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More AW manipulation.

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  • nopenope Posts: 134
    A lot of that is people trying to divert attention. Some is people that were cheating and now aren't. Some is just people that have no clue what really goes on because it's pretty unbelievable until you see it happening w your own 2 eyes. Most people don't start playing a game and then immediately start wasting their time going to outrageous lengths to manipulate it for rewards... Because most people have better things to do.
  • RiegelRiegel Posts: 1,088 ★★★★
    Ultra8529 wrote: »
    Riegel wrote: »
    Shrimkins wrote: »
    There was a guy who posted a thread about this exact concern after the latest changes to war scoring.

    He said AW could be subjected to manipulation from bribery because of the defenders remaining score.

    Turns out he was exactly right.

    Yeah, that was probably me as well. I keep bringing these huge issues up, but they don't get resolved till after the fact. That's ok I understand they have a lot more on their plate at Kabam than handling a bunch of cheaters. I just hope that at some point these issues get resolved. Same with the match making system problems I brought up pre season 1. Those got fixed, and I'm glad they did. Now we need a fix to the 2* collusion issue, and to crack down on these new ways of piloting that people are doing to fly under the radar.

    Not really. You were the sarcastic guy who said that bribery wont ever happen in AW seasons.

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/comment/299388#Comment_299388

    Funny how some other people in this thread were the same people who said such cheating won't ever happen in the other thread.

    You know how sarcasm works I hope? I said, "When I looked at the AW season rewards I decided I'd rather be gifted some gold crystals and boosts than winning some t2a and t5b. Bribe me."

    What I meant there is it'd be dumb to risk Season rewards for some gifted items. I can see how you might misinterpret what I said, but "bribery wont ever happen in AW seasons." is absolutely not what I said, and I have been making posts about cheating in AW from the beginning.
  • Ultra8529Ultra8529 Posts: 526 ★★★
    Riegel wrote: »

    What I meant there is it'd be dumb to risk Season rewards for some gifted items. I can see how you might misinterpret what I said, but "bribery wont ever happen in AW seasons." is absolutely not what I said, and I have been making posts about cheating in AW from the beginning.

    That exactly implies that nobody would take some gifts (bribes) over T2A/T5B (season rewards). Yet we may well be seeing that exact situation occurring.
  • RiegelRiegel Posts: 1,088 ★★★★
    Ultra8529 wrote: »
    Riegel wrote: »

    What I meant there is it'd be dumb to risk Season rewards for some gifted items. I can see how you might misinterpret what I said, but "bribery wont ever happen in AW seasons." is absolutely not what I said, and I have been making posts about cheating in AW from the beginning.

    That exactly implies that nobody would take some gifts (bribes) over T2A/T5B (season rewards). Yet we may well be seeing that exact situation occurring.

    Of course it happens and it is happening. It is a dumb risk, and yes people are making that dumb risk. That post was made on the day season 1 started.

    I was obviously proven wrong in many ways.
    1: by people actually doing it
    2: by saying people would do it for in game trades. Obviously its an RMT issue.
  • ShrimkinsShrimkins Posts: 1,479 ★★★★
    Ultra8529 wrote: »
    Riegel wrote: »

    What I meant there is it'd be dumb to risk Season rewards for some gifted items. I can see how you might misinterpret what I said, but "bribery wont ever happen in AW seasons." is absolutely not what I said, and I have been making posts about cheating in AW from the beginning.

    That exactly implies that nobody would take some gifts (bribes) over T2A/T5B (season rewards). Yet we may well be seeing that exact situation occurring.

    Yeah I agree it's stupid as well but I'll admit I was wrong. Didn't think anyone would be that stupid. Could be seeing some even more nefarious means of quid pro quo going on than just in game gifting.
  • Ultra8529Ultra8529 Posts: 526 ★★★
    Didn't mean to be calling you guys out and I really appreciate you guys being big enough to accept past misjudgments. I did this not just for the sake of it but to highlight the point to Kabam. They need to really start scrutinising every single new feature they release in this game because if it can be abused, history taught us that it WILL. No matter how unlikely that might appear initially. The test is physical/mathematical possibility and not probability.
  • Blitzkilla420Blitzkilla420 Posts: 561 ★★★
    Cheaters need to be banned! Simple as that! Why give them another chance to do the same **** over and over again and ruin the integrity of aw seasons?

    I think season rewards should be dumped completely and just revamp aq and all other rewards to deter these stupid cheaters
  • Jackie2CokesJackie2Cokes Posts: 194 ★
    Funny how all of this is coming to light in the last 2 weeks of AW season when top tier guys are scared they won't get top rewards that they've spent money on.

    All of these top alliances have been manipulating matchmaking thru season 1 and 2 to gain an advantage, which is fine, not against TOS from what we've heard.

    They're only mad now because another few alliances further found a way to maximize points and leapfrog them in the standings.

    I'm not even close to a top tier alliance but from what I've read (admittedly not all of it because there's info for days) there doesn't seem to be much difference as it's all been about bending the rules, right??
  • RiegelRiegel Posts: 1,088 ★★★★
    Jackie2Cokes wrote: »
    Funny how all of this is coming to light in the last 2 weeks of AW season when top tier guys are scared they won't get top rewards that they've spent money on.

    All of these top alliances have been manipulating matchmaking thru season 1 and 2 to gain an advantage, which is fine, not against TOS from what we've heard.

    They're only mad now because another few alliances further found a way to maximize points and leapfrog them in the standings.

    I'm not even close to a top tier alliance but from what I've read (admittedly not all of it because there's info for days) there doesn't seem to be much difference as it's all been about bending the rules, right??

    An alliance last week did something very similar. They got a deduction in points.

    We are only now mad about this because there is only now proof.

    We need to have discussions about this a proof that is s happening in order for there to be punishments dealt to those who cheated and to also keep this from happening again in the future so we can have a more fair war season.
  • nopenope Posts: 134
    Riegel wrote: »
    Jackie2Cokes wrote: »
    Funny how all of this is coming to light in the last 2 weeks of AW season when top tier guys are scared they won't get top rewards that they've spent money on.

    All of these top alliances have been manipulating matchmaking thru season 1 and 2 to gain an advantage, which is fine, not against TOS from what we've heard.

    They're only mad now because another few alliances further found a way to maximize points and leapfrog them in the standings.

    I'm not even close to a top tier alliance but from what I've read (admittedly not all of it because there's info for days) there doesn't seem to be much difference as it's all been about bending the rules, right??

    An alliance last week did something very similar. They got a deduction in points.

    We are only now mad about this because there is only now proof.

    We need to have discussions about this a proof that is s happening in order for there to be punishments dealt to those who cheated and to also keep this from happening again in the future so we can have a more fair war season.

    Yeah this situation is something that has been whispered about and admitted and laughed about... But now there are screenshots. Makes it a different story altogether and provides the opportunity needed to make some changes happen. And there's still time to do so.
  • ContestOfNoobsContestOfNoobs Posts: 1,391 ★★★★
    edited June 2018
    SO many allainces that was in masters season 1 have fallen off cause they cant pilot/cheat anymore

    there are legit alliances that are playing for these rewards...

    Cheaters never win and they shouldn't be allowed to have rewards...

    "Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it."


    please dont repeat what happened in season 1...please
  • Blitzkilla420Blitzkilla420 Posts: 561 ★★★
    ContestOfNoobs wrote: »
    SO many allainces that was in masters season 1 have fallen off cause they cant pilot/cheat anymore

    there are legit alliances that are playing for these rewards...

    Cheaters never win and they shouldn't be allowed to have rewards...

    "Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it."


    please dont repeat what happened in season 1...please

    wait till season 3. cant wait for what new cheating methods the top allys will pull off /s.
  • InfinityWarrior123InfinityWarrior123 Posts: 35
    we are one week away from end of the season. Is kabam doing anything? The punishment given so far is way too light
  • ContestOfNoobsContestOfNoobs Posts: 1,391 ★★★★
    InfinityWarrior123 wrote: »
    we are one week away from end of the season. Is kabam doing anything? The punishment given so far is way too light

    we can only hope and see,
  • InfinityWarrior123InfinityWarrior123 Posts: 35
    And i hope kabam dont immediately give out aw rewards after season end. They should review all wars including the very last one.

    Knowing how smart and creative people can be, high chance some people will cheat on the last war thinking kabam will immediately give out aw rewards after the last aw and they wont get caught
  • Vale84Vale84 Posts: 308 ★★★
    Considering week end and war break i'd say we ll see what happens later today or early tomorrow. That said would of they want to NOT proceed (which i doubt as it d be literally favouritism towards a diff ally then the ones punished) or do so given the bomb exploded everywhere they should at least spend few words on here like in the previous situation.

    -Are 2* pre agreed wars exploits? Or are we free to do them till season ends and save boosts potions and money?

    - if they are, what s the penalty and kabams view over it?

    Last time miike did a good post pointing towards the right approach ( penalization for the free walk master war), i d like to see this kind of care and effort more often.
  • JaffacakedJaffacaked Posts: 1,415 ★★★★
    Same will probably happen like it did last end of season. kabam will stay silent an issue rewards then address the issue before beginning of season 3. It's disgusting that cheats will get to keep season rewards.
  • Vale84Vale84 Posts: 308 ★★★
    Jaffacaked wrote: »
    Same will probably happen like it did last end of season. kabam will stay silent an issue rewards then address the issue before beginning of season 3. It's disgusting that cheats will get to keep season rewards.

    I dont think so. Kabam has proven to be moving in the right direction since season 2 started. The fact some ppl do not agree with the type of penalties and their weight is rrlative and can be balanced for season 3.

    Changing the type or amount of deductions midseason would be fair or unfair tho other allies who cheated and got less or more deductions. On this, i do stand for kabam for keeping the same meter of judgment throughout the whole season.

    Unlike season 1, kabam has already took measures and it s assured that before handing out rewards the same will be done again.

    The only matter is to ask and expecially for kabam to KEEP enforcing punishments no matter who the ally is and where it stands in the ladder.
    So no, they arent avoiding the problem but YEAH, they need to act on the latest matter in the same way they did last week to preserve and enforce the line of conduct towards cheaters.
  • peasantpeasant Posts: 240 ★
    edited June 2018
    ApexRV wrote: »
    My alliance is constantly starting AW and not joining or not moving a lot because we are too lazy. If Kabam starts removing points several alliances will be punished even if its not their fault :neutral:

    Sorry to those alliances


    laziness? you mean voluntarily joining AW and losing on purpose?

    I guess those losing participation rewards make it worth it
  • VimesVonlipVimesVonlip Posts: 177 ★★
    Ban the alliances that cheat, ban the players and then move up the alliances that don't cheat.
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