If you build the main prizes into the milestones, you spread the value around more evenly and you keep whales from getting a huge windfall.
If the crystals are absolutely lit, megawhales will get more separation from the population as a whole.
We deliberately include as much of the reward package as we can in the events themselves. This year, everything in the SBC can be used on 7-star champions, so there shouldn't be anything in there that is completely useless to players. But the crystals are never going to be the main focus of the rewards, because if they were as TyEdge correctly summarized, it would mean creating an enormous gap between the big spenders and everyone else.
I will pop back into this thread after the event is over to share more comprehensive thoughts like I did last year. But in the meantime, I encourage Summoners to take a breath and look at the total reward package that was available as part of this event. I personally think there is more here for ~15K Units than there was during Cyber Week, and I'm having a blast with my new 7-Star Medusa.
Enjoy the holiday break everyone.
Perfect!
People just dont understand the realm milestones haha.
And @Kabam_Crashed , @Kabam_Pinwheel ,some summoners here want to censor mine and other summoner words that are ok with Banquet and everything we got.
They even had a memory lapse forgetting the 10 amazing received champs
Everyone is entitled to express his/her oppinion.
Not a bunch of summoners crying over rng crystals will stop me/us
THE 10 CHAMPS WHERE NOTHING TO DO WITH BANQUET! ARE YOU GONNA START TALKING ABOUT HOW SIDE QUEST REWARDS 8 YEARS AGO WERE SO GOOD IT JUSTIFIES THIS?
Being one of Royal Familly Mi 6 agents surprises me the way you answer with big Caps, not polite as your answer is seen as you're yellying, as we can read the same way.
10 champs are indeed part of the festivities.
Maybe if they put the champs on every day now, during banquet, nobody would be crying
It's clear that there's something going on behind the scenes, I don't remember Kabam being active on the forum on weekends, and it's almost Christmas too.
We haven't heard the last word on this, future Banquet events and millions of dollars are at stake, it helps to rattle the sabers a bit.
We may not be whales, but without us there's not much for the whales to do. No one is going to spend $250k on an event in the future, if you can be number 1 and spend $25k, or $2,500.
We are talking about the banquet here, and the 10 free champions we received isn't part of the banquet. They are part of the 10th year anniversary but not the banquet. As far as the banquet is concerned, it has been a total failure due to the drop rates from the SBC, over 30% in t6cc fragments?? in what year are they living ??? this isn't 2023
I’m grateful for the 10 free 7-star champions that were given by Kabam. It’s an incredibly generous gesture, and I appreciate the effort to give back to the community. However, I don’t feel that this can adequately compensate for the disappointment surrounding the Grand Banquet event.
While I now have 10 new 7-star champions, the reality is that most of them will likely never even be ranked up due to the extreme resource requirements for 7-stars. This leaves the value of these champions somewhat limited in the grand scheme of things.
Furthermore, I personally spent $200 and 6,000 units on getting 60 Superior Banquet Crystals, and the rewards I received left me feeling underwhelmed.
I ended up with mostly Tier 6 Class Catalyst fragments, a small amount of Tier 7 Basic Catalyst fragments, less than 5000 7-star shards, a Titan Crystal, and the 7-star Champion Trophy Selector. While these rewards might look good on paper, they fall far short of what I was expecting from an event marketed as a “Grand Banquet.” I thought my investment would yield more meaningful rewards, and it’s disheartening that it didn’t.
If I feel this let down after what I received, I can only imagine how others feel who spent less or pulled worse rewards. This doesn’t feel like a Grand Banquet—it feels like a Grand Letdown. I hope future events will provide better rewards and truly live up to the hype.
If you build the main prizes into the milestones, you spread the value around more evenly and you keep whales from getting a huge windfall.
If the crystals are absolutely lit, megawhales will get more separation from the population as a whole.
We deliberately include as much of the reward package as we can in the events themselves. This year, everything in the SBC can be used on 7-star champions, so there shouldn't be anything in there that is completely useless to players. But the crystals are never going to be the main focus of the rewards, because if they were as TyEdge correctly summarized, it would mean creating an enormous gap between the big spenders and everyone else.
I will pop back into this thread after the event is over to share more comprehensive thoughts like I did last year. But in the meantime, I encourage Summoners to take a breath and look at the total reward package that was available as part of this event. I personally think there is more here for ~15K Units than there was during Cyber Week, and I'm having a blast with my new 7-Star Medusa.
Enjoy the holiday break everyone.
ok, we get you work at kabam…but is this your honest opinion ? From a real player pov ?
Just wanna say Crashed has been incredibly open and honest with the community, above and beyond what is required by his position. He's been very generous with his time especially here on the forums, lets please not impugn his character. You can disagree with his assessment if you do, but please trust that if hes saying it he means it.
This just sounds a bit condescending as if we should feel privileged about him posting here . He was one of those who hyped these rewards so he should also take responsibility to address players who feel scammed . Players spent time and money to get very underwhelming outcomes . Remember it’s the same money that the game runs on and pays the wages of kabam employees . Read the room before making this type of post .
It’s almost like pilot saying he is generous with his time if he trying to explain a delayed flight
If you build the main prizes into the milestones, you spread the value around more evenly and you keep whales from getting a huge windfall.
If the crystals are absolutely lit, megawhales will get more separation from the population as a whole.
We deliberately include as much of the reward package as we can in the events themselves. This year, everything in the SBC can be used on 7-star champions, so there shouldn't be anything in there that is completely useless to players. But the crystals are never going to be the main focus of the rewards, because if they were as TyEdge correctly summarized, it would mean creating an enormous gap between the big spenders and everyone else.
I will pop back into this thread after the event is over to share more comprehensive thoughts like I did last year. But in the meantime, I encourage Summoners to take a breath and look at the total reward package that was available as part of this event. I personally think there is more here for ~15K Units than there was during Cyber Week, and I'm having a blast with my new 7-Star Medusa.
Enjoy the holiday break everyone.
Perfect!
People just dont understand the realm milestones haha.
And @Kabam_Crashed , @Kabam_Pinwheel ,some summoners here want to censor mine and other summoner words that are ok with Banquet and everything we got.
They even had a memory lapse forgetting the 10 amazing received champs
Everyone is entitled to express his/her oppinion.
Not a bunch of summoners crying over rng crystals will stop me/us
THE 10 CHAMPS WHERE NOTHING TO DO WITH BANQUET! ARE YOU GONNA START TALKING ABOUT HOW SIDE QUEST REWARDS 8 YEARS AGO WERE SO GOOD IT JUSTIFIES THIS?
Being one of Royal Familly Mi 6 agents surprises me the way you answer with big Caps, not polite as your answer is seen as you're yellying, as we can read the same way.
10 champs are indeed part of the festivities.
Maybe if they put the champs on every day now, during banquet, nobody would be crying
Only one of those 10 was worth. The first 9 were there to make you login every day. Those 9 are not worth any rank up/lvl up ressources. In fact they are so bad, Kabam didn’t even flinch to give Spider Man, not once, not twice, but 3 times. They were filler like the fillers we have in the SBC. So go ahead and rank up those subpar champs. I know I won’t
If you build the main prizes into the milestones, you spread the value around more evenly and you keep whales from getting a huge windfall.
If the crystals are absolutely lit, megawhales will get more separation from the population as a whole.
We deliberately include as much of the reward package as we can in the events themselves. This year, everything in the SBC can be used on 7-star champions, so there shouldn't be anything in there that is completely useless to players. But the crystals are never going to be the main focus of the rewards, because if they were as TyEdge correctly summarized, it would mean creating an enormous gap between the big spenders and everyone else.
I will pop back into this thread after the event is over to share more comprehensive thoughts like I did last year. But in the meantime, I encourage Summoners to take a breath and look at the total reward package that was available as part of this event. I personally think there is more here for ~15K Units than there was during Cyber Week, and I'm having a blast with my new 7-Star Medusa.
Enjoy the holiday break everyone.
In other words, whales and mega-whales will get the rewards no matter what, so maybe we can bleed the average player of any expendable income they may have.
Thank you for the, let's be honest, absolute bare minimum adjustment to the absolute end game milestones in the Banquet milestones. This only helps the few % of players who were going to push that far already, but it does show you’re at least open to listening and adjusting.
This would be an incredible time to start listening harder. There are some inescapable gaps between what your game team is doing and considering “ground breaking good value rewards” and what your customers are TELLING you is incredibly bad value. This gap is immense and I recommend something be done immediately to start closing that gap.
In Kabam Crash’s response to the uproar about the value in the Banquet crystals he says something close to “the game team values rewards differently than the playerbase.” This is a true, and necessary, statement. If players had every single thing we wanted, the game would probably be unplayable (looking at you 7* Herc, Magik, and Quake). That being said, the disconnect between the game team's valuation and the players is beyond the pale of what should be considered acceptable in the Banquet event.
The player's valuation of what 300 units should achieve when spending 300 units in the game absolutely must be taken into consideration - and it very, very obviously was not taken into consideration with this event. For doing 4 runs of 1.1 in Road to the Labyrinth, a Valiant player achieves all Daily Super Event milestones. These rewards include things like half a T6 Basic/T3 Alpha, a full T5 class catalyst selector, 225 Titan shards, 1800 T4 Alpha frags, or a single 7* sig stone, and a bunch of extras. These are the things we get every single day for doing nothing more than putting our phone on autofight and hitting Replay 3 times. This doesn’t even take into account the Battlegrounds store or any other place we can piece these rewards together.
Your team has somehow decided that charging us 300 units for the rewards we get every day for free is somehow “great reward valuation.” 2 T5CC, 2 7* sig stones, 1-5% of various catalysts for 300 units? Talk about an absolutely defenseless level of disconnect. Kabam Crash is 100% right that all the rewards we get are tuned to 7*s and therefore aren’t “useless” but the quantities being offered are nowhere near a 300 unit valuation for a Valiant player.
The team also keeps saying things along the lines of, “the rewards in their entirety is incredibly good valuation.” And again, I would actually agree. But to get all the rewards in their entirety requires spending the equivalent of $500-$600 USD worth of units to get there. You have the data, how many of your players can actually do that? Should the players who can't spend/hoard enough units be left feeling absolutely miserable, worthless, and hating the event because they can’t afford it? What an awful way to treat your players, customers and potential customers.
The player base is not as foolish as we are being told we are by the game team. We completely understand not every single SBC can give an equivalent 300 unit valuation. That being said, when we are going through tens and hundreds of these crystals and coming out feeling overwhelmingly ripped off and like there was next to no value in what we pulled, there’s obvious, drastic action that needs to be taken. For something like the 10th anniversary Grand Banquet Event not a single action or crystal opening should leave us feeling like we didn’t get any value out of it. Not. A. Single. One.
The long term solution moving forward is under absolutely zero circumstance should Valiant players be in the same reward categories as Thronebreakers. That is completely nonsensical. It destroys the value of achieving the Valiant title and requires rewards tuning to be ridiculously pathetic value for Valiant players while TB players get beyond phenomenal returns. Pair Paragons and Thronebreakers together, sure. Under no circumstance should the top tier title player be suffering lessened returns because they are paired with lower-tier players.
I’m not one to go on about compensation, but honestly, there needs to be something significant done to turn around the ongoing player sentiment immediately. The 7* crystals will be appreciated by those who were already going to get them, but it has honestly made player sentiment even worse. There are reports of players vowing to never spend again, wanting a boycott/review bombing to happen, and even those putting the game down for good. You have said to “keep an eye out for the Christmas gift” but that may legitimately be too little, too late. Especially with the complete lack of trust that it will be anything of actual value at this point. You have said “just wait” over and over and every time we have been left disappointed and wanting.
There have been a few suggestions made here that could work well:
*Increase the milestone rewards for those who haven’t reached them and mail the difference to those who have. Simple and efficient.
*Create a new SBC with only the top rewards adjusted by title level and send each player 5.
*Implement a progression based Christmas Calendar that starts Monday and is filled with only the top % rewards to make up for the lacking crystal pulls. Progression based - custom for each progression level.
Again, moving forward, Kabam truly needs to invest in a Valuation Team that understands player psychology for events like this and allows them to put that ahead of what might be considered “fair rewards”. There is nothing more disheartening for a player to open $500 USD worth of units and feel awful for it. See what I did there? You’re going to tell me, “but units are free” and you’re not wrong, but the psychology behind it still leaves a player feeling like they took a massive financial hit. It’s value they could have used elsewhere and been left feeling like they actually got something of equivalent worth.
If you need help, I would be more than happy to help. As a consultant. For a fee. Would probably do it for an equivalent exchange of 3400 units per hour or so.
If you build the main prizes into the milestones, you spread the value around more evenly and you keep whales from getting a huge windfall.
If the crystals are absolutely lit, megawhales will get more separation from the population as a whole.
We deliberately include as much of the reward package as we can in the events themselves. This year, everything in the SBC can be used on 7-star champions, so there shouldn't be anything in there that is completely useless to players. But the crystals are never going to be the main focus of the rewards, because if they were as TyEdge correctly summarized, it would mean creating an enormous gap between the big spenders and everyone else.
I will pop back into this thread after the event is over to share more comprehensive thoughts like I did last year. But in the meantime, I encourage Summoners to take a breath and look at the total reward package that was available as part of this event. I personally think there is more here for ~15K Units than there was during Cyber Week, and I'm having a blast with my new 7-Star Medusa.
Enjoy the holiday break everyone.
Perfect!
People just dont understand the realm milestones haha.
And @Kabam_Crashed , @Kabam_Pinwheel ,some summoners here want to censor mine and other summoner words that are ok with Banquet and everything we got.
They even had a memory lapse forgetting the 10 amazing received champs
Everyone is entitled to express his/her oppinion.
Not a bunch of summoners crying over rng crystals will stop me/us
Aren't you TB or lower ? Of course you loved the event, it was made for you and we got paired with you 😂 So yes you're opinion on the issue doesn't matter frankly
The superior banquet feel like slightly altered valiant daily crystals and the fact we can't even chose the champions we want within the glorious guardian key event is incredibly disappointing.
Also giving out sig stones for the glorious guardian reworks in the event milestones without the option to select those champs yourself completely undermines the argument for anti-whaling since you can only get enough keys to use them by whaling on Odins.
If you build the main prizes into the milestones, you spread the value around more evenly and you keep whales from getting a huge windfall.
If the crystals are absolutely lit, megawhales will get more separation from the population as a whole.
We deliberately include as much of the reward package as we can in the events themselves. This year, everything in the SBC can be used on 7-star champions, so there shouldn't be anything in there that is completely useless to players. But the crystals are never going to be the main focus of the rewards, because if they were as TyEdge correctly summarized, it would mean creating an enormous gap between the big spenders and everyone else.
I will pop back into this thread after the event is over to share more comprehensive thoughts like I did last year. But in the meantime, I encourage Summoners to take a breath and look at the total reward package that was available as part of this event. I personally think there is more here for ~15K Units than there was during Cyber Week, and I'm having a blast with my new 7-Star Medusa.
Enjoy the holiday break everyone.
Perfect!
People just dont understand the realm milestones haha.
And @Kabam_Crashed , @Kabam_Pinwheel ,some summoners here want to censor mine and other summoner words that are ok with Banquet and everything we got.
They even had a memory lapse forgetting the 10 amazing received champs
Everyone is entitled to express his/her oppinion.
Not a bunch of summoners crying over rng crystals will stop me/us
THE 10 CHAMPS WHERE NOTHING TO DO WITH BANQUET! ARE YOU GONNA START TALKING ABOUT HOW SIDE QUEST REWARDS 8 YEARS AGO WERE SO GOOD IT JUSTIFIES THIS?
Being one of Royal Familly Mi 6 agents surprises me the way you answer with big Caps, not polite as your answer is seen as you're yellying, as we can read the same way.
10 champs are indeed part of the festivities.
Maybe if they put the champs on every day now, during banquet, nobody would be crying
@peixemacaco sorry if caps came across as rude lol, not my intention, just wanted to make a point
If you build the main prizes into the milestones, you spread the value around more evenly and you keep whales from getting a huge windfall.
If the crystals are absolutely lit, megawhales will get more separation from the population as a whole.
We deliberately include as much of the reward package as we can in the events themselves. This year, everything in the SBC can be used on 7-star champions, so there shouldn't be anything in there that is completely useless to players. But the crystals are never going to be the main focus of the rewards, because if they were as TyEdge correctly summarized, it would mean creating an enormous gap between the big spenders and everyone else.
I will pop back into this thread after the event is over to share more comprehensive thoughts like I did last year. But in the meantime, I encourage Summoners to take a breath and look at the total reward package that was available as part of this event. I personally think there is more here for ~15K Units than there was during Cyber Week, and I'm having a blast with my new 7-Star Medusa.
Enjoy the holiday break everyone.
Perfect!
People just dont understand the realm milestones haha.
And @Kabam_Crashed , @Kabam_Pinwheel ,some summoners here want to censor mine and other summoner words that are ok with Banquet and everything we got.
They even had a memory lapse forgetting the 10 amazing received champs
Everyone is entitled to express his/her oppinion.
Not a bunch of summoners crying over rng crystals will stop me/us
THE 10 CHAMPS WHERE NOTHING TO DO WITH BANQUET! ARE YOU GONNA START TALKING ABOUT HOW SIDE QUEST REWARDS 8 YEARS AGO WERE SO GOOD IT JUSTIFIES THIS?
Being one of Royal Familly Mi 6 agents surprises me the way you answer with big Caps, not polite as your answer is seen as you're yellying, as we can read the same way.
10 champs are indeed part of the festivities.
Maybe if they put the champs on every day now, during banquet, nobody would be crying
@peixemacaco sorry if caps came across as rude lol, not my intention, just wanted to make a point
If you build the main prizes into the milestones, you spread the value around more evenly and you keep whales from getting a huge windfall.
If the crystals are absolutely lit, megawhales will get more separation from the population as a whole.
We deliberately include as much of the reward package as we can in the events themselves. This year, everything in the SBC can be used on 7-star champions, so there shouldn't be anything in there that is completely useless to players. But the crystals are never going to be the main focus of the rewards, because if they were as TyEdge correctly summarized, it would mean creating an enormous gap between the big spenders and everyone else.
I will pop back into this thread after the event is over to share more comprehensive thoughts like I did last year. But in the meantime, I encourage Summoners to take a breath and look at the total reward package that was available as part of this event. I personally think there is more here for ~15K Units than there was during Cyber Week, and I'm having a blast with my new 7-Star Medusa.
Enjoy the holiday break everyone.
This seems contradicting. Big spenders already have an enormous gap and advantage that is encouraged by Kabam. Doesn't Kabam create these overpriced 9,500 unit champion bundles, and $100 offers for those who want to spend? Doesn't every major whale event requires THOUSANDS of units and/or dollars to buy the most rare, sought after rewards? So why was banquet different? Maybe they should stop spending?
If you build the main prizes into the milestones, you spread the value around more evenly and you keep whales from getting a huge windfall.
If the crystals are absolutely lit, megawhales will get more separation from the population as a whole.
We deliberately include as much of the reward package as we can in the events themselves. This year, everything in the SBC can be used on 7-star champions, so there shouldn't be anything in there that is completely useless to players. But the crystals are never going to be the main focus of the rewards, because if they were as TyEdge correctly summarized, it would mean creating an enormous gap between the big spenders and everyone else.
I will pop back into this thread after the event is over to share more comprehensive thoughts like I did last year. But in the meantime, I encourage Summoners to take a breath and look at the total reward package that was available as part of this event. I personally think there is more here for ~15K Units than there was during Cyber Week, and I'm having a blast with my new 7-Star Medusa.
Enjoy the holiday break everyone.
but why did we not even get a good calendar ? since there is always a holiday calendar that gives out gbcs this year its just accolades
Gonna go out on a limb and say the 10 champ calendar WAS the holiday calender. If that's true, I'd take it over what we usually got in the past.
If you build the main prizes into the milestones, you spread the value around more evenly and you keep whales from getting a huge windfall.
If the crystals are absolutely lit, megawhales will get more separation from the population as a whole.
We deliberately include as much of the reward package as we can in the events themselves. This year, everything in the SBC can be used on 7-star champions, so there shouldn't be anything in there that is completely useless to players. But the crystals are never going to be the main focus of the rewards, because if they were as TyEdge correctly summarized, it would mean creating an enormous gap between the big spenders and everyone else.
I will pop back into this thread after the event is over to share more comprehensive thoughts like I did last year. But in the meantime, I encourage Summoners to take a breath and look at the total reward package that was available as part of this event. I personally think there is more here for ~15K Units than there was during Cyber Week, and I'm having a blast with my new 7-Star Medusa.
Enjoy the holiday break everyone.
“can be used on 7* champs” does a lot of heavy lifting here.
It's amazing how people keep complaining how bad it is but keep popping them and drop lots of money on it. When you keep doing it kabam see it as a success. If players wouldn't buy the crystals and their income would have been hurt they would have made changes for sure.
1) As the previous years of the Banquet, I sincerely enjoyed to see my teammates getting some 7* champions that were nice to very good. No matter what their titles are/were. That matches with the end of year mindset. And give them motivation to the game (more important as I am in the management of an alliance).
2) I have reached the solo event last milestone. The immediate milestones above (only in the Community event) were not interesting for me (no Weapon X in the selector, too few Titan shards and far above), and so on). A kind of reasonable top, and in the end that was fine.
3) I would have appreciated selectors instead of keys. Even if I understand the reason (invite to spend more for the champion( s ) the player wants), I think that was unnecessary. In the pool I don’t think there were really better champions that the others, nor absolute beast. So no absolute wish (even after a look at their respective spotlight) but a little one : Medusa. With 3 keys, it remains unsatisfied. I will discover my refreshed Sentry, Sentinel and Purgatory soon.
4) Very good idea to disable the champions already pulled. This mechanism would/will be useful for future events and offers.
5) The content of the superior greater Banquet crystal were not nice. As many players, I bought and opened them, knowing the result would be disappointed, and it was. Difficult to reasonably find a balance. In my opinion: - Too low rates on some items - Not enough iso (with so much level up to do on 7* …) - Not enough t6cc shards (getting several 7* on December implies wanting to upgrade them quickly) - Not enough gold (rank and level ups…)
I know that the game follow a pace of progression for the players. So some items cannot be given too easily. And the upgrades are an objective for the couple of weeks and months from now.
6) I would have appreciated to access to the Omega Days pool (more easily if it was in the Banquet). This pool is far more interesting than some others for me (Corvus, Quick, Mole).
Once again, thanks to the MCOC team for the best month of the game until now. It gave me a boost for a couple of months. And happy new year to the MCOC team and the community!
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We haven't heard the last word on this, future Banquet events and millions of dollars are at stake, it helps to rattle the sabers a bit.
We may not be whales, but without us there's not much for the whales to do. No one is going to spend $250k on an event in the future, if you can be number 1 and spend $25k, or $2,500.
So keep going, this is not the time to give in.
#justiceforthemcocsociety
While I now have 10 new 7-star champions, the reality is that most of them will likely never even be ranked up due to the extreme resource requirements for 7-stars. This leaves the value of these champions somewhat limited in the grand scheme of things.
Furthermore, I personally spent $200 and 6,000 units on getting 60 Superior Banquet Crystals, and the rewards I received left me feeling underwhelmed.
I ended up with mostly Tier 6 Class Catalyst fragments, a small amount of Tier 7 Basic Catalyst fragments, less than 5000 7-star shards, a Titan Crystal, and the 7-star Champion Trophy Selector. While these rewards might look good on paper, they fall far short of what I was expecting from an event marketed as a “Grand Banquet.” I thought my investment would yield more meaningful rewards, and it’s disheartening that it didn’t.
If I feel this let down after what I received, I can only imagine how others feel who spent less or pulled worse rewards. This doesn’t feel like a Grand Banquet—it feels like a Grand Letdown. I hope future events will provide better rewards and truly live up to the hype.
It’s almost like pilot saying he is generous with his time if he trying to explain a delayed flight
Typical corporate decision.
Thank you for the, let's be honest, absolute bare minimum adjustment to the absolute end game milestones in the Banquet milestones. This only helps the few % of players who were going to push that far already, but it does show you’re at least open to listening and adjusting.
This would be an incredible time to start listening harder. There are some inescapable gaps between what your game team is doing and considering “ground breaking good value rewards” and what your customers are TELLING you is incredibly bad value. This gap is immense and I recommend something be done immediately to start closing that gap.
In Kabam Crash’s response to the uproar about the value in the Banquet crystals he says something close to “the game team values rewards differently than the playerbase.” This is a true, and necessary, statement. If players had every single thing we wanted, the game would probably be unplayable (looking at you 7* Herc, Magik, and Quake). That being said, the disconnect between the game team's valuation and the players is beyond the pale of what should be considered acceptable in the Banquet event.
The player's valuation of what 300 units should achieve when spending 300 units in the game absolutely must be taken into consideration - and it very, very obviously was not taken into consideration with this event. For doing 4 runs of 1.1 in Road to the Labyrinth, a Valiant player achieves all Daily Super Event milestones. These rewards include things like half a T6 Basic/T3 Alpha, a full T5 class catalyst selector, 225 Titan shards, 1800 T4 Alpha frags, or a single 7* sig stone, and a bunch of extras. These are the things we get every single day for doing nothing more than putting our phone on autofight and hitting Replay 3 times. This doesn’t even take into account the Battlegrounds store or any other place we can piece these rewards together.
Your team has somehow decided that charging us 300 units for the rewards we get every day for free is somehow “great reward valuation.” 2 T5CC, 2 7* sig stones, 1-5% of various catalysts for 300 units? Talk about an absolutely defenseless level of disconnect. Kabam Crash is 100% right that all the rewards we get are tuned to 7*s and therefore aren’t “useless” but the quantities being offered are nowhere near a 300 unit valuation for a Valiant player.
The team also keeps saying things along the lines of, “the rewards in their entirety is incredibly good valuation.” And again, I would actually agree. But to get all the rewards in their entirety requires spending the equivalent of $500-$600 USD worth of units to get there. You have the data, how many of your players can actually do that? Should the players who can't spend/hoard enough units be left feeling absolutely miserable, worthless, and hating the event because they can’t afford it? What an awful way to treat your players, customers and potential customers.
The player base is not as foolish as we are being told we are by the game team. We completely understand not every single SBC can give an equivalent 300 unit valuation. That being said, when we are going through tens and hundreds of these crystals and coming out feeling overwhelmingly ripped off and like there was next to no value in what we pulled, there’s obvious, drastic action that needs to be taken. For something like the 10th anniversary Grand Banquet Event not a single action or crystal opening should leave us feeling like we didn’t get any value out of it. Not. A. Single. One.
The long term solution moving forward is under absolutely zero circumstance should Valiant players be in the same reward categories as Thronebreakers. That is completely nonsensical. It destroys the value of achieving the Valiant title and requires rewards tuning to be ridiculously pathetic value for Valiant players while TB players get beyond phenomenal returns. Pair Paragons and Thronebreakers together, sure. Under no circumstance should the top tier title player be suffering lessened returns because they are paired with lower-tier players.
I’m not one to go on about compensation, but honestly, there needs to be something significant done to turn around the ongoing player sentiment immediately. The 7* crystals will be appreciated by those who were already going to get them, but it has honestly made player sentiment even worse. There are reports of players vowing to never spend again, wanting a boycott/review bombing to happen, and even those putting the game down for good. You have said to “keep an eye out for the Christmas gift” but that may legitimately be too little, too late. Especially with the complete lack of trust that it will be anything of actual value at this point. You have said “just wait” over and over and every time we have been left disappointed and wanting.
There have been a few suggestions made here that could work well:
*Increase the milestone rewards for those who haven’t reached them and mail the difference to those who have. Simple and efficient.
*Create a new SBC with only the top rewards adjusted by title level and send each player 5.
*Implement a progression based Christmas Calendar that starts Monday and is filled with only the top % rewards to make up for the lacking crystal pulls. Progression based - custom for each progression level.
Again, moving forward, Kabam truly needs to invest in a Valuation Team that understands player psychology for events like this and allows them to put that ahead of what might be considered “fair rewards”. There is nothing more disheartening for a player to open $500 USD worth of units and feel awful for it. See what I did there? You’re going to tell me, “but units are free” and you’re not wrong, but the psychology behind it still leaves a player feeling like they took a massive financial hit. It’s value they could have used elsewhere and been left feeling like they actually got something of equivalent worth.
If you need help, I would be more than happy to help. As a consultant. For a fee. Would probably do it for an equivalent exchange of 3400 units per hour or so.
Of course you loved the event, it was made for you and we got paired with you 😂
So yes you're opinion on the issue doesn't matter frankly
Dr. Zola
Basically says, see you guys next years 2025 banquet lol
But yes the solution is “open” more crystals witch I agree.
When you keep doing it kabam see it as a success.
If players wouldn't buy the crystals and their income would have been hurt they would have made changes for sure.
1) As the previous years of the Banquet, I sincerely enjoyed to see my teammates getting some 7* champions that were nice to very good. No matter what their titles are/were. That matches with the end of year mindset. And give them motivation to the game (more important as I am in the management of an alliance).
2) I have reached the solo event last milestone. The immediate milestones above (only in the Community event) were not interesting for me (no Weapon X in the selector, too few Titan shards and far above), and so on).
A kind of reasonable top, and in the end that was fine.
3) I would have appreciated selectors instead of keys.
Even if I understand the reason (invite to spend more for the champion( s ) the player wants), I think that was unnecessary. In the pool I don’t think there were really better champions that the others, nor absolute beast.
So no absolute wish (even after a look at their respective spotlight) but a little one : Medusa. With 3 keys, it remains unsatisfied. I will discover my refreshed Sentry, Sentinel and Purgatory soon.
4) Very good idea to disable the champions already pulled. This mechanism would/will be useful for future events and offers.
5) The content of the superior greater Banquet crystal were not nice.
As many players, I bought and opened them, knowing the result would be disappointed, and it was.
Difficult to reasonably find a balance.
In my opinion:
- Too low rates on some items
- Not enough iso (with so much level up to do on 7* …)
- Not enough t6cc shards (getting several 7* on December implies wanting to upgrade them quickly)
- Not enough gold (rank and level ups…)
I know that the game follow a pace of progression for the players. So some items cannot be given too easily. And the upgrades are an objective for the couple of weeks and months from now.
6) I would have appreciated to access to the Omega Days pool (more easily if it was in the Banquet). This pool is far more interesting than some others for me (Corvus, Quick, Mole).
Once again, thanks to the MCOC team for the best month of the game until now. It gave me a boost for a couple of months.
And happy new year to the MCOC team and the community!