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Battleground Discussion

Dips11

I am deeply frustrated with the current state of Battlegrounds.

As it stands, the mode has shifted from a skill-based competition to a "roster-check" that alienates the majority of the player base in favor of high-spending "whales."

There are three critical issues that Kabam needs to address immediately:

1. The Failure of the Matchmaking Algorithm: It is statistically improbable that in a game with millions of players, every single matchup in Platinum II is against accounts holding "Legend" tags and rosters featuring multiple Rank 5 7-star champions.

The Discrepancy: My roster still relies on 6-star champions. Matching me against players with significantly higher-tier rosters ensures the outcome is decided before the draft even begins.

The Logic Gap: Why is the system unable to find parity? Competitive modes should pair players based on a combination of rank and roster strength to ensure a fair fight.

2. The Damage-Race Meta: Speed Over Skill

The decision to remove or nerf health pool points has proven to be a disaster for competitive balance.

Battlegrounds should be about who handles the defender better. However, by prioritizing speed/damage over health preservation, you have removed the "skill" element.

The Math Problem: A 7-star Rank 2 attacker cannot mathematically out-pace a 7-star Rank 4 or Rank 5 in a "nuke" contest, regardless of how well the person with the smaller roster plays. If I play a perfect, hitless fight and my opponent plays sloppily but finishes 10 seconds faster because of raw stat power, the game is rewarding roster depth rather than mechanical mastery.

3.By catering almost exclusively to the top 1% of spenders, you are creating a barrier to entry that is driving players away. Many of us want to participate in Battlegrounds, but the "automatic loss" feeling caused by lopsided matchmaking makes the mode a chore rather than an achievement.

These are my genuine feelings towards Kabam and particularly Battlegrounds

Comments

BringPopcorn

Point 1: There is not millions of players, and Legend title means absolutely nothing in the game. The means to get the title has nothing to do with money spent or skills.

Point 1 was dumb enough to even consider reading the other possible dumb points.

Dips11

Not my fault you’re dumb enough to get the picture @bringpopcorn

BringPopcorn

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2951680#Comment_2951680

I might not get the picture; but I got the Legend title by speed running lower EQ and a 2nd time by doing 25 rooms of Incursion. Now tell me, how does that give me or the "millions of players" an advantage in BGs?

Its not my fault you draw pictures like a 3 year old with crayons...

Dips11

You purposely left out the point of 7* R5, man if you’re bored just go find something to do.

BringPopcorn

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2951685#Comment_2951685

I already told you I stopped reading at point 1 cause it was dumb....

If 7R5s are the problem, do the content, you can get your own 7r5s for free. No Legend title though

Herbal_Taxman

The only thing worse than posts that misunderstand how matchmaking works are AI-generated posts that misunderstand how matchmaking works…

SgtPoliteness

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2951687#Comment_2951687

Which still doesn't help. Unless you have a full roster of r4s and Ascended champs, you are basically chum for the whales. An r3 going against an R5 has a 33% disadvantage in health and attack ratings. As that disparity grows, people are only going to be more and more discouraged from participating in the first place.

Last season had nobody scoring before Uru 2. I think the season before was the same. That means fewer than 24k players even made it to the GC for the past two seasons, which is a sign of poor participation.

BringPopcorn

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2951709#Comment_2951709

What exactly stops people from getting more r4s and r5s? Oh I know, wasting time in the most competitive game mode within the game with a roster full of 7r2s and 6*s...

Gotta learn to crawl before trying to run....

Skydad23

been away for two years. Matchmaking was never great. But has something changed because it seems far worse. I’ve started out as gold 2, I do not have any rank 4 7*s and all three of my first matches have had complete rosters of almost rank 4 7*s and a couple rank 5s one account did have four rank 3s

I have six 7* rank 3s the rest of my rosterThe rest of my roster are rank 2s

and 6* rank 5s.

I know I’m rusty and was never an elite player, but there’s almost 0 chance I can compete with these kind of rosters.

Is matchmaking now, not based on rosters?

Jerichoharris

re the skill point. I think that’s an over simplification. An opponent hitting you is time spent not hitting the opponent and working towards a KO. So to say that a fast time equals no skill simply isn’t true.

A clear advantage does fall within three groups. Firstly those with higher ranked rosters as they can do more damage and it takes more time to kill a r5 defender compared to an r4 defender. No question these players have a big advantage.

The second and third blend together. Those with a larger pool of high ranked champs to draw on, and those who understand and can use champs that rely on speed over safety.

A good example would be Nico as a defender with Spiderwoman and Human Torch as attacking options. Under previous metas you’d take spiderwoman every time. She’s poison immune and can take the fight relatively safely. HT will do the fight much faster but take a lot more damage. That damage doesn’t come because the player is less skilled, but comes simply as a result of using HT over spiderwoman. You have to take block damage and there’s no getting around it.

Two fights, one fast, one with high health and potentially no difference in the skill level of the player. Similar logic applies to Captain Britain as a defender. There are safe was to win and fast ways to win. Both require skill. Use the fast way without killing yourself in the process. There can be a very fine line there.

Inability to adapt to a new meta if anything demonstrates an absence of skill not the presence of it.

Will3808

@Skydad23 roster strength isn’t part of the matchmaking system. There are so many posts about the matchmaking system, and I’ve kinda sadly come to the conclusion that the currently system is the most fair version. To your other points, taking health points away is ridiculous and unfair. I’ve got a pretty big roster, and it still sucks, so I can’t imagine what it’d be like with a smaller roster. I’m pretty sure kabam said they’re only doing this for one season, but yeah it was a bad idea.

NomadWarrior

To everyone giving hate, the player has mentioned that their roster has 6 star champs. I think Elder players should be pitched against Elder players and everyone else basis their corresponding progression as well. I've repeatedly been placed against decks that have upward of 3 R5 7*s, I don't have a single one. Banning the R5s ussually means banning your top champs as well and most of the R5s have a stacked roster where their R4s are at Sig 200 as well - this is a fact its not fabrication.
Very simply, the bigger gun wins, repeatedly. So while its awesome that players have endgame skill and they've become Elder, pitching them against lower rank players in BG is not fair competition.

HuskerCool

Then play unranked matches

peixemacaco

"BG is not fair competition"

Loool Whuuut?

BG is the most fair mode.

Kabam did great remove attacker points, so no more pause.

What you're even saying?

Watch YT videos on how to dex and win on BG

Thanks Kabam 🥳

Gordon_X602

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/414742/battleground-discussion

Again is matching not matching the prestige of Summoner's deck or it's just merge of 5 placements? Correct me if I'm lost.

Rayven5220

Have all of you that are whining about your "underdeveloped rosters" actually stopped to think maybe you should do the content required to have a developed roster, rather than whining on the forums about how life isn't fair and omg kabam should make it more fair for us?

Bunch of entitled little pricks.

Put the work in, and you are rewarded with a developed roster that can compete.