Dazzler v. Solvarch

I’d love a detailed explanation of why this is a bug, and what the fix is… because no matter how many times I read the interactions it’s working in the correct order of operations and it looks like a High IQ play the team is trying to clawback. That said I didn’t work out the numbers here so maybe it’s hitting harder than it should? But if it’s fixed in a way that an attacking Dazzler takes physical damage that would be wrong per the way it’s written up

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Onepieceisnotreal

the only way to do this without touching dazzler, would be changing solvarch’s damage to disintegration.

ahmynuts

A better question would be for you to provide a detailed explanation as to what you think the correct interaction is

Herbal_Taxman

agree OP, certainly looks like it’s working as intended.

BigPoppaCBONE

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/404041/dazzler-v-solvarch

I wonder if they'll change Dazzler's text to "on hit" when they cap the interaction to only activate once or just cap it and not change any text. I think it worked as described and I'm absolutely shocked that Kabam was surprised by it. Seriously though, how did they not test that interaction? There aren't many ping-pong/cascading/megaramp/instadeath interactions. It would be a short list.

BigBlueOx

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2879830#Comment_2879830

yeah… I mean hey limited her to reflecting physical damage but then forgot about it when making a tech champ that punishes energy damage with physical damage. Really not understanding how they can call it a bug unless the numbers are off

ahmynuts

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2879979#Comment_2879979

They didn't call it a bug

Furrymoosen

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2879981#Comment_2879981

Yeah, it is working as intended, they just don't like it. And I get that they don't like it, and thankfully this isn't a scenario where Dazzler is only good for this fight and players aren't (or shouldn't be) ranking her just for this interaction. But at the same time, it's one champ - just leave it alone. Who knows what they're going to mess up correcting their oversight.

ahmynuts

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2879985#Comment_2879985

I agree. Im just correcting op since everyone has jumped on the bandwagon that kabam thinks this is a bug when its just something they never tested and are fixing live (AGAIN)

Also yeah the claim of "i ranked dazzler for this" shouldnt really he valid but we'll see what happens

Furrymoosen

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2879986#Comment_2879986

Name a better combo than Kabam and never testing a single thing.

horrendous_too

So the only thing I can think of where it might be a bug is if it constantly bouncing back and forth increasing. Like to me it seems like 1 round should be fine. You attack solvarch with energy, he gives back physical thorns, you give it back as energy, he heals his half or whatever and done. But if it just cycles back and forth till he dies in one hit that seems broken.

There was an issue similar to this with Namor on one eye open and they changed it so you get the one reflect and then it stops. So if they go that way I think it is fair balance wise. But if they just decide oh actually we mean direct damage cause no mutants should escape, then that's dumb.

Magrailothos

As others have said, it's an unintended interaction rather than a bug. Although, with retrospect, kind of predictable.

Solvarch hasn't gone through the rebalance process yet; so, if they make a solution within Solvarch's kit, to prevent an infinite damage loop, then that seems fine to me.

Changing Dazzlers kit would seem to be less 'fair game'.

BigBlueOx

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2879981#Comment_2879981

I mean if you really wanna be the tech grammar police, enjoy that cookie man.

That said what else do you call fixing an unintentional interaction in a live service game? Especially pushing a fix outside of the “balancing” window…

But sure let’s hyper fixate on terms.

Furrymoosen

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2880041#Comment_2880041

The interaction may be unintended, but both Dazzler and Solvarch are working perfectly fine according to their kit. Semantics or not, it's not a bug if everything is working correctly.

SirGamesBond

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2880042#Comment_2880042

That is true.

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But its also true that this broken interaction is not intended. They need to "FIX" this without changing thier attacker/defensive kits.

Like horrendous mentioned in previous comment, they did fix the namor interaction mostly beacuse of its unintended nature, I remember it was in AQ.

ahmynuts

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2880041#Comment_2880041

Funny how the guy hyperfixating on a term and then getting bent out of shape about it is trying to come at someone for correcting him.

BigBlueOx

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2880076#Comment_2880076

ok grammar guy