Summoner Appreciation Week Discussion

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  • ThatweirdguyThatweirdguy Member Posts: 675 ★★★
    Ace_03 wrote: »

    The UMCOC podcast is fine as long as you understand their intentions. They are Kabam apologists. They are really hoping that Kabam one day involves them somehow. They offer their services to Kabam regularly. They censor their Discord server. Which is fine they can do all that if they want to but nobody should expect an unbiased opinion on their program. I still listen but understand their agenda.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Jaffacaked wrote: »

    Well just another thing you can come to the forum for to make yourself feel superior about. Go play with buddy GW

    You were just trying to make yourself seem superior by correcting him. Seems a tad hypocritical to me.
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 7,498 ★★★★★
    26 pages in this thread and still no kabam Miike input. :(
  • Kobster84Kobster84 Member Posts: 2,898 ★★★★★
    Palanthrax wrote: »
    Hasn’t anyone noticed yet that the more we ask, the less we get?

    Kabam is teaching us life lessons, in the same way that we teach toddlers to prepare them for the harsh reality of life.

    I see Miike as something of a father figure.

    Daddy...
    Lol but I think the real reason is just for more money
  • IrohrIrohr Member Posts: 254 ★★
    Palanthrax wrote: »
    Hasn’t anyone noticed yet that the more we ask, the less we get?

    Kabam is teaching us life lessons, in the same way that we teach toddlers to prepare them for the harsh reality of life.

    I see Miike as something of a father figure.

    Daddy...

    Yeah he's the Shou Tucker of father's lol
  • DarthPhalDarthPhal Member Posts: 1,064 ★★★★
    I think people who are surprised that others are still spending on the game are working under the assumption that everyone is experiencing issues to the extent that they are.
  • Noob2435Noob2435 Member Posts: 627 ★★★
    Have you guys noticed the amount of people banned lately?
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  • roastedbagelroastedbagel Member Posts: 352 ★★★

    The only thing we want Kabam to involve us in, is communication...the very thing these *26 pages* are complaining about. I'm not aware of anything else we're wanting from them by way of involvement.

    As far as being apologists, maybe my other co-hosts display more sympathy than others, but I'm pretty open about the sh*t-talking tangents I go on...at least I thought I was.

    Anyway appreciate you listening and I'll probably address this next episode, we're just as unhappy as the rest.
  • ThatweirdguyThatweirdguy Member Posts: 675 ★★★

    Fair Bagel, you do seem to be the lone straight shooter in the group.
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  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 20,703 Guardian
    Ace_03 wrote: »

    That could very well be, the question also is, why would they refuse to compensate? Maybe it's an image thing, they don't want to look weak in front of us and admit they we're at fault. But that is like a child holding the jar of cookies in their hand, broken.

    People are very unpredictable in the general case, and there are a million possible reasons why anyone does anything, but I can hypothesize. It is possible that the data Kabam had suggested that the problems experienced were so randomly dispersed and so wildly different in impact for different players that there was no possible way to address them with a targeted compensation solution, which is their preferred choice. With that off the table, the question became what, if anything, should be done. "Nothing" is a possibility: when no remedy actually works as compensation, sometimes nothing is the correct thing to do. But another possibility was to offer some moderate value compensation package to everyone, and simply call it a day. That would almost certainly be seen as inadequate by many players, especially those impacted by a higher amount or in avenues of the game other than the ones the compensation package might assist with. And then SA comes along and within it something new that a content developer created. A choose your own gift package that would allow a player to pick which area of the game they would want the most benefit from during the summoner appreciation week. And then someone gets the bright idea to say, hey, that's a good idea for 19.x compensation: make a package that players can choose the contents of, so they will autotune compensation to the parts of the game they were most affected by. And since the thing has already been created, let's just use that. And while that decision is made, absolutely no thought or time is spent changing the content announcement to account for that.

    I'm not saying this happened, and I have no inside knowledge about that. I am also not saying I would do this. Definitely not: I would have warned against this. All I'm saying is that it is possible for human beings to make decisions like this: they do so every day. Globally, these are dumb decisions taken together. But individually, they are exactly what many people do just before they step off a cliff while trying to get a good selfie. Sometimes people are motivated by bad intentions. But sometimes people are just people, doing catastrophically bad things because they simply don't realize the full consequences of their actions. It is what gives NTSB investigators job security.
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  • ThatweirdguyThatweirdguy Member Posts: 675 ★★★
    Ace_03 wrote: »

    Excellent point.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 20,703 Guardian
    More players in south east Asia then all of America combined.

    The data I've seen suggests that more than half of the players are from North America (Canada, US, Mexico) and Europe, and the majority of the revenue comes specifically from the US.
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