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Gwenpool and Crossbones question

TheSquish671TheSquish671 Posts: 2,819 ★★★★★
When awakened, Gwenpool reduces the opponents ability accuracy based on her combo, so how many hits do i need to get for 100% ability accuracy reduction? And how many furies does Crossbones need for 100% ability accuracy reduction?(if it is possible)

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  • Haji_SaabHaji_Saab Posts: 3,099 ★★★★★
    Gwenpool 50 hits .. Crossbones needs infinite hits for 100%, so never. He can get pretty high AAR though.
  • TheSquish671TheSquish671 Posts: 2,819 ★★★★★
    So gwenpool reduces ability accuracy by 2% per hit i see. Thanks
  • TheSquish671TheSquish671 Posts: 2,819 ★★★★★
    Still confused about crossbones. One active fury reduces ability accuracy by how much?
  • AnkalagonnAnkalagonn Posts: 479 ★★
    Haji_Saab wrote: »
    Gwenpool 50 hits .. Crossbones needs infinite hits for 100%, so never. He can get pretty high AAR though.

    Interesting. I thought her ability was not to die from a SP attack. 50 hits are quite easy to get
  • TheSquish671TheSquish671 Posts: 2,819 ★★★★★
    How do i do that quote thing? @Ankalagonn
  • justin311justin311 Posts: 99
    @TheSquish671 I have both. Gwenpool's decrease ability is better for longer fights because usually by the time you get to 50 hits, most are dead. Crossbones decreases abilities by 22% per fury. Overrun grants you 3 furies so immediately you get to 66%. Sp1 also gives a fury. So, if you start Overrun early, by the time you use sp1, you'll usually have about 5-8 furies. At 5 furies, defensive abilities are completely shut off.
  • Hammerbro_64Hammerbro_64 Posts: 3,657 ★★★★★
    Just remember: 3 is good but unreliable, 4 is pretty reliable, and 5 is almost perfect AAR
  • The_OneThe_One Posts: 2,710 ★★★★
    Ankalagonn wrote: »
    Haji_Saab wrote: »
    Gwenpool 50 hits .. Crossbones needs infinite hits for 100%, so never. He can get pretty high AAR though.

    Interesting. I thought her ability was not to die from a SP attack. 50 hits are quite easy to get

    It's both.
    Special attacks deal a % of her current health based in Sig lvl, as it's her current health she can't die from sp.
    Although I have killed a Gwenpool in war with Ultrons s2 which I can only assume was due to assassin mastery
  • TheSquish671TheSquish671 Posts: 2,819 ★★★★★
    So if i use Duped GP against masacre and block his sp2,(resulting in the insane block damage)will those blocked hits count as regular hits to GP and lower the damage?
  • Chris_L_HChris_L_H Posts: 162
    Haji_Saab wrote: »
    Gwenpool 50 hits .. Crossbones needs infinite hits for 100%, so never. He can get pretty high AAR though.

    Where does this 50 hits # come from? Nowhere in her description does it give a percentage for the AAR. For Crossbones, hits do not give him AAR, furies do. He does get over 100% AAR with 5 furies though, so I guess saying that he never gets 100% is kind of accurate.
  • Chris_L_HChris_L_H Posts: 162
    Just remember: 3 is good but unreliable, 4 is pretty reliable, and 5 is almost perfect AAR
    Just remember: 3 is good but unreliable, 4 is pretty reliable, and 5 is almost perfect AAR

    At 22% per fury, 5 would be 110% chance to AAR. I'd hate to see what is perfect if that's just almost perfect.
  • TheSquish671TheSquish671 Posts: 2,819 ★★★★★
    CB getting 15 furies= 330% AAR= opponent loses the ability accuracy of being alive and gets KOed instantly hahaha
  • TheSquish671TheSquish671 Posts: 2,819 ★★★★★
    Crossbones will need 46 furies to have enough AAR to shut down goldpool's regen(999% chance to trigger)....just sayin
  • MikeHockMikeHock Posts: 1,436 ★★★★
    The_One wrote: »
    Ankalagonn wrote: »
    Haji_Saab wrote: »
    Gwenpool 50 hits .. Crossbones needs infinite hits for 100%, so never. He can get pretty high AAR though.

    Interesting. I thought her ability was not to die from a SP attack. 50 hits are quite easy to get

    It's both.
    Special attacks deal a % of her current health based in Sig lvl, as it's her current health she can't die from sp.
    Although I have killed a Gwenpool in war with Ultrons s2 which I can only assume was due to assassin mastery

    Maybe you inflicted bleed with one of your hits?
  • TheSquish671TheSquish671 Posts: 2,819 ★★★★★
    edited July 2018
    That would just result in cauterize and increase the damage which would be reduced by her sig
  • Solrac_2Solrac_2 Posts: 426 ★★
    Haji_Saab wrote: »
    Gwenpool 50 hits .. Crossbones needs infinite hits for 100%, so never. He can get pretty high AAR though. [/qu

    Some misinformation in this thread about xbones. Haji above is 100% correct, xbones cannot reach 100%. It isn't additive as many here are assuming (22% + 22% + 22%) but rather multiplicative.
  • The_OneThe_One Posts: 2,710 ★★★★
    MikeHock wrote: »
    The_One wrote: »
    Ankalagonn wrote: »
    Haji_Saab wrote: »
    Gwenpool 50 hits .. Crossbones needs infinite hits for 100%, so never. He can get pretty high AAR though.

    Interesting. I thought her ability was not to die from a SP attack. 50 hits are quite easy to get

    It's both.
    Special attacks deal a % of her current health based in Sig lvl, as it's her current health she can't die from sp.
    Although I have killed a Gwenpool in war with Ultrons s2 which I can only assume was due to assassin mastery

    Maybe you inflicted bleed with one of your hits?

    I thought that but Ultrons s2 doesn't cause bleed, it stops it by cauterise.
  • I don'f think Crossbones ability gives him a flat 22% aar per fury, as it was stated somewhere in the past.
  • Haji_SaabHaji_Saab Posts: 3,099 ★★★★★
    Just to reiterate for information purposes:

    Gwenpool gets 2% additive AAR. It isn't mentioned in the abilities but was confirmed by Kabam Miike and can be tested. I personally took her against LOL Electro and she takes zero damage against him after 50 hits.

    Crossbones AAR is multiplicative and not additive. So, his AAR works like 100% x 78% x 78% x 78% and so on. This function only reaches zero after infinite multiplications i.e. in reality it will never reach 100%. After 5 furies and 22% on each fury, he has a 71% chance instead of the popularly believed 110%.
  • IronFist34IronFist34 Posts: 374 ★★
    I don'f think Crossbones ability gives him a flat 22% aar per fury, as it was stated somewhere in the past.

    Reading is hardt349e90luk3v.png
  • IronFist34 wrote: »
    I don'f think Crossbones ability gives him a flat 22% aar per fury, as it was stated somewhere in the past.

    Reading is hardt349e90luk3v.png

    Ok. 23% then, my bad.
    Still, it doesn't specify that it is a flat 23%
  • ChampioncriticChampioncritic Posts: 2,294 ★★★★
    My interpretation for crossbones is that it reduces ability accuracy by 23% per fury buff. so for 5 fury buffs, it would be 5*23% = 115%. aka ability shutdown
  • Hammerbro_64Hammerbro_64 Posts: 3,657 ★★★★★
    edited July 2018
    100-22=78.

    1 fury 100•.78= 78%

    2 fury 78• .78= 60.84

    3 fury 60.84•.78= 47.4552

    4 fury 47.4552• .78= About 37%

    5 fury 37 • .78= About 29% AA.

    To evasion champs who have about a 24% chance to evade, 5 furies drops their accuracy to 6.8%

    I’m pretty sure it’s multiplicative but I’ve never been evaded against when I have 5 CB furies so it might be additive. 110% AAR makes more sense than 71% AAR....

    Edit:
    Oof just saw the guy who told us it was 23%...oh well. It’s close enough. I think **** RNG makes up for that 1%
  • TheSquish671TheSquish671 Posts: 2,819 ★★★★★
    I don't remember his description stating that
  • EnderDraco58EnderDraco58 Posts: 958 ★★
    Used Crossbones hard back when I was still using 3*'s, and I loved him. Now, I do have Gwenpool 3*, but I've moved on to 4 and 5 star champs now, so I only really use her in quickmatch just for fun. Personally, I prefer crossbones (biased), but looking back, I feel Gwenpool was better. Her somewhat consistent bleed rate, good special damage, and, uh, stuff. sp3 is kinda lackluster, though in terms of cinematics. Doesn't really matter if you want to climb up the leaderboards, but for a casual like me a few months ago, it mattered. Crossbones's specials aren't subpar, though. Awesome power on sp2, decent power on sp1, and a cool sp3 that, as mentioned above, really only matters for a casual (during my 3* days, I used sp3 a lot.)

    Not the most relevant, but I just wanted to get that out there.
  • Camarofanatic90Camarofanatic90 Posts: 23
    edited July 2018
    Both are amazing champs, I seen Seatin use Gp on the webslinger challenge and at 50 hits it shut down Spider-Man’s evade, and my crossbones stops taking damage from electro at 5 stacks of furies
  • TheSquish671TheSquish671 Posts: 2,819 ★★★★★
    Gp sp3 has a good armor break if i remember correctly
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