SeanFlik wrote: » This is a bunch of whale milkin' shiz! 150 people get the champ? cut off probably gonna be like 30 million
vd016 wrote: » Phcs as milestone?? Comeon couldve atleast added gmc shards or 4* shards. And 135 units as milestone rewards for score of 12million is ridiculous
beyonder8421 wrote: » SeanFlik wrote: » This is a bunch of whale milkin' shiz! 150 people get the champ? cut off probably gonna be like 30 million You know, I feel the same about the 4 star featured arena, and people seem to be able to get the champ without spending money. It is hard to guess the cutoff for this, but it will probably change all the expected cutoffs for all the arenas with players dedicating more and more to this one. Could be either bad or good for the others.
CpcBoyboy wrote: » Vdh2008 wrote: » Pe3k wrote: » 30+ Million is Just absurd for me ...but Basic would be possible Lol... 30 is low... Think 50 mil or more... There are guys with 6-9 6 stars already. Refreshing those with triple the 5 star points? u wrong big spenders dont waste their time to grinding arena, they just spend on GMC , cut off are made by players, if u all say 30m then will be 30, if u said 50m then will be 50m, i think cutt will not really change for now because to do 20m need a lot of time grinding... i doubt cut will be so high and prevent to score , kabam should increase the Unit cost for everytime u refresh the same Champs per day, and have a limit to use, ,@Kabam Miike ur team always said to find a way to players to play LESS TIME IN ARENA and get good rewards..but it isnt the case, scores are insane now in my case i dont use 4* anymore on arena , waste my time, if i play them ..well i can breath or going to toilet, or no holidays , always need to stay at home , put my wife away and my kids too ..etc... top150 are for nolife, i ve got the roaster to compete but time to spend to "hope" to win... do something about Bots players..... thats why i ve quit arenas ..Zeabot still rules, or check nickname June0xx and July0xx (xx are numers) damn high bot farming still on !
Vdh2008 wrote: » Pe3k wrote: » 30+ Million is Just absurd for me ...but Basic would be possible Lol... 30 is low... Think 50 mil or more... There are guys with 6-9 6 stars already. Refreshing those with triple the 5 star points?
Pe3k wrote: » 30+ Million is Just absurd for me ...but Basic would be possible
SeanFlik wrote: » beyonder8421 wrote: » SeanFlik wrote: » This is a bunch of whale milkin' shiz! 150 people get the champ? cut off probably gonna be like 30 million You know, I feel the same about the 4 star featured arena, and people seem to be able to get the champ without spending money. It is hard to guess the cutoff for this, but it will probably change all the expected cutoffs for all the arenas with players dedicating more and more to this one. Could be either bad or good for the others. I think the problem with arena is that it simply requires too much darn time. Either you grind for three days straight or you are an elite that has enough high champs and units to get into the top 800 or now 150. I think there should be a cutoff of say, 4 mil for basic 4*, 10 mil for featured 4*, etc (just as an example) and that guarantees the champion, but you could go higher for say, an awakened version, a 4* crystal, etc.
Crys23 wrote: » Refresh times are way too high. Please consider setting the 6* refresh time at 7h and lower it for 5*'s at 4hours.
Kabam Miike wrote: » RagamugginGunner wrote: » Kabam Miike wrote: » Thatweirdguy wrote: » My gosh those milestone rewards are trash. Many players just grind the milestones with no hope/time to get the good rank rewards. Why do you guys put PHC's of all things as milestones in a 5* arena. There is no legitimate/logical reason to do that. how about putting some T1A's? You guys are really out of touch. These milestones are indefensible. If your goal is just to get the Milestones for Units, etc., then I suggest a different Arena. This Arena is meant of those that are ready to compete for the top rewards. This statement contradicts you comment about limiting this to uncollected players for GM shards. So is it for everyone or just those at the top? It is for everyone that wants to compete. You don't have to be Uncollected to be Competitive.
RagamugginGunner wrote: » Kabam Miike wrote: » Thatweirdguy wrote: » My gosh those milestone rewards are trash. Many players just grind the milestones with no hope/time to get the good rank rewards. Why do you guys put PHC's of all things as milestones in a 5* arena. There is no legitimate/logical reason to do that. how about putting some T1A's? You guys are really out of touch. These milestones are indefensible. If your goal is just to get the Milestones for Units, etc., then I suggest a different Arena. This Arena is meant of those that are ready to compete for the top rewards. This statement contradicts you comment about limiting this to uncollected players for GM shards. So is it for everyone or just those at the top?
Kabam Miike wrote: » Thatweirdguy wrote: » My gosh those milestone rewards are trash. Many players just grind the milestones with no hope/time to get the good rank rewards. Why do you guys put PHC's of all things as milestones in a 5* arena. There is no legitimate/logical reason to do that. how about putting some T1A's? You guys are really out of touch. These milestones are indefensible. If your goal is just to get the Milestones for Units, etc., then I suggest a different Arena. This Arena is meant of those that are ready to compete for the top rewards.
Thatweirdguy wrote: » My gosh those milestone rewards are trash. Many players just grind the milestones with no hope/time to get the good rank rewards. Why do you guys put PHC's of all things as milestones in a 5* arena. There is no legitimate/logical reason to do that. how about putting some T1A's? You guys are really out of touch. These milestones are indefensible.
beyonder8421 wrote: » Crys23 wrote: » Refresh times are way too high. Please consider setting the 6* refresh time at 7h and lower it for 5*'s at 4hours. This would make the cutoff go higher.
Ace_03 wrote: » DNA3000 wrote: » Ace_03 wrote: » Kabam Miike wrote: » BitterSteel wrote: » Kabam Miike wrote: » Thatweirdguy wrote: » @Kabam Miike Is there anyway you could talk to the game team about giving us a peak behind the curtain as to how they come up with these types of rewards? I think it would go a long way for the community in understanding the thought process. As it is they are just so out of whack with what your customer base needs that I believe it will anger people. Why PHS? Why no T1A? Why such trash? Rank up materials are not the usual rewards for Hero Arenas, so Tier 1 Alphas are out of place here. And as we have already mentioned, this Arena is not one where the focus is the Milestones. This is where you will the most competitive will compete for a chance at the Top Prize a regular Arena has every given. A Featured 5-Star Champion. What about the rank up gems then? There are rank up gems in other arenas. Why not offer 5* rank up gem crystals that offer a random class rank up gem that takes a 5* from rank 1 to 2? The Rank Up Gem is available to the Top Player in the other Arenas. I don't think we can really use that as an argument as to why Rank Up Materials should be included in this new Arena. Doesn't making it the top 150 defeat the purpose of the arena do? Because if you have to use a ton of units to refresh 5* or 6* then what it's the purpose? Arena should be the non-spender option to get that champ with a big enough roster, but I feel the big spenders will just monopolize the top prizes. That has never been true. Even now, the featured 4* offers a big advantage to the spenders, and is also limited to 800 so among spenders and non-spenders alike very few will actually win the champ regardless. In any well designed F2P game, what spending money generally buys you is speed. Patience is rewarded with easier ways to get the same thing the impatient spend money to get. The 4* featured arena requires very large expense in time, resources, and/or roster size, and even so few get the champ. The 4* basic requires far less expense in time and resources, and way more players get the champ. You just have to wait for the champion to appear there. It is almost certainly the case that Kabam wants to have just the featured 5* arena out first, to reward the big spenders in time and money to have the first shot at these champions. Down the road, maybe six months, maybe a year, a basic arena will likely come out where everyone else will have a somewhat better shot at the same thing. The reward for the spenders is to get there first. The reward for the patient is to get there cheaper. Don't quote me.
DNA3000 wrote: » Ace_03 wrote: » Kabam Miike wrote: » BitterSteel wrote: » Kabam Miike wrote: » Thatweirdguy wrote: » @Kabam Miike Is there anyway you could talk to the game team about giving us a peak behind the curtain as to how they come up with these types of rewards? I think it would go a long way for the community in understanding the thought process. As it is they are just so out of whack with what your customer base needs that I believe it will anger people. Why PHS? Why no T1A? Why such trash? Rank up materials are not the usual rewards for Hero Arenas, so Tier 1 Alphas are out of place here. And as we have already mentioned, this Arena is not one where the focus is the Milestones. This is where you will the most competitive will compete for a chance at the Top Prize a regular Arena has every given. A Featured 5-Star Champion. What about the rank up gems then? There are rank up gems in other arenas. Why not offer 5* rank up gem crystals that offer a random class rank up gem that takes a 5* from rank 1 to 2? The Rank Up Gem is available to the Top Player in the other Arenas. I don't think we can really use that as an argument as to why Rank Up Materials should be included in this new Arena. Doesn't making it the top 150 defeat the purpose of the arena do? Because if you have to use a ton of units to refresh 5* or 6* then what it's the purpose? Arena should be the non-spender option to get that champ with a big enough roster, but I feel the big spenders will just monopolize the top prizes. That has never been true. Even now, the featured 4* offers a big advantage to the spenders, and is also limited to 800 so among spenders and non-spenders alike very few will actually win the champ regardless. In any well designed F2P game, what spending money generally buys you is speed. Patience is rewarded with easier ways to get the same thing the impatient spend money to get. The 4* featured arena requires very large expense in time, resources, and/or roster size, and even so few get the champ. The 4* basic requires far less expense in time and resources, and way more players get the champ. You just have to wait for the champion to appear there. It is almost certainly the case that Kabam wants to have just the featured 5* arena out first, to reward the big spenders in time and money to have the first shot at these champions. Down the road, maybe six months, maybe a year, a basic arena will likely come out where everyone else will have a somewhat better shot at the same thing. The reward for the spenders is to get there first. The reward for the patient is to get there cheaper.
Ace_03 wrote: » Kabam Miike wrote: » BitterSteel wrote: » Kabam Miike wrote: » Thatweirdguy wrote: » @Kabam Miike Is there anyway you could talk to the game team about giving us a peak behind the curtain as to how they come up with these types of rewards? I think it would go a long way for the community in understanding the thought process. As it is they are just so out of whack with what your customer base needs that I believe it will anger people. Why PHS? Why no T1A? Why such trash? Rank up materials are not the usual rewards for Hero Arenas, so Tier 1 Alphas are out of place here. And as we have already mentioned, this Arena is not one where the focus is the Milestones. This is where you will the most competitive will compete for a chance at the Top Prize a regular Arena has every given. A Featured 5-Star Champion. What about the rank up gems then? There are rank up gems in other arenas. Why not offer 5* rank up gem crystals that offer a random class rank up gem that takes a 5* from rank 1 to 2? The Rank Up Gem is available to the Top Player in the other Arenas. I don't think we can really use that as an argument as to why Rank Up Materials should be included in this new Arena. Doesn't making it the top 150 defeat the purpose of the arena do? Because if you have to use a ton of units to refresh 5* or 6* then what it's the purpose? Arena should be the non-spender option to get that champ with a big enough roster, but I feel the big spenders will just monopolize the top prizes.
Kabam Miike wrote: » BitterSteel wrote: » Kabam Miike wrote: » Thatweirdguy wrote: » @Kabam Miike Is there anyway you could talk to the game team about giving us a peak behind the curtain as to how they come up with these types of rewards? I think it would go a long way for the community in understanding the thought process. As it is they are just so out of whack with what your customer base needs that I believe it will anger people. Why PHS? Why no T1A? Why such trash? Rank up materials are not the usual rewards for Hero Arenas, so Tier 1 Alphas are out of place here. And as we have already mentioned, this Arena is not one where the focus is the Milestones. This is where you will the most competitive will compete for a chance at the Top Prize a regular Arena has every given. A Featured 5-Star Champion. What about the rank up gems then? There are rank up gems in other arenas. Why not offer 5* rank up gem crystals that offer a random class rank up gem that takes a 5* from rank 1 to 2? The Rank Up Gem is available to the Top Player in the other Arenas. I don't think we can really use that as an argument as to why Rank Up Materials should be included in this new Arena.
BitterSteel wrote: » Kabam Miike wrote: » Thatweirdguy wrote: » @Kabam Miike Is there anyway you could talk to the game team about giving us a peak behind the curtain as to how they come up with these types of rewards? I think it would go a long way for the community in understanding the thought process. As it is they are just so out of whack with what your customer base needs that I believe it will anger people. Why PHS? Why no T1A? Why such trash? Rank up materials are not the usual rewards for Hero Arenas, so Tier 1 Alphas are out of place here. And as we have already mentioned, this Arena is not one where the focus is the Milestones. This is where you will the most competitive will compete for a chance at the Top Prize a regular Arena has every given. A Featured 5-Star Champion. What about the rank up gems then? There are rank up gems in other arenas. Why not offer 5* rank up gem crystals that offer a random class rank up gem that takes a 5* from rank 1 to 2?
Kabam Miike wrote: » Thatweirdguy wrote: » @Kabam Miike Is there anyway you could talk to the game team about giving us a peak behind the curtain as to how they come up with these types of rewards? I think it would go a long way for the community in understanding the thought process. As it is they are just so out of whack with what your customer base needs that I believe it will anger people. Why PHS? Why no T1A? Why such trash? Rank up materials are not the usual rewards for Hero Arenas, so Tier 1 Alphas are out of place here. And as we have already mentioned, this Arena is not one where the focus is the Milestones. This is where you will the most competitive will compete for a chance at the Top Prize a regular Arena has every given. A Featured 5-Star Champion.
Thatweirdguy wrote: » @Kabam Miike Is there anyway you could talk to the game team about giving us a peak behind the curtain as to how they come up with these types of rewards? I think it would go a long way for the community in understanding the thought process. As it is they are just so out of whack with what your customer base needs that I believe it will anger people. Why PHS? Why no T1A? Why such trash?
Notsileous wrote: » Kabam Miike wrote: » RagamugginGunner wrote: » Kabam Miike wrote: » Thatweirdguy wrote: » My gosh those milestone rewards are trash. Many players just grind the milestones with no hope/time to get the good rank rewards. Why do you guys put PHC's of all things as milestones in a 5* arena. There is no legitimate/logical reason to do that. how about putting some T1A's? You guys are really out of touch. These milestones are indefensible. If your goal is just to get the Milestones for Units, etc., then I suggest a different Arena. This Arena is meant of those that are ready to compete for the top rewards. This statement contradicts you comment about limiting this to uncollected players for GM shards. So is it for everyone or just those at the top? It is for everyone that wants to compete. You don't have to be Uncollected to be Competitive. Considering being Uncollected gets another way to aquire to 5* heroes (normally restricted to crystals), as well as access to the uncollected difficulty of the monthly contest which is the only consistent way to get t5 basic and really the only good way of 6* shards. How can you say with a straight face that you dont have to be uncollected to be competitive?
Sith_Lord wrote: » Arena milestones should be more intriguing. You can basically get the same exact rewards from the basic arena, while only putting up 1.5m. That's 2 runs for me with my 60 R5 4 stars - 40 matches! Only difference is 1 PHC per milestone. Not like those have any good drops in them anyway. The rank rewards should also be expanded. Top 150 in order to win the featured champ is a little bit ridiculous! Should at least be top 400, at he lowest. This arena will only be for the top players in the game, with top rosters. As @CpcBoyboy stated above, which he is 100% right about, is us top players rather spend on crystals in securing a 5* featured champ. We need something as I stated above in order to entice us in competing in this new 5* arena. All those hours of grinding are truly not worth our while...
