Sigh…
Again level 26 being a requirement yet being impossible is just the anchor of proof that the math is wrong. The issue here and main thing to focus on is that it then shows that tiers 1 and 2 are also shifted up by 1, now requiring an average level of 11 and 16 to be obtained, unlike the intended and advertised average ranks of 10 and 15.
I’m well aware of the response, doesn’t mean I’m not going to correct you when you try to argue the issue here. The ranks and their connected average rank tied rewards were either incorrectly advertised or the math was done incorrectly when creating the solo milestones compared to their intended goal of the advertised average ranks of 10, 15 and 25 for each tier of rewards. It’s not this deep, they either messed up the slide show and lied to our face or the slide show is correct and someone did the math wrong when creating the milestones because they had an air head moment and didn’t think to account for wether or not level 1 would count. If it counts no need to adjust milestones accordingly, if level 1 intentionally doesn’t count then the math should of been adjusted to reflect it not counting WHILE ALSO matching the required rank averages advertised on the stream, which would be 54 and 84 additional ranks for an average level requirement of 10 and 15 instead of 60 and 90 additional ranks which is an average level of 11 and 16.
it’s just not setup how it was advertised, point blank period. The math is wrong and the players, no matter how big or small the error is should not be punished for Kabams oversight. The 6 ranks for a player like me who has hit every milestone may not matter but on the other hand there are plenty of summoners this issue will effect and if the math is there and the proof is in our face to point it out and get it corrected I’ll be here to get it done. I’m very pro Kabam when it’s warranted, I’m not here to slander anyone or break them down. I’m simply pointing out a very clear issue and asking it gets corrected so the summoners of the contest get credited properly so everything lines up as intended.
Thats as if a new event dropped that’s advertised to need level 64 to join but when it launches it’s actually requiring level 65. For those who are 65+ anyways it’s very easy for them to brush the issue off and say who cares. But for the players it does hurt who were advertised one thing to get excited but are faced with different requirements at launch will clearly be upset and that’s not fair to the community. The issue is there, regardless of why or how the issue came about it’s Kabams fault and they should fix it, we as players should never be punished for mistakes Kabam makes behind closed doors. That’s a them issue not an us issue, why should be be punished for that? Makes zero sense
bro could’ve gone out and actually earned six ranks in the time spent jabbering on this thread
takes 30 seconds to write something out, being anti player is just weird. I have all the milestones completed I don’t need the 6 points. That doesn’t mean this issue isn’t real and affecting tons of other players. It needs fixed, I don’t understand being anti player, just a gross look.
Also let’s not play stupid, without tons of spending 6 collective ranks in the average level 16 range are not quickly farmable. It will take weeks of grinding, people who are only missing 6 or less MAY have a shot at grinding out the newly discovered additional required ranks compared to what was advertised, yet alone people over 6 ranks away. It’s an issue and a big one that needs fixed, combating that makes you anti player which makes no sense. You’d assume when the game is in the state it’s in all players would be on the same page and be pro player but of course there’s still clowns who think people deserved to be punished for the companies oversight.
I’m the furthest thing from a Kabam shill, you can go read the years’ worth of critical comments if you want.
In this case, I think it’s poorly worded on Kabam’s part but the intent that you need to unlock 15 levels seems pretty clear to me. There is no level 0 anything in this game. So whether you start on 0 or 1, the achievement is to go 15 levels higher x 6 classes.
poorly worded in multiple cases ? It word for word says 10 in all 6 gives the tier 1 rewards and then Mike says an average level of 15 gives tier two which combats the idea of it being “bad wording” or “a typo” as other have said. Doesn’t sound like a coincidence which is what a typo would be, sounds like bad math behind the scenes when creating the solo milestones in comparison to the advertised rewards and their matching required average levels. The intent was clearly an average level of 10, 15 and 25. Nobody is saying we should start at zero, however we should either be credited for level 1 to correctly line up the advertised rewards and the required collective ranks orrrr the milestones should be properly adjusted to line up with the correct initially intended average levels advertised to us on stream.
Regardless if it’s a typo or not, either way it’s an issue on their end that we should not be punished for.. the math is clearly off in one scenario and in the other it’s a massive oversight that will cause some people to not meet the initially advertised reward requirements. Regardless in either scenario it’s not something we should feel the negative repercussions of 🤦🏻 I don’t understand the clawback by some of you.
I don't know if I'd say massive. An oversight, yes, but honestly, I'd bet you would have done the same thing (and yes, I know that you are going to say no way would you have done it).
To advertise one thing and then receive something else in game IS a massive oversight. Again, I’m sure most players who got the milestones regardless of the issue will act this way. Why care or even stress about it right? Screw it, doesn’t affect you right? Lol so lame, thousands of players being affected by this issue yet it’s not a massive problem? Grow up, any problem that harms or hinders the communities growth is a massive problem, this needs fixed asap.
Don’t forget everyone, they lied to his face.
I think it is also really important for us, who know what happened, to put attention to it, since you can be certain that most affected players don’t even know about it. They are close to getting one or two crystals from the objective and just look at it without knowing there might have been an oversight thinking they have no chance of getting the objective completed.
They lied to all of us clown, sorry I’m not going to roll over and take it like you. This is a massive problem and I won’t pretend like it’s not because I’ve already received all the rewards. Unlike most whales I actually care about the people not in my shoes who fight Kabam on their antics every month.
It’s easy to poke fun and troll when it’s not effecting you but I personally know tons of people who are being effected who are just sick of kabams **** being our problem.
I’m sure if you were being held back from multiple ascensions that were advertised to you at a certain level to then see the event doesn’t line up with what was advertised then you’d also be upset. Grow up, if you don’t think it’s a problem enjoy what you got and just ignore the thread, but your unnecessary two cents are unwanted if you’re just going to crack jokes and provide nothing beneficial to the conversation. It just screams anti player which again, a very ugly look.
If you want to break down a logical reason as to why it’s not an issue that doesn’t need fixed I’d love to hear it. Otherwise you’re just wasting time and making an ass out of yourself.
@Kabam (Osaurus) Rex , Can you please admit that this was an oversight, a mistake on your part, no comp will be issued and put an end to this thread!!
Exactly and it’s just sad to see, no matter how big or small people think the issue is… at the end of the day it’s an issue and it’s Kabams fault not ours. Why should any players get punished? It could be 1 player or it could be 1000 players, an issue on Kabams end should never be the players fault.
I personally have the milestones but I have multiple alliances members who do not due to this idiotic issue and I am willing to fight for what’s right in this situation regardless of having the rewards or not myself.
These are people who spend hundred of real life dollars every event, people who play daily in high tier war/events, investing time, units and energy on this game and for what? So Kabam can lie to us about rewards ? It just not right, I’ve broken down the math and pointed out all of the clear proof yet forum trolls still want to combat it as if there’s any harm in getting the issue fixed. Been swimming in trolls the last 12 hours on this post lol, happy to see someone with some sense again.
I mean an oversight on Kabams end that is hindering the rewards of the community would be followed by compensation to fix the issue so not sure why you’d think that. Just because they admit to it being an oversight doesn’t mean it isn’t holding the community back from the rewards they were intended to get.
admitting is one thing, that still doesn’t fix the issue. It’s just step one, owning up to your mistake! Step two is fixing said mistake now that you’ve owned up to it lol
False advertisement!!!
Money spent on the item 0, item advertised 0, cost of ranking up levels 0. Total investment 0.
This is at most innacurate description or instructions of an event, the loss from the mistake is 0 🤡 🤡 🤡
There's nothing to be fixed!!!
It seems to me like you're fixated on this. It’s pretty clear there was a small typo in the slide Mike showed during the presentation, but you can look at it in two ways. Actually, they basically gave us a free level because we’re starting from 1 instead of 0; so, with 14 promotions, you get the Level 15 rewards. That seems like a good thing to me (maybe a bug in our favor).However, for the objectives, it's a different story: the slide had an error, so with 14 promotions, you don't get the reward for 15. That’s all there is to it—it seems like a simple fact, and I don’t think it makes sense to make such a fuss just to get 6 free levels on the objectives too. And this is coming from someone who won’t even reach 90 and who would have found those 6 levels really useful
Exactly and the main reason is that even if you wanted there was absolutely nothing you could have done to get those 6 levels or work toward it. You either have the roster and mats to reach it or you don't.
Fixated? I’m advocating for a change I believe in, I’m not fixated I’m passionate for change in this community.
This is not how it works, you need 15 additional ranks on top of level 1, it is an average level of 16 not 15 as you’re insinuating. It’s not a typo, mike out of his own mouth says an average of 15, verbal confirmation of something is not a typo.
The words directly came out of his mouth. Sick of people trying to make the issue make sense. Any reason to protect Kabam for shorting their community and lying to our face.
“Oh it’s free stuff who cares”
the system was advertised in a certain way and released in another way. Regardless if it’s free or not I am going to hold the company to the standard of releasing content as intended and advertised. Just because it’s full of free stuff doesn’t mean it’s any different than when they ruin anything else in the game that the community complains about for fixes.
Your judgment is being clouded because you got a bunch of free crystals, there’s still clearly an issue and just because we got some free stuff doesn’t mean I don’t want the issue fixed. There’s plenty of people who are in range of the rewards that are being held back from them due to this error.
EVEN if it’s a typo that’s not how the world works 🤣😭 if you go to the store and something is $100 but it gets tagged and put on the shelf for $10 guess what happens ? You get the item for $10 🥳 That’s what happens when companies make mistakes, they pay for the mistake! Not the consumer
same concept, EVEN IF it was a typo that is NOT the communities fault, that’s kabams fault. You eat YOUR typo on the chin and provide to your players what YOU advertised to them. This is a company that gets millions of dollars shoveled into their pockets every year, am I crazy for expecting them to keep their word and provide what they offered? I mean the game is literally falling apart right now, every major creator is either quitting or going on vacation to get away from the game. The CCP members are literally talking smack to their Twitch viewers because all they care about is free drops, the game is literally dying BECAUSE we don’t hold Kabam accountable for their mistakes. They walk all over the community because of mindsets like this “oh it’s just a typo who cares” we should… we should care 🤦🏻 because you let them get away with it once they get away with it twice and so on. You have to hold companies accountable for their mistakes or else future mistakes get brushed under the rug as well. No matter how big or small the issue it’s an issue nonetheless and the community shouldn’t be hindered by Kabams mistake. Just like any other company they should eat the mistake on the chin and fix it.
go to the recent collectives livestream on YouTube, go to 47:00 and watch from there until 47:15 and PLEASE come back and tell me this is a typo…. Newsflash, YOU CANT 🤦🏻 It is very clearly VERBALLY being told to us that tier 1 rewards are recieved AT an average level of 10. Not an average level of 11 like it is setup in game, and not 10 additional levels. Mike very clearly and very obviously SAYS WITH WORDS (not a typo) it is received AT an average level of 10.
Not going to waste my time figuring it out but he does it AGAIN when taking about the tier 2 rewards, @Kabam (Osaurus) Rex himself is the one talking and explaining the reward breakdown. It’s not rocket science guys, it’s clearly not a typo. It released in a state that did not match the initially intended and advertised reward requirements. Everything is shifted up by 1 accidentally because someone didn’t think to account level 1. Which mind you can be done in multiple ways.
Don't even waste your breath trying to explain it to people anymore, bro. They're stuck seeing it the way they see it, no matter how much evidence and logic points in the other direction. Just wait to see what Kabam has to say about it eventually.
Nope he should keep yapping nonsense over and over and looking stupid in the process because he can't understand the difference between Collective Milestones and Special Objective points completed.
Its amusing, at least for me.
yeah brother you’re right, I’m just hard headed and am hoping it just clicks with them eventually. It’s just mind boggling that I’m laying out cold hard facts and proof and they’re still ignoring it and trying to combat it. If you watch the stream back it’s very very clear it’s not a typo.
it was obviously rushed out seeing we got it 2 days early anyways and the solo milestones dropped delayed compared to collectives. Why is it so farfetched I’ve found another issue with the release? It’s not It’s clear one person made the slideshow, a second person did the math to make the milestones and those two people clearly didn’t have a conversation with each other before it all launched.
If they did, the person who made the slideshow would inform the guy who made the milestones that if he doesn’t credit level 1 by either starting us at 0 or adjusting the milestones to correctly match what was advertised on stream then it would not correctly line up with the requirements advertised.
it’s just an error behind the scenes on Kabams end and we as players are being punished for their mistake and I’m just not ok with that. The math is there, the proof is here to be seen, it’s just painful to watch people try to defend it when it’s clear as day.
I understand the difference, you’re the airhead that’s choosing to ignore the verbal words that came out of mikes mouth on stream. On stream they directly tell us the requirements for the SOLO MILESTONES are achieved at the average ranks of 10, 15 and 25.
There’s no confusion on my end, they told us the average level required for both the collectives objectives AND the solo milestones and they’re THE SAME 🤦🏻
you’re treating it as two different things, they’re one in the same? They share the same average level requirements (or at least that’s how it was advertised, they’re not though which is the issue) why are you trying to act as if they’re not paired together and sharing level requirements? The objectives AND solo milestones are achieved together at the same time at the same level requirements, you’re acting as if receiving the advertised solo milestones rewards one level later than the collective objectives is what was was intended? It was very clearly told to us on stream that both are received at the same time.
again, this can be heard at 47:00-47:15 in the recent collectives live stream when referencing tier 1 rewards. It is then again referenced after that when talking about tier 2. Clearly not a typo, just a mistake behind the scenes and we as players shouldn’t pay for Kabams mistakes, ever.
So I made the mistake of being biased by an Alliance mate who told me that you got a point at 100%. It is not the case which explains the special objectives in a more simple way.
Objective described COMPLETE 90 rank ups. Which means you have to press the rank up button 90 times. As you and SummonerNR explained you need to press the button to get credit. That means you need a total of 96 levels because you did not "Complete a rank up" at level 1 unless you moved to level 2. So yes 15 average is only pressing and completing a rank up 84 times not 90.
Its perfectly fine, I am just amused by your anger, accusation of false advertisement, name calling, conspiracy theories. At this point I am surprised you haven't pulled the "Legal consequences" card. Keep raging 🤡