Does Corvus Glaive’s crits bypass Antman’s glance?

No, it doesn't. Even if you had more than 100% crit rate, you won't be able to crit on a glanced hit

Cain

Thanks, wasn’t sure if I could use that to help with that challange lol. Gonna try using Hyperion and Morning Star.

When he hits with his glaive while he has Glaive charges, yes

Fixxx wrote: »

When he hits with his glaive while he has Glaive charges, yes

If it is a glanced hit, if will not be crit even if he consumes a glaive charge

Do you have Corvus Glaive?

Just tested it and it is actually bypassing glancing. But that sounds like a bug (also saw this being reported sometimes in the past), since there doesn't seem to be any reason for it to happen

The reason is likely because that’s the way his Glaive charges work

Cain

Hmm so good news, he still hits through glance...bad news, it glances and reflects damage...

lol well I guess I’ll take it.

Marri

Guys, seriously, use a big champion. Everyone has one at 3-30 at least, which is enough to work with.

I fought the ELAM 5x (had a bit of trouble with the paths as they got harder) but I oneshot AM every single time with a 4-40 Rulk. But I would have done the same with a 3-30 Hulk, for example. It's just a vehehehery long fight. But super easy, the only challenge is to stay awake.

will-o-wisp wrote: »

Just tested it and it is actually bypassing glancing. But that sounds like a bug (also saw this being reported sometimes in the past), since there doesn't seem to be any reason for it to happen

This hasn't been 'reported as a bug'. You had this exact same discussion back in Corvus's spotlight:
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Creditz

It's a yellow crit hit but I noticed that it's only half the damage of a normal one

Creditz wrote: »

It's a yellow crit hit but I noticed that it's only half the damage of a normal one

Hmmm. That's interesting. Any thoughts, @BitterSteel? 734 damage does seem low for a 12K champion with two stacks of cruelty.

Maybe Glancing is working after all...? Have to say, I'll be a little pleased if it is. I suspect @will-o-wisp will be, too!

So in fact, where we thought Corvus might be a counter to Ant-Man; the reverse is actually true? Ant-Man uses Glancing to use up Corvus's charges, leaving him open to a beating?

ROFL! Go Ant-Man.

If there is a bug, I consider it a bug on Ant-Man. His Glancing affects Offensive Ability Accuracy--Glaive charges I surmise is passive based on its icon, which means hits on glaived attacks should not be glanced and not be subject to -100% Offensive Ability Accuracy reduction

It would be better if a mod can chime in and clarify the interaction of Pym Gas Control and Glaive charges

Fixxx wrote: »

If there is a bug, I consider it a bug on Ant-Man. His Glancing affects Offensive Ability Accuracy--Glaive charges I surmise is passive based on its icon, which means hits on glaived attacks should not be glanced and not be subject to -100% Offensive Ability Accuracy reduction

It would be better if a mod can chime in and clarify the interaction of Pym Gas Control and Glaive charges

I actually think it's the opposite. Glaive charges icon is just there to let the player know how many crits are left before it goes to cooldown. Other than that, os jist a 100% crit rate, which should be affevted by glancing (as there are other examples in the game, like spider-man sym sp2, which is affected by glancing)

will-o-wisp wrote: »

Fixxx wrote: »

If there is a bug, I consider it a bug on Ant-Man. His Glancing affects Offensive Ability Accuracy--Glaive charges I surmise is passive based on its icon, which means hits on glaived attacks should not be glanced and not be subject to -100% Offensive Ability Accuracy reduction

It would be better if a mod can chime in and clarify the interaction of Pym Gas Control and Glaive charges

Glaive charges icon is just there to let the player know how many crits are left before it goes to cooldown.

Then wouldn't it be a simple matter to show Glaive charges as active buffs the way True Damage is shown?

Glaive charges aren't supposed to be buffs ... Is just an icon to let the player know what is happening in the battle. It happens with many champions in the game

BitterSteel wrote: »

Fixxx wrote: »

will-o-wisp wrote: »

Fixxx wrote: »

If there is a bug, I consider it a bug on Ant-Man. His Glancing affects Offensive Ability Accuracy--Glaive charges I surmise is passive based on its icon, which means hits on glaived attacks should not be glanced and not be subject to -100% Offensive Ability Accuracy reduction

It would be better if a mod can chime in and clarify the interaction of Pym Gas Control and Glaive charges

Glaive charges icon is just there to let the player know how many crits are left before it goes to cooldown.

Then wouldn't it be a simple matter to show Glaive charges as active buffs the way True Damage is shown?

That wouldn’t be a great idea, it would feed mystic dispersion to hell.

That's the point. It's not a buff, though True Damage is which can be nullified

BitterSteel wrote: »

Fixxx wrote: »

will-o-wisp wrote: »

Fixxx wrote: »

If there is a bug, I consider it a bug on Ant-Man. His Glancing affects Offensive Ability Accuracy--Glaive charges I surmise is passive based on its icon, which means hits on glaived attacks should not be glanced and not be subject to -100% Offensive Ability Accuracy reduction

It would be better if a mod can chime in and clarify the interaction of Pym Gas Control and Glaive charges

Glaive charges icon is just there to let the player know how many crits are left before it goes to cooldown.

Then wouldn't it be a simple matter to show Glaive charges as active buffs the way True Damage is shown?

That wouldn’t be a great idea, it would feed mystic dispersion to hell.

Maybe, but wouldn't that be the point of the class disadvantage?

BitterSteel wrote: »

Yeah it reduces the damage for sure. To me, it seems like a bit of a “what happens when an irresistible force meets an immovable object?” situation. Corvus has guaranteed critical hits, but Ant man’s glancing cannot crit. So who wins? Corvus has to have crits, but ant man cannot have crits.

I can't speak to Corvus, but I tested this very thing years ago with Elektra who also has guaranteed crits given the right conditions. In an Elektra vs. Ant Man matchup, glancing stopped the crits from triggering, despite Elektra having a 100% chance to crit.

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BitterSteel wrote: »

Mirage_Turtle wrote: »

BitterSteel wrote: »

Yeah it reduces the damage for sure. To me, it seems like a bit of a “what happens when an irresistible force meets an immovable object?” situation. Corvus has guaranteed critical hits, but Ant man’s glancing cannot crit. So who wins? Corvus has to have crits, but ant man cannot have crits.

I can't speak to Corvus, but I tested this very thing years ago with Elektra who also has guaranteed crits given the right conditions. In an Elektra vs. Ant Man matchup, glancing stopped the crits from triggering, despite Elektra having a 100% chance to crit.

I think the problem here is that you are assuming “Guaranteed” means the same as “100% chance”. The former is how Corvus works, the latter is elektra.

To be fair, Elektra is listed as "Guaranteed" as well.

"While the opponent has less than 15% Health, this Champion strikes with guaranteed Critical Hits".

Again, I can't speak to Corvus. I was just trying to provide some insight based on my own testing from years ago.

BitterSteel wrote: »

Mirage_Turtle wrote: »

BitterSteel wrote: »

Fixxx wrote: »

will-o-wisp wrote: »

Fixxx wrote: »

If there is a bug, I consider it a bug on Ant-Man. His Glancing affects Offensive Ability Accuracy--Glaive charges I surmise is passive based on its icon, which means hits on glaived attacks should not be glanced and not be subject to -100% Offensive Ability Accuracy reduction

It would be better if a mod can chime in and clarify the interaction of Pym Gas Control and Glaive charges

Glaive charges icon is just there to let the player know how many crits are left before it goes to cooldown.

Then wouldn't it be a simple matter to show Glaive charges as active buffs the way True Damage is shown?

That wouldn’t be a great idea, it would feed mystic dispersion to hell.

Maybe, but wouldn't that be the point of the class disadvantage?

The point of a class advantage is to provide an attack boost to the one with it, and to reduce damage for the one with the disadvantage.

A class disadvantage is not meant to interact with masteries to provide 12% power per hit. They make champions with this in mind. Think of Carnage. When he came out, kabam specifically said his buffs were passive so that every time they switched from fury to precision during his MLLLM combo, it didn’t feed MD

Actually, the loading screens used to speak to the attributes of certain classes and the specific reasons they have advantages and disadvantages against other classes.

In the game, it was said that Cosmic champs were reliant on buffs to increase damage output and defense. This holds true when thinking of some of the oldest and even the newer champs. Drax, Black Bolt, Ms. Marvel, Superior Iron Man...all use buffs to make themselves better.

On the other hand, mystics are known for their ability to nullify buffs in various ways. Iron Fist can armor break. Dr. Strange can counterspell. Scarlet Witch can nullify. Juggernaut can stagger. The loading screens stated that this was a reason mystics hold a class advantage over cosmics.

Conversely, Science champs have naturally high base attributes that can't be nullified and they don't often rely on buffs, which is why mystics are at a disadvantage against them.

Please keep in mind that this isn't simply a personal observation of champion interactions. These are descriptions that were given to us in-game.

I'd say that with all that, it would fit well in the established rules if mystics could actively nullify or otherwise benefit from Corvus' charges. I'm not calling for it. I'm just saying that it would make sense.

Armaganon00

Karnak does..