Since the day this alliance (New Nation) was formed we have cleared 100% every map and that’s our witness
So atleast please give us the points for clearing the map 100%
We still had held back backups when the game went down
Right, it didn't sound like they were asking for an assumed victory, but an assumed completion of the maps. I think most alliances tier 5 or above are still completing the maps.. is this accurate?
I am an officer in New Nation, our goal for this season was to Rank first in the Master bracket and we have done hours of preparation and spent thousands of thousands to prepare for this season
After the first war in the season we were the number one alliance in master bracket and we were up in our second war, it was a 100% win for us against ASR and then the game went down and we lost the opportunity to take down the bosses and win the war
As you know you lose so many points if you don’t clear the map 100% and now not only we lost our chance to win the season 3 as rank one, but most likely we wouldn’t even be in master bracket.
This is unacceptable
Alliance wars at the highest level is a different scenario and requires so much planing up until the last minutes and taking away those last minutes from an alliance who was doing great and going forward based on a plan is not the same thing as taking away 45 minuets from a casual low level alliance. Also the rewards for top alliance that are competing at the top changes hugely from rank one to rank 10 or from master bracket to platinum bracket so that down time effected us very differently from other alliances in the lower levels.
Before this we were at rank one in the master bracket and it hurt our season score so much that it took away any chance for us to get back to the top of master bracket, specially that seasons are shorter now
So the auto reply that you sent to everyone is just not gonna work for our alliance and you have to fix our score because we know you have done it before for other alliances like MMXIV.
We will not rest until this wrong doing that was done to our alliance gets fixed.
please investigate what happened to our alliance properly and come up with a proper respond, we know you have the data but we have all the evidence and footage to backup our claim if you need us to provide you with some.
Again i ask how do you know your rank? Brackets havent been formed yet.
Also its not 100% until it says "victory". ASR down all 3 bosses before the server issue, why didnt you? Who says you would of downed all the nodes that were left? You dont know that. You also don't k ow how many times you would have died to those nodes either. You lost, get over it.
I respect all opinions posted in this thread. Again, it is important Kabam states their stance on this issue.
Would we clear the map: absolutely guaranteed
Would be clear it without dying: we think so, but impossible to know. Given this was Kabam server issue, we should be given benefit of the doubt and be awarded victory points. ASR should keep their victory bonus as well. I believe that’s the fairest outcome.
I respect all opinions posted in this thread. Again, it is important Kabam states their stance on this issue.
Would we clear the map: absolutely guaranteed
Would be clear it without dying: we think so, but impossible to know. Given this was Kabam server issue, we should be given benefit of the doubt and be awarded victory points. ASR should keep their victory bonus as well. I believe that’s the fairest outcome.
Is it their issue you couldn't clear the map faster like your opponent?
Is it their issue you couldn't clear the map faster like your opponent?[/quote]
Yeah actually it is, it's a timed event. It should matter if you do it in the first hour or last 5 minutes because you are allowed a predetermined amount of time.
I respect all opinions posted in this thread. Again, it is important Kabam states their stance on this issue.
Would we clear the map: absolutely guaranteed
Would be clear it without dying: we think so, but impossible to know. Given this was Kabam server issue, we should be given benefit of the doubt and be awarded victory points. ASR should keep their victory bonus as well. I believe that’s the fairest outcome.
Is it their issue you couldn't clear the map faster like your opponent?
If the point of war is to clear as fast as possible why is it a 24 hour war?
I respect all opinions posted in this thread. Again, it is important Kabam states their stance on this issue.
Would we clear the map: absolutely guaranteed
Would be clear it without dying: we think so, but impossible to know. Given this was Kabam server issue, we should be given benefit of the doubt and be awarded victory points. ASR should keep their victory bonus as well. I believe that’s the fairest outcome.
Is it their issue you couldn't clear the map faster like your opponent?
If the point of war is to clear as fast as possible why is it a 24 hour war?
There should be no wait period for energy, that way we can actually complete more tasks in the game. I want T1 rewards also because everything has to be equal to be fair if you are giving out free stuff. Actually I'll take Master's rewards
I'm sure they will come up with something, game had to come down.
What’s good about leaving it to see what opposition do when in seasons the boss needs to go down even if your behind, just for points.
So waiting last minute to see if what your enemy are doing is pointless, because even if they were stuck, you would still need your boss down anyway even if it’s a win without, solely for points
What’s good about leaving it to see what opposition do when in seasons the boss needs to go down even if your behind, just for points.
So waiting last minute to see if what your enemy are doing is pointless, because even if they were stuck, you would still need your boss down anyway even if it’s a win without, solely for points
You may disagree with our strategy and that's fine. Game outage has to be made right however.
What’s good about leaving it to see what opposition do when in seasons the boss needs to go down even if your behind, just for points.
So waiting last minute to see if what your enemy are doing is pointless, because even if they were stuck, you would still need your boss down anyway even if it’s a win without, solely for points
You may disagree with our strategy and that's fine. Game outage has to be made right however.
Dont hold your breath. Its not going to happen since it wasnt something that wasnt guaranteed regardless if you say it was or not.
What’s good about leaving it to see what opposition do when in seasons the boss needs to go down even if your behind, just for points.
So waiting last minute to see if what your enemy are doing is pointless, because even if they were stuck, you would still need your boss down anyway even if it’s a win without, solely for points
You may disagree with our strategy and that's fine. Game outage has to be made right however.
But do you not see that it’s quite daft to have that strategy?
Because you know yourself no matter if ahead or miles behind, you still need to go for the boss kill.
So it makes it pointless waiting for the opposition doesn’t it, you should of just gone gung-ho to win without waiting about
I can agree that yes it wasn’t a 100% win for us, but not only did we lost the opportunity to go for the win but we lost the opportunity to clear the map. We aren’t asking to be given a win, but at least give us our points for the map clear. It’s a significant hit to our season being docked 600k points because of a kabam server outage that we didn’t know about. We would be fine with a loss, just give us the points.
who's to say that you would have for sure taken out the 4 nodes(2 of them bosses) without taking 2 deaths? i understand the frustration, but, kabam nor anyone else can assume that you would've won the war to begin with. i understand the strategy, but, that's what it was, a strategy. if there wasn't a risk/reward to doing it that way it wouldn't be a "strategy" it'd just be the way. sucks that it went that way.
It’s not about win or lose as you are right, no one could have predicted that outcome. It is about the ability to finish the map. 2 bosses count 40.000 points. And yes there is a certainty that the bosses would have gone down. 10 players who can beat them no question they would have fallen.
40.000 points x 7 is 280.000 points we would have got with certainty. No one is claiming the points for victory.
I am a member in New Nation, our goal for this season was to Rank first in the Master bracket and we have done hours of preparation and spent thousands of thousands to prepare for this season
After the first war in the season we were the number one alliance in master bracket and we were up in our second war, it was a 100% win for us against ASR and then the game went down and we lost the opportunity to take down the bosses and win the war
As you know you lose so many points if you don’t clear the map 100% and now not only we lost our chance to win the season 3 as rank one, but most likely we wouldn’t even be in master bracket.
This is unacceptable
Alliance wars at the highest level is a different scenario and requires so much planing up until the last minutes and taking away those last minutes from an alliance who was doing great and going forward based on a plan is not the same thing as taking away 45 minuets from a casual low level alliance. Also the rewards for top alliance that are competing at the top changes hugely from rank one to rank 10 or from master bracket to platinum bracket so that down time effected us very differently from other alliances in the lower levels.
Before this we were at rank one in the master bracket and it hurt our season score so much that it took away any chance for us to get back to the top of master bracket, specially that seasons are shorter now
So the auto reply that you sent to everyone is just not gonna work for our alliance and you have to fix our score because we know you have done it before for other alliances like MMXIV.
We will not rest until this wrong doing that was done to our alliance gets fixed.
please investigate what happened to our alliance properly and come up with a proper respond, we know you have the data but we have all the evidence and footage to backup our claim if you need us to provide you with some
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So atleast please give us the points for clearing the map 100%
We still had held back backups when the game went down
Again i ask how do you know your rank? Brackets havent been formed yet.
Also its not 100% until it says "victory". ASR down all 3 bosses before the server issue, why didnt you? Who says you would of downed all the nodes that were left? You dont know that. You also don't k ow how many times you would have died to those nodes either. You lost, get over it.
Would we clear the map: absolutely guaranteed
Would be clear it without dying: we think so, but impossible to know. Given this was Kabam server issue, we should be given benefit of the doubt and be awarded victory points. ASR should keep their victory bonus as well. I believe that’s the fairest outcome.
Is it their issue you couldn't clear the map faster like your opponent?
Yeah actually it is, it's a timed event. It should matter if you do it in the first hour or last 5 minutes because you are allowed a predetermined amount of time.
If the point of war is to clear as fast as possible why is it a 24 hour war?
There should be no wait period for energy, that way we can actually complete more tasks in the game. I want T1 rewards also because everything has to be equal to be fair if you are giving out free stuff. Actually I'll take Master's rewards
I'm sure they will come up with something, game had to come down.
What’s good about leaving it to see what opposition do when in seasons the boss needs to go down even if your behind, just for points.
So waiting last minute to see if what your enemy are doing is pointless, because even if they were stuck, you would still need your boss down anyway even if it’s a win without, solely for points
You may disagree with our strategy and that's fine. Game outage has to be made right however.
Dont hold your breath. Its not going to happen since it wasnt something that wasnt guaranteed regardless if you say it was or not.
But do you not see that it’s quite daft to have that strategy?
Because you know yourself no matter if ahead or miles behind, you still need to go for the boss kill.
So it makes it pointless waiting for the opposition doesn’t it, you should of just gone gung-ho to win without waiting about
You know the game is world wide right? Time difference is a huge factor in when people are available to play. Some of the guys may have just woken up.
yes you did. 23 hours and 20 mins before the end. Plenty of time.
That’s how
This is why you wait until the actual leaderboards come out. I show you are in Gold 1.
I heard you guys were tied due to diversity difference. So you weren't actually in position to win.
It’s not about win or lose as you are right, no one could have predicted that outcome. It is about the ability to finish the map. 2 bosses count 40.000 points. And yes there is a certainty that the bosses would have gone down. 10 players who can beat them no question they would have fallen.
40.000 points x 7 is 280.000 points we would have got with certainty. No one is claiming the points for victory.
After the first war in the season we were the number one alliance in master bracket and we were up in our second war, it was a 100% win for us against ASR and then the game went down and we lost the opportunity to take down the bosses and win the war
As you know you lose so many points if you don’t clear the map 100% and now not only we lost our chance to win the season 3 as rank one, but most likely we wouldn’t even be in master bracket.
This is unacceptable
Alliance wars at the highest level is a different scenario and requires so much planing up until the last minutes and taking away those last minutes from an alliance who was doing great and going forward based on a plan is not the same thing as taking away 45 minuets from a casual low level alliance. Also the rewards for top alliance that are competing at the top changes hugely from rank one to rank 10 or from master bracket to platinum bracket so that down time effected us very differently from other alliances in the lower levels.
Before this we were at rank one in the master bracket and it hurt our season score so much that it took away any chance for us to get back to the top of master bracket, specially that seasons are shorter now
So the auto reply that you sent to everyone is just not gonna work for our alliance and you have to fix our score because we know you have done it before for other alliances like MMXIV.
We will not rest until this wrong doing that was done to our alliance gets fixed.
please investigate what happened to our alliance properly and come up with a proper respond, we know you have the data but we have all the evidence and footage to backup our claim if you need us to provide you with some
@Kabam Miike, please say something here. "We are working on this.. stay tuned" would suffice.