Nightmare raids broke?

So people are reporting korg is hitting ba k with 11k thorns damage per hit

And weapons is healing at the start of a fight if I hadn't used os, he would be at full health in seconds

@kabamcrashed @kabamdork @kabampinwheel

Comments

Newman0067

Is Korg fixed now then or nah?

Who knows? Kabams gone to bed now, you have to wait to know if you can enter RAIDS safely. Just lucky theyre not a time based thing

Bugmat78

Glad my alliance leader talked me into waiting out the first edition of this nightmare. The champion pool gretly reduced in both RAIDs and now the bugs... Kabam is always trying to change way too much too quickly w/o testing properly.

o_o

And of course no mods have been on the forums in a bit. At some point they need to take an all hands on deck approach to new content launching so they can react a bit better to the bugs they keep letting sneak through.
We're here seeing everything, like always.

Going to bring these two issues to the Raids team to see what's up
Is 4l0ki not doing nightmare raids? Are you not seeing the issues with Korg for yourself? What are your 4l0ki alliance mates saying?
4L0ki is doing Nightmare Raids and has not had any issues thus far - Purgatory & Kitty have been MVPs.

I've been chatting with the folks in charge of Raids to see if any issues went unaccounted for.

Nice, but Purgatory and Kitty are both assault… any MVPs in the other roles?

Mixtapevol02

Ok guys. Purgatory is goated and the mvp for these raids. Using prowess ender boost, I’m hitting the max cap against weapon X and Jabari with one SP3. The fight is over so fast I can’t even build up max charges for my mates. I’ve been using her for content and she’s a banger in BG’s. She might be my favorite mystic and first mystic R4.

What rank is she? And dupe required?

o_o

And of course no mods have been on the forums in a bit. At some point they need to take an all hands on deck approach to new content launching so they can react a bit better to the bugs they keep letting sneak through.
We're here seeing everything, like always.

Going to bring these two issues to the Raids team to see what's up
Is 4l0ki not doing nightmare raids? Are you not seeing the issues with Korg for yourself? What are your 4l0ki alliance mates saying?
4L0ki is doing Nightmare Raids and has not had any issues thus far - Purgatory & Kitty have been MVPs.

I've been chatting with the folks in charge of Raids to see if any issues went unaccounted for.
Nice, but Purgatory and Kitty are both assault… any MVPs in the other roles?

Most of the vanguard pool seems not super well suited to these raids

Hunter_Sarc0

And of course no mods have been on the forums in a bit. At some point they need to take an all hands on deck approach to new content launching so they can react a bit better to the bugs they keep letting sneak through.
We're here seeing everything, like always.

Going to bring these two issues to the Raids team to see what's up

Also look at Weapon X. It doesn't seem to be blocking your healing or anything.

WeaponX2112

I know Korg is still a good defender and the objective of Nightmare Raids is to be more difficult than the regular ones. But why even use a defender that needs his awakened ability to really be a problem when you intend to turn off part of it(debuff purifying), and reduce the other part(thorns damage)? It just seems like asking for trouble in a game mode that's already almost always bugged with every new version.

ShodaiHighkage

Why not introduce raids in beta server first, let us test it without wasting our REAL resources, and you can find out how badly you messed up before releasing it?

PT_99

KEBEM launching new mode without game breaking bugs is impossible these days.

ButteredPopcorn8008

I know Korg is still a good defender and the objective of Nightmare Raids is to be more difficult than the regular ones. But why even use a defender that needs his awakened ability to really be a problem when you intend to turn off part of it(debuff purifying), and reduce the other part(thorns damage)? It just seems like asking for trouble in a game mode that's already almost always bugged with every new version.

Lmao

BringPopcorn

Jeez the thorn damage is ridiculous

heehee

Is Korg fixed now then or nah?

They tuned his damage reflect but if you don't have a counter its GGs for you. If one of your teammates does he'll have to solo korg.

Tx_Quack_Attack6589

And of course no mods have been on the forums in a bit. At some point they need to take an all hands on deck approach to new content launching so they can react a bit better to the bugs they keep letting sneak through.
We're here seeing everything, like always.

Going to bring these two issues to the Raids team to see what's up
Is 4l0ki not doing nightmare raids? Are you not seeing the issues with Korg for yourself? What are your 4l0ki alliance mates saying?
4L0ki is doing Nightmare Raids and has not had any issues thus far - Purgatory & Kitty have been MVPs.

I've been chatting with the folks in charge of Raids to see if any issues went unaccounted for.
Nice, but Purgatory and Kitty are both assault… any MVPs in the other roles?
Most of the vanguard pool seems not super well suited to these raids

Guardian

Maitreya_

Still too much thorns damage, it would be way better if they don’t speak in terms of tune down and we choose accordingly to a defender we all know, say nothing next time

MoShizzle

So... You guys having fun? I havent joined mine yet lol.

A blast actually!

Mixtapevol02

So... You guys having fun? I havent joined mine yet lol.
A blast actually!

Which buff did you choose?

MoShizzle

So 4loki isn't having issues? I think you've proved my previous post to be accurate. Top 10%. Heck..top 1%. Quick everyone..pull out that r3 sig 200 Purgatory that I know everyone has.
Korg's Thorns may be currently bugged / overtuned - as I said, I spoke with the Team and they're actively investigating now.

Additionally, to this point, Nightmare Raids were intentionally designed to be very very hard.
This was always the intention and advertised as such immediately.
Respectfully, this is a poor response, having those two statements side by side.

To the extent representations were made about what this would look like, it isn’t functioning as intended and advertised. A warning that it’s hard doesn’t absolve the game team of the responsibility to deliver a working product.

How many alliances typically opt in for raids? How many can reasonably be expected to complete this? The top half? Top third? Less?

My ally is nowhere near top and we are already at Apoc with no problem on left path. We used Omega Sentinel, Juggs, & Iron Heart

MoShizzle

So... You guys having fun? I havent joined mine yet lol.
A blast actually!
Which buff did you choose?

Critical Armor

Amanda_Cruze

Nightmare raids is broken.
Normal raids we are not getting charges.

Stop the raids and don't release it till its fixed.

MoShizzle

Kabam (Osaurus) Rex

Alright folks, I'm back after fighting Korg myself - his purify chance is effectively down to 0, so he can't shrug those stuns.

Are y'all going for a Parry > LLLL twice to remove his Rock Shield before completing the Raid Prompts?

I'm not saying that the Thorns Damage isn't over-tuned, the Game Team will evaluate everything for Round 2 - but from my understanding, the Thorns seem to be completely avoidable as well.

Help me understand what I'm missing here?

Kabam (Osaurus) Rex

Additionally, we were able to push out a fix for Weapon X where his Signature Ability Regen won't be able to bypass "Always Forward" any longer, so those giant ticks of health at the start of the fight shouldn't be able to bring him above the HP where he started the fight.

SpacemanSpiff

Alright folks, I'm back after fighting Korg myself - his purify chance is effectively down to 0, so he can't shrug those stuns.

Are y'all going for a Parry > LLLL twice to remove his Rock Shield before completing the Raid Prompts?

I'm not saying that the Thorns Damage isn't over-tuned, the Game Team will evaluate everything for Round 2 - but from my understanding, the Thorns seem to be completely avoidable as well.

Help me understand what I'm missing here?

I mean you said it, the thorns damage is insane. For those having to face Korg on the far right lane, with the medium prompts, there isn’t enough time while the shield is down to make any significant progress.

DarthMystic

Alright folks, I'm back after fighting Korg myself - his purify chance is effectively down to 0, so he can't shrug those stuns.

Are y'all going for a Parry > LLLL twice to remove his Rock Shield before completing the Raid Prompts?

I'm not saying that the Thorns Damage isn't over-tuned, the Game Team will evaluate everything for Round 2 - but from my understanding, the Thorns seem to be completely avoidable as well.

Help me understand what I'm missing here?

I guess the best way to describe the frustration of the right lane korg fight is to say it's similar to the invisible woman shield issue only we have to takedown the shield not only to do damage but also to complete any prompts. In addition if you're a little slow gaining fervor the first penance now makes him stun immune so now you have to light intercept three times to get to be able to complete half the 4m prompt.

Kabam (Osaurus) Rex

Folks, let's keep the personal attacks toward other Forum members here to a minimum.
It isn't productive and does nobody any good - we all want the same thing, for the Game to be in the best spot that it can be.

Kabam (Osaurus) Rex

Alright folks, I'm back after fighting Korg myself - his purify chance is effectively down to 0, so he can't shrug those stuns.

Are y'all going for a Parry > LLLL twice to remove his Rock Shield before completing the Raid Prompts?

I'm not saying that the Thorns Damage isn't over-tuned, the Game Team will evaluate everything for Round 2 - but from my understanding, the Thorns seem to be completely avoidable as well.

Help me understand what I'm missing here?
I guess the best way to describe the frustration of the right lane korg fight is to say it's similar to the invisible woman shield issue only we have to takedown the shield not only to do damage but also to complete any prompts. In addition if you're a little slow gaining fervor the first penance now makes him stun immune so now you have to light intercept three times to get to be able to complete half the 4m prompt.

So what I'm gathering here is that the main frustration resides mostly in the Korg on the right side where you possibly need to complete Medium Attacks right out of the gate to get the ball rolling and ramp your teammates.
That makes sense to me.

Djrb

Alright folks, I'm back after fighting Korg myself - his purify chance is effectively down to 0, so he can't shrug those stuns.

Are y'all going for a Parry > LLLL twice to remove his Rock Shield before completing the Raid Prompts?

I'm not saying that the Thorns Damage isn't over-tuned, the Game Team will evaluate everything for Round 2 - but from my understanding, the Thorns seem to be completely avoidable as well.

Help me understand what I'm missing here?

This is an absurd response… they will evaluate for round 2… so basically struggle and unit our way through this round … another example of content not being tested before its rolled out… 2 of the 3 defenders are bugged

DarthMystic

Alright folks, I'm back after fighting Korg myself - his purify chance is effectively down to 0, so he can't shrug those stuns.

Are y'all going for a Parry > LLLL twice to remove his Rock Shield before completing the Raid Prompts?

I'm not saying that the Thorns Damage isn't over-tuned, the Game Team will evaluate everything for Round 2 - but from my understanding, the Thorns seem to be completely avoidable as well.

Help me understand what I'm missing here?
I guess the best way to describe the frustration of the right lane korg fight is to say it's similar to the invisible woman shield issue only we have to takedown the shield not only to do damage but also to complete any prompts. In addition if you're a little slow gaining fervor the first penance now makes him stun immune so now you have to light intercept three times to get to be able to complete half the 4m prompt.
So what I'm gathering here is that the main frustration resides mostly in the Korg on the right side where you possibly need to complete Medium Attacks right out of the gate to get the ball rolling and ramp your teammates.
That makes sense to me.

Exactly. If you're vanguard for instance you're punished right out the gate for bringing any champ other than guardian.

raziel

So 4loki isn't having issues? I think you've proved my previous post to be accurate. Top 10%. Heck..top 1%. Quick everyone..pull out that r3 sig 200 Purgatory that I know everyone has.
Korg's Thorns may be currently bugged / overtuned - as I said, I spoke with the Team and they're actively investigating now.

Additionally, to this point, Nightmare Raids were intentionally designed to be very very hard.
This was always the intention and advertised as such immediately.

I found another bug. I wanted to fnish weapon X on my lane and bought a couple of those 200 unit revives. You cant use them. They're in the inventory, but they're not visible in the "revive champ" screen.

Wicket329

Alright folks, I'm back after fighting Korg myself - his purify chance is effectively down to 0, so he can't shrug those stuns.

Are y'all going for a Parry > LLLL twice to remove his Rock Shield before completing the Raid Prompts?

I'm not saying that the Thorns Damage isn't over-tuned, the Game Team will evaluate everything for Round 2 - but from my understanding, the Thorns seem to be completely avoidable as well.

Help me understand what I'm missing here?
I guess the best way to describe the frustration of the right lane korg fight is to say it's similar to the invisible woman shield issue only we have to takedown the shield not only to do damage but also to complete any prompts. In addition if you're a little slow gaining fervor the first penance now makes him stun immune so now you have to light intercept three times to get to be able to complete half the 4m prompt.
So what I'm gathering here is that the main frustration resides mostly in the Korg on the right side where you possibly need to complete Medium Attacks right out of the gate to get the ball rolling and ramp your teammates.
That makes sense to me.
Exactly. If you're vanguard for instance you're punished right out the gate for bringing any champ other than guardian.

You’re also punished for bringing Guardian because you can’t contribute any real damage to the fight.