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Yukzii_II

thoughts on this? (Goblin Queen - Madelyne Pryor)

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Blue_Eyed_Thing

ahmynuts

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WednesdayLength

Its the scythe of sorrows, commonly used by goblin queen. Given that there's a mystic unnamed character in the saga tags seems likely that she's coming with pixie next month

Fit_Fun9329

Searmenis

She may be Science though, since she was made by Sinister.

Sundance_2099

If she's Goblin Queen, she's got mystic powers, that would be mystic class, not likely she'll be science or mutant. (She's a Jean Grey clone…)

Gordon_X602

Well at least I know Havok is part of good synergy with her...

ItsClobberinTime

So exciting, now we wait for them to completely ruin another fan favorite just like they did with Dracula, Lizard and Blue Marvel.

Searmenis

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2930693#Comment_2930693

You forget Horse-Thor

Morpheos

Hopefully another perfect counter for Jean Grey in Battlegrounds and AW. Madelyne could either be Mutant, or Science, but I think Mystic will be the call. Hope she'll have some cool synergies with Havok, Magik, Gambit, Cable or maybe even Sinister. Looking forward to this one.

WednesdayLength

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2930693#Comment_2930693

You can't be out here saying they ruined Lizard lmao.

EdisonLaw

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2930788#Comment_2930788

And Sentry. Meanwhile a lesbian goth girl and an archer are the best champs in game (sarcasm)

GroundedWisdom

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2930818#Comment_2930818

I'm afraid the level of criticism is high. I don't necessarily share that same view.

ItsClobberinTime

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2930818#Comment_2930818

I have a r4 Lizard myself, he is pretty mid for a pure attacker and it has nothing to do with the damage or utility because both are good. It has more to do with how tight his rotation is and how low the chance to apply rupture is. His playstyle already requires a lot of AI cooperation because of the heavy punish thing (which makes no sense should've been just landing a heavy period), and there is zero reason for the chance to apply rupture both with and without the fervor to be as low as it is. He's certainly not as low as Blue Marvel and definitely not as low as Dracula but he's just good and that unfortunately isn't enough to make him relevant. Lizard was for many years my #1 most wanted villain in the game (my in-game name has Lizard in too lol) and all that wait for a champ that's "just good"? Yes they ruined him, his kit was very close to being great but they ruined it when they made his rotation so AI reliant at a time when AI issues have been running rampant. I could understand the reasoning behind the heavy punish thing specifically if he was at least was a strong defender but he sucks on defense with some very few exceptions like the current meta where he gains buffs, he is 90% of the time a pure attacker and useless on defense.

Genuinely don't understand how you can look at champs like Spider Woman, Scorpion, Photon, Red Guardian and think yep Lizard fits right in with all of these.

TheMostHated1

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2930818#Comment_2930818

Lizard is mid lol

ItsClobberinTime

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2931002#Comment_2931002

I don't blame him cause I don't think he plays BGs at a particular high level which is why he probably does get to use other okayish champs like Skrull but for me, if I run Skrull Lizard etc on most metas and try to get to M1 I'm 100% getting clapped and stuck in Q3 lmfao

ItsClobberinTime

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2930885#Comment_2930885

It's not that, if you spent a day playing in Mysterium or above you would realize why nobody uses these champs. You can't use them to compete when you get to a certain point, they work before that occasionally but after that particular point they just don't have enough firepower in them.

WednesdayLength

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2931011#Comment_2931011

I dont use skrull in bgs, I said that i could see his value in bgs if he was more readily available. I don't play high tier bgs but I play fairly consistently and push into gc every round for the most part and Lizard has done good for me lately as a general use attacker.

ItsClobberinTime

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2931018#Comment_2931018

He does well when you aren't facing people who finish most fights at 100% hp sub 45 secs but when you get to that point he falls off really quick.

Like I said it's not even that his damage and utility are bad, it's just that the rupture chance is a bit low and the heavy against non stunned opponents to pause mechanic is very dumb and unnecessary especially when paired up with AI's unpredictable behavior these days, it should've been heavy regardless of stun or no stun. It's just such an unnecessary weird thing to add to his kit they even made sure they added the "this effect does not trigger if the opponent was stunned during any of the hits" like just why? Lol he isn't anywhere near Tigra level why add so much complexity to a pause mechanic.

ahmynuts

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2931001#Comment_2931001

I have a r4 lizard too. Honestly if they just upped his rupture chance and maybe made it so you can get the pause while the enemy is stunned he would be so so much better

ahmynuts

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2931029#Comment_2931029

Nvm I see you said the exact same thing lol

ItsClobberinTime

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2931035#Comment_2931035

Yeah I'm pretty sure most people with a r4 Lizard would agree that those are the main gripes. He's already not that insane in terms of versatility, there is no reason for the rupture chance to be that low, should be closer to 35% not 25%. Also, no reason for that pause to be so hard and annoying to pull off maybe if it was a 30 second pause sure but a 15 second pause is nothing and can easily fall off all it takes is one defender with bad AI refusing to throw a special at two bars and there goes a chunk of your damage. It's just very stressful, love the way he deals damage and his animations but playing him is very stressful.