Please put some more thought into these BG metas Kabam

Why exactly was there an aggressive node in the last meta but not in the current one that is fully dependent on the AI dashing?

You guys are actually getting worse by the day, there's almost zero common sense between everyone involved. I should not be able to take down a defender in 30 seconds and then redo the fight and it takes over double the time because the AI won't cooperate, this game SHOULD NOT be AI dependent ffs.

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Asher1_1

agree the aggressive node changes the ai so much 🤷

Ragnarok13

you’re being aggressive

Rippler39

It's been like that for a while now, AI changes according to the metas and defenders, like we all know how Enchantress is. During Invade meta they never held block when you needed them to, while In Foresight they won't dash towards you. They are aware of this AI tantrum yet they'll never fix it, that's how it is.

CrashOut

That's the issue with kabam, they know they have issues but make no attempt to resolve them.

They made a comment claiming the AI is pure random and isn't aware but then metas like this prove different and Kabam are both incapable of fixing it and unwilling to improve it

Anotherconcernplayer

I have seen quite a few threads about BG metas and it got me think, and I think the bottom line is, it is NOT the metas.

Please bare with me, background I'm not a high skill or play high in BG (only around Gamma) and also only have a moderate account size.

I feel like the current challenge in BG is down to 2 things, Champion Design and Gap between Big Spenders and Small Spenders.

1 - The design of very challenging/specific Defenders that require very specific hard counters (which are usually newly released champs).

With this, win or lose are a lot more dependant on the draft and which whether you got the latest must have Def and Ark

2 - This lead to the second points, spending, constant sales and exclusive champs.

The amount of Sales with exclusive OP champs, as well the hard Def and Counter, enable big spenders an exclusive and OP dex both in term of Def and Atk, which "can" enable a less skilled players still win because of Dex size.

Overall Dex size have a stronger impact over skill in BG (for general players). If a players beat in a "hard" meta, they will beat in a "easy" meta. There isn't any meta that are able to counter the affect of those 2 points above, which is an accumulation of a year and a hald of champion design and increase of sales event. It just now the affect is very view.

The only difference between a "hard" and "easy" meta is whether you beat the AI or the AI beat you.

At the top end of BG this matter less, as most players are at skill account size, skill and knowledge. But we don't see many top end players without certain Sales Exclusive champs, heck even Lagacy had to participate in a Sales event (that he hate, think the value is poor) just so he can compete.

The really challenging part is I don't know what would be the solution unless Kabam can find an alternative way to generate cashflow that they feel they need to.

The Breaking News is, next meta will be tough and so is the one after that and so.

CrashOut

I 100% agree with your points, the champions being primarily defenders and needing specific counters makes the mode massively draft dependant but Kabam refuse to even acknowledge because it makes them money

For me, I have an expamsive deck, I have played Masters and top level BG and outside of the draft it is AI that is ruining the mode, most of the techniques I learned in the past no longer work because the AI frame rate has changed, the AI has adapted to what is going on and the nodes attached to them to hold specials when gaining power, be more aggressive when needing to hit their block, be more passive when needing to intercept etc and Kabam have proven time and time again they cannot fix this, it is rhe same issue that persists with dropped inputs, Kabam aren't good enough.

The least they can do is try, they have nodes that affect the AI, make then more aggressive, more passive, more likely to throw a specific special attack etc that work so why would they not just add these into BG nodes? We saw it for the summoner brawl 2 years ago, they had an aggressive node so spectators didn't watch the player dancing around for 30-seconds they need to this to every meta

PT_99

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868715#Comment_2868715

Make him hold block

Anotherconcernplayer

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2868795#Comment_2868795

Hi @CrashOut ,

After reading your post and watch some MCOC CC YT, I definitely agreed with your point of AI issue too, with Kabam know that current issue with AI, they could have, as you said "put more thought into designing these BG metes" under the current environment.

Also my apologies if my previous sound a bit aggressive or patronising, definitely not mean it to be, I guess I just annoy with those 2 issues too, but with you being at Master AW, sure you know alot more about high skill gameplay than me.

Anyway, we can only hope Kabam would take notice on these BG metas I'm the future.

CrashOut

No need to apologise! We are all at different stages of the game, mine is a stage after 10-years 😂

There's different parts that are difficult for different people, those who don't spend struggle with roster, those who have played less struggle with all the different combinations of abilities/nodes and most of these can be overcome by grinding/practice or (unfortunately) spending but AI is completely out of anyone's control

We used to be able to play certain ways to get certain actions from the AI, like hitting block, dash back and light intercept but now the AI moves too quick and hits you in the face, punished some specials now isn't possible mainly because the ai is always to skip frames that we can't. This combined with AI refusing to throw specials (watch nick136s latest vid on rhino, 3 taunts ans onslaught won't throw a sp2!) Refusing to dash, holding block etc takes away all skill, roster advantage and experience and in my opinion ruins the competitive aspect if the game