Alliance Wars Seasons Discussion Thread

Summoners!

We've just announced an exciting new addition to The Contest! Alliance Wars Seasons are coming! Alliance Wars Seasons are going to be the most competitive new mode in the game, and will be the go to place for all of the rarest items in the game!

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DNA3000

Kotogaii wrote: »

@Kabam Miike do you have any response at all to the overwhelming negativity? I read through 4 pages of comments and saw only 1 comment defending this system and it was a guy in the top 300.

I found five separate posters in the first three pages, not counting posters who appeared to be fine with the system but only posted counter-arguments for other players or made quips.

Kotogaii wrote: »

I love the grinding aspect of the game, but even in the top 1500 tier (which will be flatout unattainable for the average alliance no matter how hard you work towards it) it would take 10 months to earn a 6 star!! In the same period of time the top 20 alliances will have earned five 6*s!!

Well of course the average alliance can't reach top 1500 when there are over 30,000 alliances. The average alliance is approximately rank 15000, or about Bronze 1 tier. But you appear to have read the rewards wrong. Assuming the rewards remain the same and the season duration remains the same, a top 20 alliance would have earned three 6* champs in the same time a top 1500 alliance earned one. Rank 20 gets only three times the 6* shards as rank 1500, which doesn't seem out of whack at all. Only one alliance gets 10,000 6* shards for the season, and that's Master 1 - i.e. the top alliance period. Exactly one alliance gets that reward.

SuperChrona

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Summoners!

It looks like we forgot to mention one very important thing in the original post! I've seen a number of you commenting that there is not enough progression materials in the Gold brackets. Well, if you look at the Rewards again, you'll notice that next to the Tier 4 Class Catalyst Crystals, there are some Black Crystals.

These are Seasons Crystals. Seasons Crystals contain only Tier 2 Alpha Fragments and Tier 5 Basic Fragments, with a small chance to score an entire Tier 2 Alpha Catalyst!

Wow that makes the jump even bigger between 300 and 301. WAY TO GO KABAM :-(

Gold 1 should get 9k alpha tier 2 shards and 2000 tb5 shards. That would be a way for it being more fair and not just a creditcard/unit battle about getting into the execlusive top 300 club!!!!!

Whung

@Kabam Miike

I just have a question. Let’s say I join 4 different alliance within a season. Each of them I do at least 5 wars. At the end. I got 4 different rewards or only the last alliance one ?

Gladiator09

But 2 months??!! We have to wait ?? 60 days for these rewards...
Why I’m already tired thinking about it

lerkdajerk

Kotogaii wrote: »

@Kabam Miike do you have any response at all to the overwhelming negativity? I read through 4 pages of comments and saw only 1 comment defending this system and it was a guy in the top 300. Maybe you dont realize what it takes to get into the top 300 (diddy money and years of playing) which I find it highly unlikely that you dont, or you just flatout dont care whatsoever about the average players. I love the grinding aspect of the game, but even in the top 1500 tier (which will be flatout unattainable for the average alliance no matter how hard you work towards it) it would take 10 months to earn a 6 star!! In the same period of time the top 20 alliances will have earned five 6*s!! Idk what 6* Ratings will be starting off but let's say they start at 5k, the top 20 alliances would gain a rating of 750k in that time period just off of unranked 6*s where top 1500 gain a measly 150k in the same period. This doesn't even begin to cover the exponential increase that would occur because of the top 20 routinely gaining the materials needed to rank these 6*s up. Are you seeing the enormous gap youre creating by having such small brackets and such huge dropoffs in rewards? This system keeps everyone in the same spot they're in. I get that the game has to make money, but you're literally only making the top money spenders happy and giving a huge **** you to the guys who can't afford to throw all their families money into the game

i disagree and ill tell you why. Exactly one year ago my alliance was a 6 mil alliance and not close to being a top 300 alliance. We all worked hard for a year in an alliance that had very little turnover. We still have most of our core but did lose people to having other priorities. None of us have Diddy money or at least I know for sure I dont. We are now a 15 mil alliance and in the top 100. So all I'm saying is if your alliance works hard enough you can get in the top 300. Let the changes take place before you complain. None of us know how it will be and who knows maybe everyone in the top 300 will hate it.

Darkness82

This is exciting but for the love of this game kabam don’t make it too long in the future for aw seasons but way to go keep up the good work Kabam

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Gladiator09

OMG!!!! The rewards for each match in wars still suck !

So for any decent rewards you have to wait for 2 months....wth these guys think it would be acceptable to the community.

Kabam thinks we need to grind for wars for straight 2 months..NO thanks 🙏🏼

#RIPWARS
#RIPFEATUREDCRYSTALS

Nomercy_4_you

Haji_Saab wrote: »

The increased war rewards (apart from season rewards) are actually just 50 more shards.... smh.

Yeah,thats kabam baby,there are know better )))

Born

Wow the new rewards for a war victory suck!! What happened to the 4* shards? Will be worse off now in the long run considering 4* dupes give is 275 5* shards. These rewards need to be looked at again. Must be some sort of mistake...

Hulksmasshh

@Kabam Miike can you verify that the split of the old tier 1 into 3 tiers was sorted correctly? My alliance is currently ranked 19 in war rating and placed in tier 3 (.6% - 1%). That would mean with 18 alliances ahead of us, tier 2 consists of around 14 alliances (.2% - .5%) and tier 1 consist of around 4 alliances (top .1%). This is assuming best case scenario where rank 19 alliance is around .6%, it would be even less if there are higher ranked alliances in tier 3. By this logic, the cutoff for tier 3 (top 1%) should be no greater than the top 40 alliances. Just want to verify if that is right.

Nomercy_4_you

New rewards for AW, ridicilous smal,omfg ,whats going on to the game ,whats happening to kabam? Why your all innovations is such a dissappointing your almost all players,just think about it

Mafia868

@Kabam Miike
Please little more questions..
1- for ally doing 2 BG wars is it effects on the rewards and how's different ?
2- for the jumpers , we all suffered from those so if we brought new members during the season running will Missed all rewards ? Or need to do 5 wars at least ?
3- for who doing 2 BG .. is only one from the alliance who shared on the full season who will got the rewards , or just doing 5 wars during this season?

Voluntaris

bump to per war rewards very "meh".

also, it appears that most if not all of the very top AW alliances are all in "tier 3" ... even the 3rd ranked AW alliance is tier 3.

Urrymonster

Multipliers work both ways right? So you win more, but lose more at the higher levels... so those in lower tiers can catch alliances who lose a few on the bounce...

Primmer79

Urrymonster wrote: »

Multipliers work both ways right? So you win more, but lose more at the higher levels... so those in lower tiers can catch alliances who lose a few on the bounce...

You don't lose points for losing though. You still get points and theyd be multiplied. So losing a war in tier 1 can be just as beneficial as winning a war in tier 8 or whatever.

RagamugginGunner

Call me extremely underwhelmed by the new rewards.

Gabbros

Multipliers will greatly impact an alliance’s score. Just imagening the difference in score between playing map5 vs map6 is clearly apparent. I am seeing a top30 aw alliance in tier3. Please elaborate how you guys place an alliance into which tier.

In my opinion, you guys should reduce the reward difference between each bracket a bit more. Although it will depend on how much more t2a and t5b will become available, based kn current standing, it seems too much of a difference between lets say a platinum1 or 2 vs top ranks in master bracket. Another suggestion is to broaden the master bracket more.

Nomercy_4_you

Gabbros wrote: »

Multipliers will greatly impact an alliance’s score. Just imagening the difference in score between playing map5 vs map6 is clearly apparent. I am seeing a top30 aw alliance in tier3. Please elaborate how you guys place an alliance into which tier.

In my opinion, you guys should reduce the reward difference between each bracket a bit more. Although it will depend on how much more t2a and t5b will become available, based kn current standing, it seems too much of a difference between lets say a platinum1 or 2 vs top ranks in master bracket. Another suggestion is to broaden the master bracket more.

Exactly,kabam hate us,i think!

PoisonDatura

So @Kabam Miike my quastion is... how many alliances there are in first 1% ? If is 300 then only 1% of all alliance have chance to take t2 alpha,right?

Tsunani

This tier placement seems broken to me

IAmNotUrMom

PoisonDatura wrote: »

So @Kabam Miike my quastion is... how many alliances there are in first 1% ? If is 300 then only 1% of all alliance have chance to take t2 alpha,right?

Pretty much, unless you get lucky and pull one from the seasons crystal.

Fabi1989

Why No Alli is in Tier 1 and 2?

Fabi1989

@Kabam Miike @Kabam Zibiit

Is this a bug that not one Alli is in Tier 1?

clamch0wder

I think the reason all alliances are in Tier 3 is so that everyone starts at the same level/tier.

If you have alliances that are already in 1 & 2, which means they are already ahead of everyone else, which is extremely unfair for those that have to fight an uphill battle.

But, my question is, when will winning and loosing actually count?
Starting today? or Starting on the first war of the new season?

(what's up Fabi!)

clamch0wder

Fabi1989 wrote: »

Avi wrote: »

Hello Team Kabam...
thanks for new AW Season.. just want to know that, in new aw season you guys will reset war rating or not because some big alliances left their original alliance and create new alliance for easy wars.. now they can again come to their original alliance coz you guys giving better rewards for better rank.. which is pretty unfair for gold and platinum bracket alliance.. hope you will understand us..i am attaching some pic where top alliance left there original alliance and now all members of that alliance is in low tier in aw for easy wins

thats BS, xilem don’t switch the Alliance in an Low Alliance. Xilem goes down because Kabam Change skill war to no skill war

Indeed. Season 2's changes made it that skills does not matter.
Xiliem, an AW focused alliance, once at #2, disbanded because alliances with more and higher rated champs would've won without any efforts or skills.

DNA3000

Gladiator09 wrote: »

OMG!!!! The rewards for each match in wars still suck !

So for any decent rewards you have to wait for 2 months....wth these guys think it would be acceptable to the community.

Kabam thinks we need to grind for wars for straight 2 months..NO thanks 🙏🏼

#RIPWARS
#RIPFEATUREDCRYSTALS

Kabam added rewards and made it worse? Okay. I think you should protest by sitting out alliance wars until they reduce the rewards again. It would be helpful if you could get as many other players who think likewise to join you.

ZBTtarget

Anyone else’s matchmaking broken? Been over 2 hours searching for a war.

Gladiator09

@DNA3000 let me explain in simple language as you missed the whole point , I can only try

Wars rewards were due an update for long ? Yes?

So ,instead of increasing the rewards per match (they did but not really ) we need to grind for two months for any decent rewards.

My POINT is these rewards should’ve been broken down to each war match up instead of waiting for 2 months .

DNA3000

Gladiator09 wrote: »

@DNA3000 let me explain in simple language as you missed the whole point , I can only try

Wars rewards were due an update for long ? Yes?

So ,instead of increasing the rewards per match (they did but not really ) we need to grind for two months for any decent rewards.

My POINT is these rewards should’ve been broken down to each war match up instead of waiting for 2 months .

Maybe you should have said that, instead of trying to speak for the community by saying the added rewards was unacceptable to all of us, and ending your hyperbole with a #RIPWARS tag which kind of suggests that you think wars are not worth playing anymore. I can only respond to the words you use, not the thoughts in your head that never make it to the post.

Next time, you can skip "simple" and just stick with "language." I'll work it out from there.