An honest to goodness discussion poll on the Uncollected Adaptoid this month

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EvilEmpire

I was finally happy to have a duped 5* ronin on my roster.

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MattMan

Is the adaptoid on the tricky/more difficult side? Yes, but he is by no means unbeatable.

I'd like to amend my Vote to Master. Uncollected isn't my focus. Although if I find it excessive in Master, I can imagine it's extreme in Uncollected. I would also like to point out that I don't feel completely nerfing the Boss would be good. I just think it's a little overboard for a monthly EQ.

Logan

Blade stops unblockable

Oh god why? Again?

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V1PER1987

5 posts a day on this? Just about time to retire from forums. Same topic different day.

Dexman1349

He isn't impossible, but it is definitely a difficult fight if you expect to simply walk in with your favorite random champ and hope to win.

First and foremost, the obligitory "git gud". Unblockable sucks, but it is manageable if you are paying attention and can intercept well. I despise stun-immunity buffs, and unblockable is the next step worse because you can't even bait heavy attacks.

Second, champ selection is key. It's more than just a Ronan stun-chain (although that's who I used). Plenty of other options like Nebula and Medusa both shut down robot ability accuracy if played right and he never even gets the ability to be unblockable. There are a stack of champs able to deal with the power gain and/or regen as well (plus his specials are some of the easiest to evade and he doesn't have an SP3 to worry about).

There was a post elsewhere on the forums with a list of champs able to deal with him that included at least 15% of the champs in the game.

Ib4 GW

Woozie

Medusa armor shatter after you sp3 destroys most of the HydraAdaptoid abilities, even a 4 star unduped medusa can do it.
Really not that hard guys and uncollected is hard for a reason if you struggle with a champ like this you are not worthy of 100% uncollected.

ZzyzxGuy wrote: »

Ib4 GW

In the words of The Friendy Giant, "Look up. Waaaay up.".

JRock808

V1PER1987 wrote: »

5 posts a day on this? Just about time to retire from forums. Same topic different day.

Same topic, same day,

Woozie wrote: »

Medusa armor shatter after you sp3 destroys most of the HydraAdaptoid abilities, even a 4 star unduped medusa can do it.
Really not that hard guys and uncollected is hard for a reason if you struggle with a champ like this you are not worthy of 100% uncollected.

Your grounded wisdom on this topic is, sadly, too late as the horse has been thoroughly beat.

Now you're just fishing.

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Now you're just fishing.

He arrives.

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

ZzyzxGuy wrote: »

Ib4 GW

In the words of The Friendy Giant, "Look up. Waaaay up.".

Oh dammit.

You win this round.

ZzyzxGuy wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

ZzyzxGuy wrote: »

Ib4 GW

In the words of The Friendy Giant, "Look up. Waaaay up.".

Oh dammit.

You win this round.

I was afraid no one would get that reference. Lol. Dating myself there.

Headroller

Stop it or they will bring back thanos

Hulksmasshh

ZzyzxGuy wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Now you're just fishing.

He arrives.

Just like my dog comes running when he hears food, GW will come running when he hears Adaptoid.

Hulksmasshh wrote: »

ZzyzxGuy wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Now you're just fishing.

He arrives.

Just like my dog comes running when he hears food, GW will come running when he hears Adaptoid.

Oh come now. GW grows on you after awhile. Like a benign tumor.

I have to give props to a guy that can facilitate so much angst just by posting.

DNA3000

raffster wrote: »

So what do you guys think for future Uncollected final bosses? Was this Adaptoid well thought of or was it designed to ensure that players cheap shot it with a 3* Ronan or spend a bazillion units to a take down?

Are those my only two choices? I don't think the Adaptoid was "well thought out" but I don't think it was designed to only allow cheap shots either. It is near the high end of uncollected difficulty, but not the hardest thing to show up so far (uncollected Guillotine was harder in my opinion and had an unblockable phase under some paths). I think the fact that I can beat it with imperfect play skills combined with the fact that the number of proposed good match ups for the Adaptoid number in the dozens means it isn't too hard for uncollected.

I probably wouldn't have designed the Adaptoid in quite the way it was released, but that's not the same thing as saying it needs to be nerfed. For me the hurdle for nerfing content in uncollected is that if you believe that among the higher ranked players in the game using reasonably diverse rosters, reasonably strong gameplay, and careful analysis of the content if it is unlikely that a very large fraction of them would be capable of completing it, it is probably too difficult. In other words, it is high, and in my opinion uncollected Adaptoid doesn't qualify.

The last part about careful analysis is, in my opinion, in very short supply when it comes to complaints about the difficulty of the Adaptoid, just as it was for uncollected Thanos. Like it or not, part of this game is thinking about the content and strategizing with your roster, your potions, and your specific gameplay tactics. It isn't just about who has the fastest thumbs. If a player thinks they are just "supposed" to beat certain content just because of their veteran status or which content they've beaten before, they are simply in error, and the game clearly isn't honoring that assumption. Just because I've beaten uncollected before, doesn't mean I'm supposed to have a guarantee of beating it next time. There is such a thing as "too hard" but that bar is very, very high for uncollected.

Hulksmasshh

ZzyzxGuy wrote: »

Hulksmasshh wrote: »

ZzyzxGuy wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Now you're just fishing.

He arrives.

Just like my dog comes running when he hears food, GW will come running when he hears Adaptoid.

Oh come now. GW grows on you after awhile. Like a benign tumor.

I have to give props to a guy that can facilitate so much angst just by posting.

That’s a fair analogy. Like a benign tumor, mostly harmless you just know it’s there and ignore it. But if it starts growing, you cut that **** out like cancer lol