't be changed, so what I am saying is correct? No. You are speaking for me. I think gw is a troll because I do not think he believes what he says. I believe he is doing it to antagonise. I don’t care what you or he says, I believe he is a troll and that is my opinion. Yes you are saying this. You are assuming it won’t be changed. You or I don’t know whether it will be or not but I am hoping it will and that is why I will continue posting and complaining regardless of which troll moans at me. What you are saying is not necessarily correct. You are saying that there is a 0% chance of kabam changing the crystal in the next 3 months. Which is wrong, that is simply wrong. Kabam could change the crystal tomorrow and you’d be stood there with egg on your face. Please don’t tell me you believe there is a 0% chance of kabam changing the crystal, like genuinely from a statistical perspective? I didnt do that mate, I clearly stated it was just my opinion? Please read it again and see? And re GW, your opinion, and I support your right to have it. I was just trying to show it from a different viewpoint. But you must agree that the bullying, name-calling, abusive posts and non-stop flagging of every one of his posts is going too far? Bullying, namecalling (troll here isn’t a namecall because I’m not using it to insult him, I think he’s negatively affecting the forum by spreading his false opinion that he doesn’t believe) and abuse is wrong. But the flagging in my view is right because he spams. You were speaking for me when you defined a troll. That’s not how I define a troll so I corrected you, you implied I just callled him a troll because he disagrees with me. I’ve agreed with what gw has written before, doesn’t mean I think he’s genuine. I have already said what you define as a troll is different mate, sorry that you disagree and no offence meant BUT, and its a big But (lol) this bit: by spreading his false opinion that he doesn’t believe that is your opinion yet again, not facts. His opinion may be correct, yours wrong. Either way he has as much right as you to state them without being abused and bullied
BitterSteel wrote: » Hubris_hater wrote: » BitterSteel wrote: » Hubris_hater wrote: » @BitterSteel A troll is defined by most of us as someone who disagrees with our opinion, and won't change that opinion even when we think we have shown it to be wrong. That is what you are doing here mate. Hes not a troll, he just disagrees with you, and wont stop stating his opinion, same as you continue to state yours Your examples are not very good. Bugs, cheats etc are reported all the time and are not related to this at all in any way. The other examples are extreme and would never happen. This crystal change is not like them at all. And I am all for people stating their unhappiness (or not) re this. But not when it gets silly, personal and abusive Plus, this is not me saying this, you know this won't be changed, so what I am saying is correct? No. You are speaking for me. I think gw is a troll because I do not think he believes what he says. I believe he is doing it to antagonise. I don’t care what you or he says, I believe he is a troll and that is my opinion. Yes you are saying this. You are assuming it won’t be changed. You or I don’t know whether it will be or not but I am hoping it will and that is why I will continue posting and complaining regardless of which troll moans at me. What you are saying is not necessarily correct. You are saying that there is a 0% chance of kabam changing the crystal in the next 3 months. Which is wrong, that is simply wrong. Kabam could change the crystal tomorrow and you’d be stood there with egg on your face. Please don’t tell me you believe there is a 0% chance of kabam changing the crystal, like genuinely from a statistical perspective? I didnt do that mate, I clearly stated it was just my opinion? Please read it again and see? And re GW, your opinion, and I support your right to have it. I was just trying to show it from a different viewpoint. But you must agree that the bullying, name-calling, abusive posts and non-stop flagging of every one of his posts is going too far? Bullying, namecalling (troll here isn’t a namecall because I’m not using it to insult him, I think he’s negatively affecting the forum by spreading his false opinion that he doesn’t believe) and abuse is wrong. But the flagging in my view is right because he spams. You were speaking for me when you defined a troll. That’s not how I define a troll so I corrected you, you implied I just callled him a troll because he disagrees with me. I’ve agreed with what gw has written before, doesn’t mean I think he’s genuine.
Hubris_hater wrote: » BitterSteel wrote: » Hubris_hater wrote: » BitterSteel wrote: » Hubris_hater wrote: » BitterSteel wrote: » You don’t know that kabam won’t change it. You are saying something with absolute certainty that you couldn’t possibly know. You’re either assuming or lying. Again, I’ll mention the arena update that kabam didn’t do because of a week of complaints on forum. Your correct mate, I dont know, its just my opinion. But I am pretty certain about this one, and you are as well really arent you? Plus every post you post yourself (the same as we all do) you state it as if it is fact, when its just your opinion, You keep saying this is a bad change, that we all dont like it or want it, that it will have a bad affect on the game for us etc. These are your opinions, not facts Point to where I said that we all hate it. Or that it will affect the game negatively. You said, just 2 posts above:Well it's a fact that more people hate the idea than like or love it You even said it was a fact, when it clearly isnt, it is your opinion only Since when are these two statements the same? 1) we all hate it 2) more people hate it than love it Out of Everyone I know in the game, upwards of 1000 people (I’m in a line chat with my alliance’s family of alliances) the vast majority dislike it. Using that sample of variously rated players. Some with 4-40s some with rank 5 5*. The largely vast majority hate it. Meaning that to me, it is a fact that more hate it than love it. Stating as a FACT that more people dislike it than like it is just wrong mate. It is your point of view, not mine or others at all. Plus I have already explained that we all look for people who share our opinions, it is a common thing to do. It doesnt make it a fact in any way, it just means you say it is! Doesn't make the opinion the right one Out of the 500+ people I know in game I would say the split is: 30% hate it 20% like it 50% wait to see what happens Does that make my opinion now a fact?
BitterSteel wrote: » Hubris_hater wrote: » BitterSteel wrote: » Hubris_hater wrote: » BitterSteel wrote: » You don’t know that kabam won’t change it. You are saying something with absolute certainty that you couldn’t possibly know. You’re either assuming or lying. Again, I’ll mention the arena update that kabam didn’t do because of a week of complaints on forum. Your correct mate, I dont know, its just my opinion. But I am pretty certain about this one, and you are as well really arent you? Plus every post you post yourself (the same as we all do) you state it as if it is fact, when its just your opinion, You keep saying this is a bad change, that we all dont like it or want it, that it will have a bad affect on the game for us etc. These are your opinions, not facts Point to where I said that we all hate it. Or that it will affect the game negatively. You said, just 2 posts above:Well it's a fact that more people hate the idea than like or love it You even said it was a fact, when it clearly isnt, it is your opinion only Since when are these two statements the same? 1) we all hate it 2) more people hate it than love it Out of Everyone I know in the game, upwards of 1000 people (I’m in a line chat with my alliance’s family of alliances) the vast majority dislike it. Using that sample of variously rated players. Some with 4-40s some with rank 5 5*. The largely vast majority hate it. Meaning that to me, it is a fact that more hate it than love it.
