war is not fun anymore

The difficulty increase in war makes it not fun anymore. Node 30 is near impossible to beat without heavy spending and boosts. Getting stuck on it means the group can't clear. It's not fun getting stuck on nodes that are designed to be so difficult.

Kabam says they don't want us to 100% the map. Then don't put the hardest nodes on paths that are required to be taken down to reach the boss. The old war map used to have super hard nodes on the top and far right, and skipping them meant we could still reach and kill bosses. If alliances wanted to increase exploration, they could fight the hard nodes too.

But this map is reversed and makes no sense. The hardest nodes should be unlinked and not link other nodes and should be on paths 1 and 9 so alliances could choose to skip them and reduce exploration %, and still reach the boss. Hardest node shouldn't be in the middle paths where not clearing it stalls the entire map. It's bad design.

We send 3 people to node 30 and they can't take it down. This is not an issue of "get good". We have great fighters who are all just outmatched by this node and it's taking the fun out of the game mode because it makes the players in the middle paths feel like cr.ap. This is a game. It should be fun. It should not be so stressful because people can't clear an impossible node.

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hurricant

node 30 is stupid and should be changed

xNig

bdawg923 wrote: »

The difficulty increase in war makes it not fun anymore. Node 30 is near impossible to beat without heavy spending and boosts. Getting stuck on it means the group can't clear. It's not fun getting stuck on nodes that are designed to be so difficult.

Kabam says they don't want us to 100% the map. Then don't put the hardest nodes on paths that are required to be taken down to reach the boss. The old war map used to have super hard nodes on the top and far right, and skipping them meant we could still reach and kill bosses. If alliances wanted to increase exploration, they could fight the hard nodes too.

But this map is reversed and makes no sense. The hardest nodes should be unlinked and not link other nodes and should be on paths 1 and 9 so alliances could choose to skip them and reduce exploration %, and still reach the boss. Hardest node shouldn't be in the middle paths where not clearing it stalls the entire map. It's bad design.

We send 3 people to node 30 and they can't take it down. This is not an issue of "get good". We have great fighters who are all just outmatched by this node and it's taking the fun out of the game mode because it makes the players in the middle paths feel like cr.ap. This is a game. It should be fun. It should not be so stressful because people can't clear an impossible node.

First time I took node 30, spent 15/15 items but finally took it down.

Second time I took it, spent 5 items.

Third time, spent 0 items.

Seriously, it’s doable. Those in the middle just need to figure out how to handle it.

Rajuteda

Off late playing this game leaves me stressful and angry and my wife keeps asking me why dont i stop playing this game?

There is no fun anymore and i seriously regret all the money spent. I guess ill walk away thinking i had a bad dream

ezmoney

agreed. AW is a spend fest.... whoever's insane enough to blow through the most items for weak rewards wins.

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Mattylo

I agree they are awful and personally have lost any enjoyment in AW.

I do know its an adjustment phase etc but i feel like i am being milked. The node is manageable at times like some have mentioned but it really depends on who was placed, your tier and who you have available.

My alliance are connstantly adjusting paths and strategies to try and counter these nodes and still running into issues. So far we have fought 5 wars in tier 3 with these nodes and are 4/5 wins. However its a blood bath. We havent run into one alliance that can do 100% yet.

So clearly those that want to say its easy and dont understand the fuss are typically in a different situation then most and as it appears by the many post on this are in the minority. The Majority are having issues which means its a problem plain and simple.

MattMan

AW is an item pit now. You will see most alliances agree on a no item use war except for the very top who spend thousands of dollars anyway

They should listen to the community and undo these last changes.

New_Noob168

Well. Don't play then. Seriously, you guys fall for the same thing over and over. They buff nodes. You get frustrated and spend money. Just stop and don't spend or don't play war.

Badrose

War is not fun anymore since they changed the map a year ago.

RJ03

besides that bs node 30.... its ridiculous we are still in off season wasting our resources for NO REWARDS...

hurricant

RJ03 wrote: »

besides that bs node 30.... its ridiculous we are still in off season wasting our resources for NO REWARDS...

it's crazy especially since seasons have always existed

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token555

I have fought that node every war since the update. it really is a total bs node. I've cleared it all but one time but it really depends on who is placed there. (ranging from 0 items to 15 items) The fact is that this node is harder then the boss node, and alliances have been catching on and placing their rank 5 champs on this node and weaker champs as the boss.
Since all lines converge at the final boss, the boss should be the hardest node in the map, not a node smack in the middle that links (and therefore blocks) two other paths. It really makes no sense.

token555

I will add that I agree with the op in terms of it not being fun anymore. The new map (and this node in particular) has me debating quitting alliance game play completely.

Narcuul

They sucked out what little fun was left and replaced it with stress. Despite the absurd claim that they don't expect us to clear a map every time, my alliance will. If I am the cause for not completing that war map, that's not going to be my alliance much longer and it won't be my decision.

hurricant

Dropfaith wrote: »

I only have 3 fights on node 30
6 bishop no items used
5 domino no items used (had like 8 percent t health remain)
5 hulk (easy easy fight )
Not seeing these issues I guess

what tier?

hurricant

xNig wrote: »

bdawg923 wrote: »

The difficulty increase in war makes it not fun anymore. Node 30 is near impossible to beat without heavy spending and boosts. Getting stuck on it means the group can't clear. It's not fun getting stuck on nodes that are designed to be so difficult.

Kabam says they don't want us to 100% the map. Then don't put the hardest nodes on paths that are required to be taken down to reach the boss. The old war map used to have super hard nodes on the top and far right, and skipping them meant we could still reach and kill bosses. If alliances wanted to increase exploration, they could fight the hard nodes too.

But this map is reversed and makes no sense. The hardest nodes should be unlinked and not link other nodes and should be on paths 1 and 9 so alliances could choose to skip them and reduce exploration %, and still reach the boss. Hardest node shouldn't be in the middle paths where not clearing it stalls the entire map. It's bad design.

We send 3 people to node 30 and they can't take it down. This is not an issue of "get good". We have great fighters who are all just outmatched by this node and it's taking the fun out of the game mode because it makes the players in the middle paths feel like cr.ap. This is a game. It should be fun. It should not be so stressful because people can't clear an impossible node.

First time I took node 30, spent 15/15 items but finally took it down.

Second time I took it, spent 5 items.

Third time, spent 0 items.

Seriously, it’s doable. Those in the middle just need to figure out how to handle it.

depends who is on it. i have blade and i face magik there and die only 1 time. faced medusa, and 3 people died 3 times each with full health champs. we had placed hyperion once, he died with 1 kill. we placed hulk ragnarok, he got 16 kills. this is tier 3

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MabkaZuck

Too hard = not fun?
LAME

Lvernon15

Personally, I like the challenge, I’m in a play 1-2 ally and aw is my favourite game mode, it’s the only area where skill and choices of character play such a big part, I know I’m in the minority but I love a challenge

beyonder8421

It stopped being fun when they changed the map last year. The seasons only made things feel worse. If I have to buy potions to complete something I have to do every day, then it means I am not ready for that type of content. And when I have 700k+ rating and two 5/65, I am going to assume that I am very bad at this, or the system is broken.
I decided that War is not a priority for me, as it only adds stress. I can easily do the occasional challenges and uncollected monthly. Plus I finished Act 5 a few months ago. So, maybe I am bad at war and because Kabam is pressuring alliances to be very good at it, I decided to get away from big alliances, so I can have a fun experience.

I cannot be the only one experiencing this. AQ is kinda fun, but also requires you to be up til late, waiting for everyone to finish their paths. Even if it is not til late, you have to log in frequently and have LINE installed in your phone, spending even more time of your life in something that will mean nothing in your future or to your loved ones.

This is a very toxic experience, I think AQ and AW were designed poorly, with the intention of engaging players even more, and making them spend more time online. And this is the case with most of their features, except normal story quests as they take a few minutes to spend all your energy, and then you have the option to wait.

I would even say that AW was never fun for me, but it used to be more fun when alliances weren't abusing certain things on it. I think piloting is one of the signs it is broken. All the alliances I have been (except the current one, as we are retired players), had someone piloting accounts to be able to win. For several reasons, mostly because of low performing devices, or because it is unrealistic to expect players to be online all day and/or night (it gets complicated when you have mixed timezones).

Adding seasons was the sign I needed, to know I can no longer play in great alliances. And it's ok. I don't have to be competitive, I guess I will just grow at my own pace.

Nick_Caine_32

Played this game for over three years and war used to be so much fun. Less stress, and would love to see which nodes would be best with each defender. They changed the map and then it was all downhill from there. It’s really sad to see what’s been done to it. With AQ just a long monotonous outdated game mode, at least we had war to look forward to. Now we don’t care if we win or lose.

xNig

hurricant wrote: »

xNig wrote: »

bdawg923 wrote: »

The difficulty increase in war makes it not fun anymore. Node 30 is near impossible to beat without heavy spending and boosts. Getting stuck on it means the group can't clear. It's not fun getting stuck on nodes that are designed to be so difficult.

Kabam says they don't want us to 100% the map. Then don't put the hardest nodes on paths that are required to be taken down to reach the boss. The old war map used to have super hard nodes on the top and far right, and skipping them meant we could still reach and kill bosses. If alliances wanted to increase exploration, they could fight the hard nodes too.

But this map is reversed and makes no sense. The hardest nodes should be unlinked and not link other nodes and should be on paths 1 and 9 so alliances could choose to skip them and reduce exploration %, and still reach the boss. Hardest node shouldn't be in the middle paths where not clearing it stalls the entire map. It's bad design.

We send 3 people to node 30 and they can't take it down. This is not an issue of "get good". We have great fighters who are all just outmatched by this node and it's taking the fun out of the game mode because it makes the players in the middle paths feel like cr.ap. This is a game. It should be fun. It should not be so stressful because people can't clear an impossible node.

First time I took node 30, spent 15/15 items but finally took it down.

Second time I took it, spent 5 items.

Third time, spent 0 items.

Seriously, it’s doable. Those in the middle just need to figure out how to handle it.

depends who is on it. i have blade and i face magik there and die only 1 time. faced medusa, and 3 people died 3 times each with full health champs. we had placed hyperion once, he died with 1 kill. we placed hulk ragnarok, he got 16 kills. this is tier 3

Magik, Medusa, Medusa.

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lozzadude

Node 27 is really tough now too. Wars are now pay to win. We're not using items as it's off season but we've lost wars to other alliances who have used a ridiculous amounts of items despite it being off season. When the season 3 starts you're just gonna have to use items to win & in some cases it will be who uses/spends the most items.

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BLEEDlNG_DGE

All the skill and experience gods around here that keep telling us how easy it is... video or it didn't happen

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FlazTheDestroyer

My alliance has decided to take it easy in war going forward. Not worth the effort in items and stress tbh, kabam really shot themselves in the foot imo with this last update to Aw.

Voluntaris

Dropfaith wrote: »

I only have 3 fights on node 30
6 bishop no items used
5 domino no items used (had like 8 percent t health remain)
5 hulk (easy easy fight )
Not seeing these issues I guess

get back to us once you've fought 5/65 awakened Killmonger on 30.