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More slack regarding restrictions when someone joins a new alliance

Guest7139

There should be a bit more slack regarding the restrictions when players join a new alliance.

Last banquet, anyone who joined an alliance needed to wait 2 weeks before their points contributed towards the alliance milestones even if they joined before the event started.
Any points spent were void and basically went down the drain.
A better thing to do would be to put those points on pause until the 2 weeks are up and then count towards the alliance milestones.

When it comes to common events, if you join after an alliance event starts, you usually can't contribute points towards alliance milestones until it ends.
That's fair to prevent players from hopping, but when it comes to alliance events that have a solo side, like Alliance Coliseum, it should still be playable, and the solo milestones should still be earnable if we're not in alliances.

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Guest7139

Last banquet I saw a few different people complain about how they spent quite a bit of the money on the game but didn't realize that their points weren't counting towards the alliance milestones until after they bought and opened stuff.

They couldn't get a refund because they opened stuff.

Guest7139

How stuff like this is handled, it seems like kabam either needs to put more focus on how to tweak events and whatnot so it doesn't cause unreasonable problems for the player base.

Or that things like this are deliberate as a way to get players to waste their money and resources.

Cap_Murica

There's a better way…….LEARN TO READ!!!!

NARWH4L

After several years of the same things, it is not necessarily the things that need to change, but the behavior of the people that just can't seem to learn.

Guest7139

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2962659#Comment_2962659

Doesn't really give a warning or say it any where.

You have to have someone tell you or learn it the hard way

Guest7139

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2962664#Comment_2962664

Doing something for years doesn't mean ur doing it right for years

NARWH4L

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2962668#Comment_2962668

It doesn't mean that those things are being done wrong today either.

NARWH4L

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2962667#Comment_2962667

Banquet comes with incredibly clear warnings, multiple times.

Guest7139

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2962670#Comment_2962670

I see people constantly complain about it.

When a lot of those problems wouldn't exist if simple changes were made then yeah it's a problem with the thing and the way it was designed and not the people.

Do you have a screen shot or something of the clear warnings because I've never seen one aside from a mod answering a questions or one out side of the game that was out of the way.

Werten

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2962673#Comment_2962673

Don't listen them. They literally looked at a post that basically just says "make things more player friendly" and went I cant have that. They are just bots wanting to keep problems around.

Ranick

Nice idea but the only problem is I dont trust kabam to make changes to something without making it even worse. Current systems have a alot of problems but its a coin flip wether it would get worse or better

MrSakuragi

I guess I don’t understand what’s so hard about looking at your timer on the event page and not opening any crystals until it hits zero. Or reading the in game email that explains it.

Buttehrs

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2962685#Comment_2962685

There isnt anything hard about it. Just people lacking patience or willing to read stuff and understanding it before moving forward.

Guest7139

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2962685#Comment_2962685

Its not hard once u know that it's like that but there's no reason to have it the way it is.

Please explain what the problem is with letting the points build up until the the timer is finished and then adding those points to total pool if the event is still running.

Or explain why it's a bad thing to let players without an alliance to earn the solo rewards?

Werten

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2962695#Comment_2962695

They're just miserable people who want to try and ruin something that would not in any way negatively affect them if it affected them at all. There is not a single reason to just let the points go to waste other than as a way to get players to waste their money. That's how kabam operates. They wont have any actual reasons its just asinine

Cap_Murica

Correction…..We are miserable people with READING skills!!

WickedJack32

I don't see any thing wrong with changing It. I havent really had many problems with current system though

Werten

"People with reading skills"

Apparently not

Guest7139

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2962703#Comment_2962703

Calm down.

Most of the people in this thread make reddit look good

Guest7139

How do I close or hide a discussion?

Aside from 1 or 2 comments it's just been insults being thrown since the first comment.

NARWH4L

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2962707#Comment_2962707

Disagreements are not insults. The only person that's undeniably thrown an insult is this Werten guy who isn't even contributing to the conversation at hand.

At the end of the day, there is nothing wrong with Kabam making changes. The way the game works now is different than when a lot of those things were put in place, so the systems aren't as necessary as they were. Banquet is setup to prevent people from double dipping by changing alliances, though I think they have made some changes that prevents that regardless. AQ has historically been that when a map starts it cannot be joined, though that shouldn't necessarily apply to coliseum since it isn't a map.

But no reason to not change doesn't mean there is reason for change either. The two week wait for banquet has been the standard since the beginning. It is nothing new and Kabam communicates warnings for that in a quantity that rivals their total communications for the year. They say it on the stream, they communicate on discord and the forums, and multiple in-game messages go out. I cannot help that you haven't paid attention to them. It is ultimately better for the game that such a safeguard still be in place than change it to solve things for a handful of players that ignore communication or don't prepare themselves ahead of time.

As far as AQ goes, I really don't see a reason why they can't make changes for coliseum, but it is probably also to prevent players from swapping in and out of alliances. Say no one in your alt's alliance can do the cheese with Sym, but you can with your main, so you hop over, stack up a ton of points for them, and then leave. Or maybe you realize your alliance sucks, so you go to another one. Should you really be allowed to benefit off the work that others had put in while you're late to the party?

At the end of the day, these concerns are ultimately non-issues for players that read the communications that come through and are committed to and involved in active alliances. The players that struggle with these timing issues are the outliers, and things don't need to change for the outliers if it results in a negative impact overall. These concerns are easy to work around because they have been clear standards for an incredibly long time. And these are things that, since they don't need to change, Kabam will almost certainly make worse by trying to fix it, because that's just what they're good at.

Guest7139

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2962740#Comment_2962740

Also the guy thats just been saying

Guest7139

And the werewolf and bucky guys

Guest7139

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2962740#Comment_2962740

I have not once suggested removing the restrictions in place to stop players from alliance hoppingand double dipping just to get better rewards from the alliance shared milestones. Those things are fine. Other than that there isn't any reason to stop players from switching alliances. I switched because the alliance I was in was mostly dead. I expected to not be able to contribute to the alliance milestones but there is no reason to stop players from earning the solo milestone rewards. It seems like common sense but kabam blocks players from earning the solo rewards and even just playing the mode.

I was in an active alliance and payed attention to the in game mail and I didn't learn that the points for banquet would just be wasted until I saw someone on discord talk about it. Even then I had to ask a few questions to clarify whether points earned while the timer is active will be applied once the timer ends, if it ends before the event finishes or if they become void. "Points will count towards the event once the timer ends" can interpreted as either and kabam isn't the best at being clear with the player base. Like when they said that "every previous rank up and lvl up will matter for collectives. Even the lower tiers that we dropped once we got the 7* version" and then it turns out that basically only the top tier matters.

The reason to change is that it's confusing when u change alliances and people are missing rewards that they earned or paid for.

Not a single person in here has stated a reason to keep it as is other than kabam will make it worse but the only 2 things that I've suggested would be really hard to mess up even for kabam.

Something being the same for a while is not a reason to stop changes.

You said "negative impact overall" can u give some examples?

Guest7139

It also seems that everyone forgets that this is a KIDS game made for KIDS.

Kids are not going to read everything or even understand everything if they did.

Meaning that kabam should think about trying to make this stuff simple and forgiving when possible.

I can't think of a single decent game that goes "yeah it's ok if our player let their earned or paid for items go to waste because reasonable assumptions were wrong" most of them would make changes.

Cap_Murica

This is not a kid's game! This game is intended for age 13+. At that age, if you do not have basic reading and comprehension skills, there's more important things to worry about!!

Guest7139

Now that I think about it idk why they even have a cool down for banquet.

They could've just made it like the rest of alliance stuff and made everyone be in the alliance before it started.

Buttehrs

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2962765#Comment_2962765

NNo, Its not a kids game. Its made for 13+. If theres teenagers playing the game that cant read, thats the parents fault. Not to mention they need permission to even play. You are making a mountain out of a molehill. Just read and pay attention.

Guest7139

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/2963053#Comment_2963053

Sure

Guest7139

There is still no reason why kabam can't just fix this stuff