i fundamentally disagree with how nightmare RAIDS are designed.
i think if players are skilled enough and have a big enough roster and they're in a dedicated alliance who keeps up with the game, they should be able to comfortably clear a map with the revives they're given.
we should never have to spend units on revives for rewards that tank in value so fast. old RAIDS sucked because the feeling of pulling chunks of t6cc was terrible, now imaging asking players to spend on that.
having very difficult ARES-style solo endgame content is great, but not for regularly repeating content like RAIDS where it's mandatory and where the rewards plummet in value.
Kabam is more tolerant in this situation than I would be. You're indirectly encouraging boycotting and telling people they can spend if they choose. I get being frustrated. Passive aggressive threats aren't going to resolve issues any faster. This is a glorified tantrum.
Except they're not even exiting, just being drama queens about it...
Players need Kabam to validate the time, money, and emotional energy they've poured into the game. They're not just players—they're people who've made this game part of their identity, their self-worth, their routine, their fake social circle. So when Kabam screws up, they don’t just get mad at a company—they feel personally betrayed, like a parent let them down.
That's why all these complaints sound so emotional. “Please listen to us.” “We just want to be heard.” “We used to have fun together.” It’s not consumer feedback—it’s the emotional language of neglected attachment. Kabam isn’t just a service provider anymore; it’s mommy and daddy.
And when someone says, “Why are you still living at home if you hate your parents?” They're the bad guy who needs to be insulted and drowned out.
What validation are you seeking calling everyone drama queens for being frustrated with the game they used to enjoy? Why do you feel compelled to spend a great deal amount of time here telling everyone to just leave quietly? Why don’t you just go enjoy the game you think is perfectly tuned quietly and quit posting here?
You don’t seem concerned about any effect people leaving will have on the game. And if that’s the case - why do you care if they sound off on concerns? Seems like the only thing that might happen differently is that Kabam starts moving faster on these issues - which you would necessarily benefit from. So it’s a win-win for you… unless you are chasing some other validation from Kabam employees to go along with it.
Kabam is more tolerant in this situation than I would be. You're indirectly encouraging boycotting and telling people they can spend if they choose. I get being frustrated. Passive aggressive threats aren't going to resolve issues any faster. This is a glorified tantrum.
What even is the less tolerant option? Banning us? Or just telling us to shut it? Even if you think people are being hysterical I can’t imagine either of those being seen as sensible choices.
Not promoting a boycott on the Fourm would be a start. People are free to air their frustrations within the rules of the Forum, but there was a time when anything to do with a boycott would be removed from here. I'm sorry, but the "I'm not saying you should but if you choose to...." malarkey isn't going to cut it with me.
Good thing you aren’t the intended audience, I do not think one person on here cares if it “isn’t going to cut it” with you. There are glaring issues with the game and none of that changes because you don’t like what people are saying. Vega didn’t post that in the forums and the OP did not post it to start a boycott. You need to do better.
Can someone explain to me why there is a difference between "I'm not going to spend any more money on this game until they address my complaints" and "I'm not going to play or discuss this game anymore until they address my complaints"? Do people just not value their own time as worth anything? Or are they addicted to the game and not spending money is the biggest leap they can take while still holding onto their addiction?
I'm certainly not going to speak for Vega as he's fully capable of doing that for himself (also, he'll probably say I'm wrong - just kidding Vega) but the gist I got from his video is that - and this I agree with - for him spending is not purely transactional. It isn't like shopping for groceries, say, where you need oranges and milk so you go buy oranges and milk. It is in part a desire to support the game and the game development. And if he is not happy about the state of the game or the direction of the game's development, that prompts him to decide not to spend as a way to communicate that disagreement.
It doesn't necessarily mean he hates the game or dislikes playing it or interacting with it altogether. It simply means the desire to play the game and the desire to financially support it come from two different places.
I don't spend because I feel I need to, and without spending I couldn't enjoy playing the game. I'm pretty sure I would enjoy playing the game just as much if I was still a starving student that couldn't spend on it. I spend in large part because I can afford to do so, and I want to support the game I play. And I think Vega feels similarly. Deciding to spend in the first place is a personal decision, and everyone makes that decision for their own reasons that should be respected. Deciding not to spend is also a personal decision that should also be respected, and Vega is choosing to articulate why he's made that decision to the people who care about and respect his opinions. I don't always agree with Vega, but I generally respect his positions including this one.
Can someone explain to me why there is a difference between "I'm not going to spend any more money on this game until they address my complaints" and "I'm not going to play or discuss this game anymore until they address my complaints"? Do people just not value their own time as worth anything? Or are they addicted to the game and not spending money is the biggest leap they can take while still holding onto their addiction?
I'm certainly not going to speak for Vega as he's fully capable of doing that for himself (also, he'll probably say I'm wrong - just kidding Vega) but the gist I got from his video is that - and this I agree with - for him spending is not purely transactional. It isn't like shopping for groceries, say, where you need oranges and milk so you go buy oranges and milk. It is in part a desire to support the game and the game development. And if he is not happy about the state of the game or the direction of the game's development, that prompts him to decide not to spend as a way to communicate that disagreement.
It doesn't necessarily mean he hates the game or dislikes playing it or interacting with it altogether. It simply means the desire to play the game and the desire to financially support it come from two different places.
I don't spend because I feel I need to, and without spending I couldn't enjoy playing the game. I'm pretty sure I would enjoy playing the game just as much if I was still a starving student that couldn't spend on it. I spend in large part because I can afford to do so, and I want to support the game I play. And I think Vega feels similarly. Deciding to spend in the first place is a personal decision, and everyone makes that decision for their own reasons that should be respected. Deciding not to spend is also a personal decision that should also be respected, and Vega is choosing to articulate why he's made that decision to the people who care about and respect his opinions. I don't always agree with Vega, but I generally respect his positions including this one.
I agree, up to a point. I think the words we choose on a platform have an effect. You can encourage or discourage people when you have a somewhat larger platform. I would prefer if he simply chose to say he was no longer spending, rather than use the buzzword "boycott", as well as include it on the thumbnail. Perhaps a bit of clickbait advertising, but that also has effects that snowball.
Not asking for attention but I do want to point the fact that Nick Fury’s sp1 has been bugged for well over 4 months now and nothing has been done about, despite it being reported multiple times.
It’s identical to spirals, but with Nick this is a massive part of his defensive capabilities! And it should be fixed, especially when you can block it with Mister Sinister and Kushala who can block unblockable attacks.
Kabam is more tolerant in this situation than I would be. You're indirectly encouraging boycotting and telling people they can spend if they choose. I get being frustrated. Passive aggressive threats aren't going to resolve issues any faster. This is a glorified tantrum.
Except they're not even exiting, just being drama queens about it...
Players need Kabam to validate the time, money, and emotional energy they've poured into the game. They're not just players—they're people who've made this game part of their identity, their self-worth, their routine, their fake social circle. So when Kabam screws up, they don’t just get mad at a company—they feel personally betrayed, like a parent let them down.
That's why all these complaints sound so emotional. “Please listen to us.” “We just want to be heard.” “We used to have fun together.” It’s not consumer feedback—it’s the emotional language of neglected attachment. Kabam isn’t just a service provider anymore; it’s mommy and daddy.
And when someone says, “Why are you still living at home if you hate your parents?” They're the bad guy who needs to be insulted and drowned out.
What validation are you seeking calling everyone drama queens for being frustrated with the game they used to enjoy? Why do you feel compelled to spend a great deal amount of time here telling everyone to just leave quietly? Why don’t you just go enjoy the game you think is perfectly tuned quietly and quit posting here?
You don’t seem concerned about any effect people leaving will have on the game. And if that’s the case - why do you care if they sound off on concerns? Seems like the only thing that might happen differently is that Kabam starts moving faster on these issues - which you would necessarily benefit from. So it’s a win-win for you… unless you are chasing some other validation from Kabam employees to go along with it.
He’s a kabam defender and so is demonzfyre
I would love for you to quote something I said in this thread and explain how I'm defending Kabam. Seriously, I'm both baffled and intrigued by your delusional logic....
For me, personally, I've watched too many Vega videos previously that supposedly reflect how players are feeling about the game and he ultimately goes on to belittle and demean those people by dressing up and doing a caricature to highlight how ridiculous we are for being upset.
If his new video is genuine then I'd like to think he would be magnanimous enough to tolerate us ridiculing him, when he decides there's a genuine problem.
Otherwise, this may just be an attempt to curry favor with the community today, before he releases another video championing Kabam next week, in a 180° strategy to help their PR. Watch this space, folks!
Can someone explain to me why there is a difference between "I'm not going to spend any more money on this game until they address my complaints" and "I'm not going to play or discuss this game anymore until they address my complaints"? Do people just not value their own time as worth anything? Or are they addicted to the game and not spending money is the biggest leap they can take while still holding onto their addiction?
I'm certainly not going to speak for Vega as he's fully capable of doing that for himself (also, he'll probably say I'm wrong - just kidding Vega) but the gist I got from his video is that - and this I agree with - for him spending is not purely transactional. It isn't like shopping for groceries, say, where you need oranges and milk so you go buy oranges and milk. It is in part a desire to support the game and the game development. And if he is not happy about the state of the game or the direction of the game's development, that prompts him to decide not to spend as a way to communicate that disagreement.
It doesn't necessarily mean he hates the game or dislikes playing it or interacting with it altogether. It simply means the desire to play the game and the desire to financially support it come from two different places.
I don't spend because I feel I need to, and without spending I couldn't enjoy playing the game. I'm pretty sure I would enjoy playing the game just as much if I was still a starving student that couldn't spend on it. I spend in large part because I can afford to do so, and I want to support the game I play. And I think Vega feels similarly. Deciding to spend in the first place is a personal decision, and everyone makes that decision for their own reasons that should be respected. Deciding not to spend is also a personal decision that should also be respected, and Vega is choosing to articulate why he's made that decision to the people who care about and respect his opinions. I don't always agree with Vega, but I generally respect his positions including this one.
I would prefer if he simply chose to say he was no longer spending, rather than use the buzzword "boycott", as well as include it on the thumbnail. Perhaps a bit of clickbait advertising, but that also has effects that snowball.
Agreed. The word "boycott" is thrown around too carelessly. It's been done many times in this game and far far far too much currently in the real world to the point it has lost meaning.
I choose not to spend because some of what I spend, no matter how small a percentage, goes to pay the salary of the Kabam MCOC forum mods and I just can not allow that.
Can someone explain to me why there is a difference between "I'm not going to spend any more money on this game until they address my complaints" and "I'm not going to play or discuss this game anymore until they address my complaints"? Do people just not value their own time as worth anything? Or are they addicted to the game and not spending money is the biggest leap they can take while still holding onto their addiction?
I'm certainly not going to speak for Vega as he's fully capable of doing that for himself (also, he'll probably say I'm wrong - just kidding Vega) but the gist I got from his video is that - and this I agree with - for him spending is not purely transactional. It isn't like shopping for groceries, say, where you need oranges and milk so you go buy oranges and milk. It is in part a desire to support the game and the game development. And if he is not happy about the state of the game or the direction of the game's development, that prompts him to decide not to spend as a way to communicate that disagreement.
It doesn't necessarily mean he hates the game or dislikes playing it or interacting with it altogether. It simply means the desire to play the game and the desire to financially support it come from two different places.
I don't spend because I feel I need to, and without spending I couldn't enjoy playing the game. I'm pretty sure I would enjoy playing the game just as much if I was still a starving student that couldn't spend on it. I spend in large part because I can afford to do so, and I want to support the game I play. And I think Vega feels similarly. Deciding to spend in the first place is a personal decision, and everyone makes that decision for their own reasons that should be respected. Deciding not to spend is also a personal decision that should also be respected, and Vega is choosing to articulate why he's made that decision to the people who care about and respect his opinions. I don't always agree with Vega, but I generally respect his positions including this one.
I agree, up to a point. I think the words we choose on a platform have an effect. You can encourage or discourage people when you have a somewhat larger platform. I would prefer if he simply chose to say he was no longer spending, rather than use the buzzword "boycott", as well as include it on the thumbnail. Perhaps a bit of clickbait advertising, but that also has effects that snowball.
I think this has come around full circle, to the point where I'm not offended any more when someone just speaks the word "boycott." Once upon a time, it was a highly charged word, and so people abused it for their own purposes. But that happened often enough that the word lost all its potency, to the point where it became practically a cause for ridicule, not a call to action. This has been happening for so long now that I think all the power of the word, in both directions, has been diluted to the point where it just means what the dictionary says it means, and not a lot else.
So while it is click-baity, this is Youtube we're talking about. On a scale of one to generic AI science channel, its like a three at best.
Can someone explain to me why there is a difference between "I'm not going to spend any more money on this game until they address my complaints" and "I'm not going to play or discuss this game anymore until they address my complaints"? Do people just not value their own time as worth anything? Or are they addicted to the game and not spending money is the biggest leap they can take while still holding onto their addiction?
I'm certainly not going to speak for Vega as he's fully capable of doing that for himself (also, he'll probably say I'm wrong - just kidding Vega) but the gist I got from his video is that - and this I agree with - for him spending is not purely transactional. It isn't like shopping for groceries, say, where you need oranges and milk so you go buy oranges and milk. It is in part a desire to support the game and the game development. And if he is not happy about the state of the game or the direction of the game's development, that prompts him to decide not to spend as a way to communicate that disagreement.
It doesn't necessarily mean he hates the game or dislikes playing it or interacting with it altogether. It simply means the desire to play the game and the desire to financially support it come from two different places.
I don't spend because I feel I need to, and without spending I couldn't enjoy playing the game. I'm pretty sure I would enjoy playing the game just as much if I was still a starving student that couldn't spend on it. I spend in large part because I can afford to do so, and I want to support the game I play. And I think Vega feels similarly. Deciding to spend in the first place is a personal decision, and everyone makes that decision for their own reasons that should be respected. Deciding not to spend is also a personal decision that should also be respected, and Vega is choosing to articulate why he's made that decision to the people who care about and respect his opinions. I don't always agree with Vega, but I generally respect his positions including this one.
I agree, up to a point. I think the words we choose on a platform have an effect. You can encourage or discourage people when you have a somewhat larger platform. I would prefer if he simply chose to say he was no longer spending, rather than use the buzzword "boycott", as well as include it on the thumbnail. Perhaps a bit of clickbait advertising, but that also has effects that snowball.
I think this has come around full circle, to the point where I'm not offended any more when someone just speaks the word "boycott." Once upon a time, it was a highly charged word, and so people abused it for their own purposes. But that happened often enough that the word lost all its potency, to the point where it became practically a cause for ridicule, not a call to action. This has been happening for so long now that I think all the power of the word, in both directions, has been diluted to the point where it just means what the dictionary says it means, and not a lot else.
So while it is click-baity, this is Youtube we're talking about. On a scale of one to generic AI science channel, its like a three at best.
Sure. Also, it's me nitpicking because it's his channel, after all.
I think the problem is Kabam uses good will and positivity from the player base much like a politician will use political capital. Kabam accrues favor with the community by putting out really good content, giving away resources, free 7* champs and stuff like that. Then they use that favor to implement some unfavorable decisions. In this instance Kabam went into the end of December riding high off the 10 year anniversary. They gave away tons of resources, 7* champs, even introduced a whole new kind of champion and gave the first one free no less. There was so much positivity around the game. Then came the downfall starting with the banquet event and almost countless Ls for the community since. I think it's safe to say they're out of favor and need to build it back up. Maybe next time leave something in the tank.
Can someone explain to me why there is a difference between "I'm not going to spend any more money on this game until they address my complaints" and "I'm not going to play or discuss this game anymore until they address my complaints"? Do people just not value their own time as worth anything? Or are they addicted to the game and not spending money is the biggest leap they can take while still holding onto their addiction?
I'm certainly not going to speak for Vega as he's fully capable of doing that for himself (also, he'll probably say I'm wrong - just kidding Vega) but the gist I got from his video is that - and this I agree with - for him spending is not purely transactional. It isn't like shopping for groceries, say, where you need oranges and milk so you go buy oranges and milk. It is in part a desire to support the game and the game development. And if he is not happy about the state of the game or the direction of the game's development, that prompts him to decide not to spend as a way to communicate that disagreement.
It doesn't necessarily mean he hates the game or dislikes playing it or interacting with it altogether. It simply means the desire to play the game and the desire to financially support it come from two different places.
I don't spend because I feel I need to, and without spending I couldn't enjoy playing the game. I'm pretty sure I would enjoy playing the game just as much if I was still a starving student that couldn't spend on it. I spend in large part because I can afford to do so, and I want to support the game I play. And I think Vega feels similarly. Deciding to spend in the first place is a personal decision, and everyone makes that decision for their own reasons that should be respected. Deciding not to spend is also a personal decision that should also be respected, and Vega is choosing to articulate why he's made that decision to the people who care about and respect his opinions. I don't always agree with Vega, but I generally respect his positions including this one.
I agree, up to a point. I think the words we choose on a platform have an effect. You can encourage or discourage people when you have a somewhat larger platform. I would prefer if he simply chose to say he was no longer spending, rather than use the buzzword "boycott", as well as include it on the thumbnail. Perhaps a bit of clickbait advertising, but that also has effects that snowball.
If it snowballs and more people stop spending then even better, maybe then they'll finally start listening and doing whatever they want with their game. They're the developers but we are the players, you need both for a game to survive.
We’re finally seeing the impact of layoffs and the skeleton crew that runs the game currently vs what they had years ago
This is spot on, it's truly ambitious to want to see a game go for ten years plus and hit the milestone. It's another thing to gut the core of the game teams to focus on profit only it will run the game straight into the ground. It should be the opposite, you invest in the game completely with dedicated teams so that there is balance. It's not just about end game or whales but everyone who enjoys the game.
I can only speak on BG’s as of currently as i havent been in a alliance for some time. Battlegrounds is the biggest thing that gets people to play daily outside of alliance related activities. BG’s is in such desperate need of new rewards its not funny. Six star shards for the solo event in the big 2025 just is not cutting it anymore. More than half of the solo event is useless.
If this was 2023 still BG’s rewards would feel great but its not anymore. To anyone boycotting go ahead and its deserved. Im only spending something if it’s really insane myself. I hope to see BG’s in a better state soon.
It must be hard to design content that is both challenging *and* fun. I feel they nailed it with Epoch - especially the Ares fight.
Nightmare raids are challenging, which I think we’re all fine with… but they are extremely not fun.
Fun comes in many different ways for many different type of people.
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Np, glad you understood. Just short to say Epoch is neither fun or challenging although you believe they nailed it. Nightmare raids is a joke but I will agree it's also not fun.
Love Vega as a creator and a dude. Appreciate his take on the situation and understand where he's coming from. Obviously this isn't a snap your fingers and its fixed situation, but this is definitely heard and we're passing it along to the team.
I honestly got nothing against you, I actually appreciate the interaction you have with peoole and the fact that you are in touch with us. The situation as of now is not about being heard. I make fun about "passing it to X team" quite often. We want to believe we are being heard and that's only 50% of the problem. Even if we are being heard there seem to be no action. Fine its not deaf ears anymore; its just a stack of messages in a suggestion box.
Yup no thats super fair. Words without action are just words, even if its nice to hear them. Unfortunately from my spot here right now all I have are words to offer in addition to what I can do internally to try and communicate player sentiment. Dork, Rex, and I are all working on that, but all we can say for right now is the fact that we are.
Know that's not enough right now but its what I got. Can hopefully bring more in the future. Appreciate the understanding
Can we not hear from your side then?
Why has it gotten to this point for the team to do something? What was the plan? Has this plan now changed?
I don't understand how a game that has been successful for 10-years has these issues there a things that have never been addressed, issues coming way too frequently from lack of play testing, lack of updating reoccurring content and rewards and be at this point.
It's almost like you guys don't learn from mistakes or actually listen to the players
Kabam is more tolerant in this situation than I would be. You're indirectly encouraging boycotting and telling people they can spend if they choose. I get being frustrated. Passive aggressive threats aren't going to resolve issues any faster. This is a glorified tantrum.
Except they're not even exiting, just being drama queens about it...
Players need Kabam to validate the time, money, and emotional energy they've poured into the game. They're not just players—they're people who've made this game part of their identity, their self-worth, their routine, their fake social circle. So when Kabam screws up, they don’t just get mad at a company—they feel personally betrayed, like a parent let them down.
That's why all these complaints sound so emotional. “Please listen to us.” “We just want to be heard.” “We used to have fun together.” It’s not consumer feedback—it’s the emotional language of neglected attachment. Kabam isn’t just a service provider anymore; it’s mommy and daddy.
And when someone says, “Why are you still living at home if you hate your parents?” They're the bad guy who needs to be insulted and drowned out.
What validation are you seeking calling everyone drama queens for being frustrated with the game they used to enjoy? Why do you feel compelled to spend a great deal amount of time here telling everyone to just leave quietly? Why don’t you just go enjoy the game you think is perfectly tuned quietly and quit posting here?
You don’t seem concerned about any effect people leaving will have on the game. And if that’s the case - why do you care if they sound off on concerns? Seems like the only thing that might happen differently is that Kabam starts moving faster on these issues - which you would necessarily benefit from. So it’s a win-win for you… unless you are chasing some other validation from Kabam employees to go along with it.
He’s a kabam defender and so is demonzfyre
I would love for you to quote something I said in this thread and explain how I'm defending Kabam. Seriously, I'm both baffled and intrigued by your delusional logic....
People want change and we can’t even talk about it here because all you will do it deny it.
The community wanted a change in bg rewards/milestones
Lagacy made a video and now Vega.
Look at all the downvotes you been getting and arguing against everyone here nobody is on your side 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
You just be great at parties 😂🤣😂
Literally no one cares about what YOU THINK,we just want kabam to know and hurry that rewards in general in the game are outdated
We are getting valient eq in may and thats along time in mcoc time.
And who knows when kabam update bg rewards might be next season or they will wait till season 30
People just wanna voice there concerns because nothing is changing.
Keep arguging against it because your the one in denial
Kabam is more tolerant in this situation than I would be. You're indirectly encouraging boycotting and telling people they can spend if they choose. I get being frustrated. Passive aggressive threats aren't going to resolve issues any faster. This is a glorified tantrum.
Except they're not even exiting, just being drama queens about it...
Players need Kabam to validate the time, money, and emotional energy they've poured into the game. They're not just players—they're people who've made this game part of their identity, their self-worth, their routine, their fake social circle. So when Kabam screws up, they don’t just get mad at a company—they feel personally betrayed, like a parent let them down.
That's why all these complaints sound so emotional. “Please listen to us.” “We just want to be heard.” “We used to have fun together.” It’s not consumer feedback—it’s the emotional language of neglected attachment. Kabam isn’t just a service provider anymore; it’s mommy and daddy.
And when someone says, “Why are you still living at home if you hate your parents?” They're the bad guy who needs to be insulted and drowned out.
What validation are you seeking calling everyone drama queens for being frustrated with the game they used to enjoy? Why do you feel compelled to spend a great deal amount of time here telling everyone to just leave quietly? Why don’t you just go enjoy the game you think is perfectly tuned quietly and quit posting here?
You don’t seem concerned about any effect people leaving will have on the game. And if that’s the case - why do you care if they sound off on concerns? Seems like the only thing that might happen differently is that Kabam starts moving faster on these issues - which you would necessarily benefit from. So it’s a win-win for you… unless you are chasing some other validation from Kabam employees to go along with it.
He’s a kabam defender and so is demonzfyre
I would love for you to quote something I said in this thread and explain how I'm defending Kabam. Seriously, I'm both baffled and intrigued by your delusional logic....
Look at all the downvotes you been getting and arguing against everyone here nobody is on your side 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
"Delusional logic" or not, counting downvotes isn't an actual argument. It's just a moronic, meaningless metric used in echo chambers like reddit & here on the forums.
Can someone explain to me why there is a difference between "I'm not going to spend any more money on this game until they address my complaints" and "I'm not going to play or discuss this game anymore until they address my complaints"? Do people just not value their own time as worth anything? Or are they addicted to the game and not spending money is the biggest leap they can take while still holding onto their addiction?
I'm certainly not going to speak for Vega as he's fully capable of doing that for himself (also, he'll probably say I'm wrong - just kidding Vega) but the gist I got from his video is that - and this I agree with - for him spending is not purely transactional. It isn't like shopping for groceries, say, where you need oranges and milk so you go buy oranges and milk. It is in part a desire to support the game and the game development. And if he is not happy about the state of the game or the direction of the game's development, that prompts him to decide not to spend as a way to communicate that disagreement.
It doesn't necessarily mean he hates the game or dislikes playing it or interacting with it altogether. It simply means the desire to play the game and the desire to financially support it come from two different places.
I don't spend because I feel I need to, and without spending I couldn't enjoy playing the game. I'm pretty sure I would enjoy playing the game just as much if I was still a starving student that couldn't spend on it. I spend in large part because I can afford to do so, and I want to support the game I play. And I think Vega feels similarly. Deciding to spend in the first place is a personal decision, and everyone makes that decision for their own reasons that should be respected. Deciding not to spend is also a personal decision that should also be respected, and Vega is choosing to articulate why he's made that decision to the people who care about and respect his opinions. I don't always agree with Vega, but I generally respect his positions including this one.
I agree, up to a point. I think the words we choose on a platform have an effect. You can encourage or discourage people when you have a somewhat larger platform. I would prefer if he simply chose to say he was no longer spending, rather than use the buzzword "boycott", as well as include it on the thumbnail. Perhaps a bit of clickbait advertising, but that also has effects that snowball.
If it snowballs and more people stop spending then even better, maybe then they'll finally start listening and doing whatever they want with their game. They're the developers but we are the players, you need both for a game to survive.
Maybe there won't be a game and people will not have anything to complain about. There's a whole misconception that they're not paying enough attention, and that's just not the case.
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i think if players are skilled enough and have a big enough roster and they're in a dedicated alliance who keeps up with the game, they should be able to comfortably clear a map with the revives they're given.
we should never have to spend units on revives for rewards that tank in value so fast. old RAIDS sucked because the feeling of pulling chunks of t6cc was terrible, now imaging asking players to spend on that.
having very difficult ARES-style solo endgame content is great, but not for regularly repeating content like RAIDS where it's mandatory and where the rewards plummet in value.
He’s going f2p until July 4th deals lol
He’s a kabam defender and so is demonzfyre
It doesn't necessarily mean he hates the game or dislikes playing it or interacting with it altogether. It simply means the desire to play the game and the desire to financially support it come from two different places.
I don't spend because I feel I need to, and without spending I couldn't enjoy playing the game. I'm pretty sure I would enjoy playing the game just as much if I was still a starving student that couldn't spend on it. I spend in large part because I can afford to do so, and I want to support the game I play. And I think Vega feels similarly. Deciding to spend in the first place is a personal decision, and everyone makes that decision for their own reasons that should be respected. Deciding not to spend is also a personal decision that should also be respected, and Vega is choosing to articulate why he's made that decision to the people who care about and respect his opinions. I don't always agree with Vega, but I generally respect his positions including this one.
Not asking for attention but I do want to point the fact that Nick Fury’s sp1 has been bugged for well over 4 months now and nothing has been done about, despite it being reported multiple times.
It’s identical to spirals, but with Nick this is a massive part of his defensive capabilities! And it should be fixed, especially when you can block it with Mister Sinister and Kushala who can block unblockable attacks.
Seriously, I'm both baffled and intrigued by your delusional logic....
If his new video is genuine then I'd like to think he would be magnanimous enough to tolerate us ridiculing him, when he decides there's a genuine problem.
Otherwise, this may just be an attempt to curry favor with the community today, before he releases another video championing Kabam next week, in a 180° strategy to help their PR. Watch this space, folks!
I choose not to spend because some of what I spend, no matter how small a percentage, goes to pay the salary of the Kabam MCOC forum mods and I just can not allow that.
So while it is click-baity, this is Youtube we're talking about. On a scale of one to generic AI science channel, its like a three at best.
In this instance Kabam went into the end of December riding high off the 10 year anniversary. They gave away tons of resources, 7* champs, even introduced a whole new kind of champion and gave the first one free no less. There was so much positivity around the game. Then came the downfall starting with the banquet event and almost countless Ls for the community since.
I think it's safe to say they're out of favor and need to build it back up. Maybe next time leave something in the tank.
Deleted it.
It's not worth it.
Game dies or lives forever.
Don't care.....
Moving on..
Insightful
It should be the opposite, you invest in the game completely with dedicated teams so that there is balance. It's not just about end game or whales but everyone who enjoys the game.
If this was 2023 still BG’s rewards would feel great but its not anymore. To anyone boycotting go ahead and its deserved. Im only spending something if it’s really insane myself. I hope to see BG’s in a better state soon.
Why has it gotten to this point for the team to do something? What was the plan? Has this plan now changed?
I don't understand how a game that has been successful for 10-years has these issues there a things that have never been addressed, issues coming way too frequently from lack of play testing, lack of updating reoccurring content and rewards and be at this point.
It's almost like you guys don't learn from mistakes or actually listen to the players
People want change and we can’t even talk about it here because all you will do it deny it.
The community wanted a change in bg rewards/milestones
Lagacy made a video and now Vega.
Look at all the downvotes you been getting and arguing against everyone here nobody is on your side
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You just be great at parties 😂🤣😂
Literally no one cares about what YOU THINK,we just want kabam to know and hurry that rewards in general in the game are outdated
We are getting valient eq in may and thats along time in mcoc time.
And who knows when kabam update bg rewards might be next season or they will wait till season 30
People just wanna voice there concerns because nothing is changing.
Keep arguging against it because your the one in denial
"Delusional logic" or not, counting downvotes isn't an actual argument. It's just a moronic, meaningless metric used in echo chambers like reddit & here on the forums.