Are those recent changes to enemy AI intentional?

I've been playing this game for years. Recently i noticed a few rather radical changes to the behaviour of enemy AI which quite frankly has increased the difficulty of the game quite a lot and i haven't stumbled upon any information in the patch notes regarding these changes.

So, for a long time we've had the enemy able to charge a heavy from almost the opposite of the screen and able to "home in" on you and connect. This isnt something new, its been going on for a long time, and it isnt that huge a deal, although its damn annoying and counter intuitive in my opinion.

But the new thing i've noticed, especially if you fight with a small character like wolverine, enemies are now able to "home in" on you during one of their combo attacks even if you evade / swipe back during the first, second or even third attack. The enemy just continues the combo from miles off.

Now that is actually a pretty big change and it is extremely frustrating especially in AQ where you used to be able to play smart to avoid damage, now you have homing combos... Try dashing back with wolvie or anyone small against say Voodoo as miniboss in AQ and you'll see what i mean. It also means that huge characters are actually all of a sudden extremely easy to use to avoid damage compared to small. I mean, try Hulk and see how easy he evades with swiping back compared to small heroes.

Are those changes to the enemy AI intentional and going to stay? I hope for some constructive feedback.

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Thecurler

Theturdcurler wrote: »

Can a mod please answer this very simple question.

Should the AI be able to launch a special immediately after missing a heavy attack?

Evading an AI heavy then counter attacking as the AI animation finishes is/was a fundamental tactic used by players.

Any chance of a reply?

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Thecurler

Theturdcurler wrote: »

Theturdcurler wrote: »

Can a mod please answer this very simple question.

Should the AI be able to launch a special immediately after missing a heavy attack?

Evading an AI heavy then counter attacking as the AI animation finishes is/was a fundamental tactic used by players.

Any chance of a reply?

Plenty of mod activity in the last couple of days but no response to a perfectly legitimate question that could be answered with a one word yes or no.

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I wouldn’t give you (removed by moderation) the peanuts out my (removed by moderation).

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Iksdjvan

Of course you haven't made any changes to the ai... the a.i. determines when is the most tactical time to take a certain action (i.e. light attack, dash back, activate special 2 etc...) a.i. does not however govern the effective range of of a special attack, the correct timing for a parry the correct timing for a dash back to avoid or evade an attack etc... those are what have been changed... so @Kabam Zibiit is correct that the a.i. has not been changed but other parameters have been and it's obvious to anyone who plays this game often... some aren't quite obvious, such as the timing for parry (most in game champions do not have the parry mastery in story, event or alliance quests) so in those fights the only person to notice the difference is the player and it would be next to impossible to prove the change in timing, but most are obvious, like how much faster the a.i. can recover after a heavy attack or how you can be 2 full dash backs away from the computer champion and they jump that entire distance across the screen to hit you with the first hit of their special attack which never used to happen (you had to be within range to land a special attack)... so long story short kabam is not lying to us about there being any changes to the a.i., we just aren't asking the right questions... at least that is my opinion...

Synchrotone

I wrote specifically about what issues i have been noticing and asked quite specifically about what i wanted information about. A generalized answer was all that was given. Doubt any developer would be confused, and expect to be asked about further information if needed.

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Iksdjvan

Once again that is not the a.i. it is the effective range of attacks, the start and finish point of the window in which the champion is committed to a specific action in the game (game mechanics)... like i said earlier the a.i. only determines the timing of a strategic action NOT the fundamental rules or guidelines of the actions being taken by the a.i.... as far as the more aggressive a.i. it has been this aggressive since the start of i believe around November of last year... the changes you are noticing are based on the changed parameters of actions available in the fight... the problem is with the game mechanics and the more we complain about "changed a.i." the less acknowledgment of the problem we will recieve...

PhonieStark

When the AI does a five hit combo, it's nearly impossible to slide away between hits. It used to be quite easy. Not only that, if an AI champ is fairly close to you, you become frozen for a second when they attack you. I feel like masteries that are supposed to help us are being used against us.

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NoNamesLeftJr

This thread is talking about one of the #1 issues I have with the game, and the reason I'm quitting.

Darkstar4387

PhonieStark wrote: »

When the AI does a five hit combo, it's nearly impossible to slide away between hits. It used to be quite easy. Not only that, if an AI champ is fairly close to you, you become frozen for a second when they attack you. I feel like masteries that are supposed to help us are being used against us.

Exactly and I'm getting tired of it. Usually we used to get away from them or be able to block them and now neither works sometimes no matter how many times you swipe the screen or tap block they just sit there and get their faces smashed in.

Even if you do manage to get away they still may hit you outside of thier strike zone, or your dash back is to short, or they'll suddenly speed up and fly across the map pressing you, or your champions just dash forward for no reason or through a attack or heavy at your opponent, we get stuck in block or they drop for no reason which in all cases the ai takes advantage of.

Their parry timing can be impeccable and just parry us mutiple times in a row while ours barely works sometimes, they can do so from crazy positions or when they aren't even blocking at all.

They can block our specials or recover from them quickly or don't have a recovery time at all, they can block us in the middle of a multiple hit special and launch one at us, interrupt our heavies and attacks, and literally dodge everything like a psychic spiderman on crack and all of this can happen multiple times a fight.

It's really frustrating, not to mention sometimes there's these random lag spikes that give the ai more of an opportunity to get free hits on us and we've given them plenty of information about of this including videos and screenshots yet they still happen and there's been no updates on possible fixes and sometimes we get accused of ranting and being imature even when were doing neither which makes this even more frustrating.

If they address it and fix them their standing with us will improve even if they have to take it down for hours or longer which other companies have done so for mobile, console and PC games they'll make more money in the long run, won't face as much critiscm or backlash like they are now but we'll see what happens though they probably won't do so, it's just some food for your thoughts.

Synchrotone

No replies since last message from Kabam. We're actually trying to get some information here... and we're also trying to provide information about what we're having problems with. If you need more information, Kabam, just communicate and let us know so we can provide whatever is needed to get this game back in shape.

Plumber4578

"The game is working as intended".

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Synchrotone

Zibiit, i wrote to you about what enemies i've experienced this against but you havent returned or commented yet. Could we get something going so we can get to the bottom of this and get the fight mechanics back to normal?

Nopiii111

the evade is totally broken!
my device is samsung s7 edge 7.0

mydnight

Cable's S1 is the clearest example of the AI changed. Why don't you refute this, mods?