Spiderwoman's AAR is too "confusing" .... but the Pacify mastery has existed for years

Per the balance update post

Similarly, the Ability Accuracy Reduction isn’t potent enough to encourage using it as a solution to defensive encounters, but was strong enough to add confusing interactions across the game.

Then why have players had to deal with the confusing interactions from the Pacify Mastery the entirety of the game's existence??

The Pacify mastery is similarly 'not potent enough to encourage using it as a solution to defensive encounter', but it is 'strong enough to add confusing interactions across the game'.

Comments

ahmynuts

Good point! A voice shouted down from the bleachers to the side.

Newman0067

The pacify mastery is situational, only on stuns. Same with Assassins and below 18%. That debuff from spider woman was the entire fight which applies on a timer. If you were a new player and didnt know much about the game, it would completely throw you off.

ahmynuts

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2880494#Comment_2880494

Serpent, Enchantress, Bullseye, Dark Phoenix.
Enjoy your moot argument

Newman0067

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2880498#Comment_2880498

Moot point not, its the reasoning behind what Kabam has stated. We have reasons to be complaining, this change for spider woman isnt one. Hell, if you want something to complain about you could do me a favour and get kabam to fix Modoks precision buff. Im missing an awful lot of crits during my specials for what should be 10,000 extra crit chance.

altavista

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2880494#Comment_2880494

Sure, but if you're using "think of the new player" and "timers" for arguments, why are Arc Overload nodes and most other node interactions acceptable?

And, per your logic, Karolina's swapping sunlight would also throw off new players yet Kabam is fine releasing complicated champions in general.

Chuck_Finley

Kabam should just be honest.

“We are doing thing because we want to… because we can. Too bad losers; cry more. Don’t forget the next sale. See you then, lol”

Until the last two sentences aren’t true for the whales, just expect more disconnected nonsense. This game is being run by bean counters. it’s a shame they waste energy trying to gaslight us with fake logic and gaming buzzwords (balance, economy, etc)… seems like the bean counters could save some money if they avoided that too.

Ercarret

I think they could have handled the rebalancing better, and if it is like they say that they've only really identified a defensive problem, then keeping the debuff on attack shouldn't be an issue.

That being said, I hate that debuff when fighting her. All of your abilities have a 30% chance to fail on and off for the entire fight. Yes, Serpent and Bullseye and a bunch of other champions are super menaces on defense, but they typically work predictably. Bullseye always gains his evade charge when he gains a bar of power; Enchantress does throw random spells, but how you dispel them are the same from fight to fight; Serpent is a giant pain in the butt due to his power gain, Pierce and increasing attack rating per Culforce charge etc, but that's the same each fight so at least you know what'll happen every time you face him. But when you're fighting Spider-Woman, it's just a constant clown fiesta where you never know if something's going to work or not. They're basically making her less like Domino, and I appreciate that.

Troy_Elric123

Technology exists for champion abilities to only work on defense and offense. Many champs have reduced or increased potency to abilities while on defense. All kabam has to do is take her ensnared while on defense to 0 potency or 1 or something. But they refuse coz money money.

Zuro

Them saying this while Domino is in the game is hilarious. Spider-Woman was actually one of the few annoying defenders I could reliably take with several champs outside her full counters, unlike BS champs like Serpent, Yelena, Dark Phoenix, Nico, etc.

altavista

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2880931#Comment_2880931

Lol, great point.

I looked at the champion spotlight for Domino, and she also has the same "Defender Champion Attribute being a 3.5 out of 5."

But apparently Kabam "will be removing the Ensnare Debuff from her kit so that Attackers are not pressured with a long-lasting Ability Accuracy Reduction on a regular basis" but are fine with Domino randomly causing AAR on a regular basis.

Apparently, it is okay to counter Domino's AAR by just bringing a champion with AAR resistance, but players can't handle trying to counter Ensnare.

ahmynuts

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2881019#Comment_2881019

Lends more credence to the theory that Celestial and T1 war players were the ones crying directly to Kabam for this change

JhonST33

You only need launch a special before the timer expires, is that so hard? , I don't think so. Since spider woman is almost an instant rank 3 or 4 (if possible) once you got her, kabam should give RDT once the nerf arrives.