**Mastery Loadouts**
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Upcoming Changes to Mystic Dispersion and Dexterity - Discussion Thread
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The beta itself was flawed from the get-go. A lot of players who were chosen/invited (myself included) could not participate because it didn’t work properly. Forgive me if I can’t accept the results of a broken beta as your justification for not sending out RDT’s for yet another significant change.
They are.....
While I’m always against the issuance of RDTs, this is a significant change. While champs specifically were not changed, a lot of mystic champs were solely ranked due to their defensive power combined with MD. I mean would you really rsnkn5* Jugg to R4+ for offense? Kabam also said in multiple instances that MD and its relationship with dexterity was working as intended and they had no plans to change it. I personally don’t have a dog in this race but I can understand people wanting recompense for this.
Providing he manage to refresh his fury which wun fuel up mystic dispersion..because his fury is did not expire or nulified..
Unless his fury did really expire from the full duration..correct me if im wrong...
refund how?????
refund you for what?????
nothing was spent, there is nothing to refund......
The fundamental use for Tickets is changes to how the Champs themsleves are intended to perform. Nothing about the Champs is tied into MD. Meaning, take it away and the Champs work the same as they always have. It's an enhancement. One that's been way too overpowered. The Meta has changed, and it's now time to change it along with it. People may have Ranked for that relationship, but it's also served until now. The change is to the Mastery, not the Champs. As was stated, Ranking needs to be done with the awareness that it's a final decision, and what works now may not work the same down the road. The game is constantly evolving and changing.
If this was a direct change to the Champs themsleves, in a way that was significant and altered their fundamental functioning, I would have less of an argument. The fact is, nothing about the Champs themsleves is being changed, and it's been requested since before they even decided to finalize. Ranking isn't something that's done with the idea that you'll be able to go back. Fundamentally, I do not agree that they're warranted because literally no change to Champs is being made. Not even an exploit fix.
They answered that. You will get loyalty for those.
It's really not that dramatic or sudden. MD has been the same for years. The game has changed in that time.
Let's slow down here and be honest about what we're talking about.
If you use a 5-star Awakening Gem on a character and that character is superseded by a subsequent character release, a la Blade, then hey. That happens. My 3-star OG Iron Man was really tough to beat when he armored up...three years ago.
But it's very different when you pop a resource as rare as 5-star Awakening Gems onto a character because of how the characters interact, and it is simply ludicrous for someone to say that how Masteries function aren't part of that decision making -- it is simply nonsensical for a person to know that Masteries have value because they are either "purchased" or gifted, etc., but something even more rare that adds functionality to a character isn't the same.
Again: I don't have a dog in this fight. But at some point, we all have to be able to use common sense, find the commonality between company and customer, and acknowledge that yes, the company has rights, but that doesn't mean the customer has none, and vice versa.
You cannot treat resources like a 5-star Awakening Gem the same as a T3CC that you can grind for in the Daily Arena. They are not the same.
It will not break the game to try to come together about this and give the company and the most affected individuals some of what each wants instead of one side getting everything they want.
In every significant change, there has to be a standard of fairness and trust between customer and consumer. If the one side is fair, the other will have trust.
Was Mystic Dispersion broken? Yes.
Did people rank up characters because of how Mystic Dispersion worked? Yes.
Both of those statements are true. It's not one or the other. It's both.
The allocation of rare resources in this game isn't something that any of us take lightly -- these are grueling choices. We see people asking who to rank up EVERY SINGLE DAY.
Every single person posting here knows that there's a line here that can be drawn:
1. If you never unlocked and had no points in Mystic Dispersion, then you get nothing.
2. If you unlocked it but weren't using it, you get the unlocking resources back.
3. If you were using it as recently as yesterday, then there should be a discussion about what can be done to try to meet in the middle on something -- because if you awakened and took a character to R5, that matters a whole hell of a lot more. Maybe those people can't get everything back, but come on -- something could be done for these people.
This is a matter of effort and problem-solving. It doesn't have to be winners and losers.
A lot of guys in my Alliance are in the same situation.
Great job showing how both sides of the argument are valid
For the time and energy to run it? Would have thought that was pretty obvious, good attempt to try and be a smartass though.
I did recently rank up dorm with md being a significant factor in that decision. It would be nice to have kabam acknowledge that they would be willing to do something to compensate me for those wasted resources. But honestly the fact that they don't is not surprising.
This game is going to end prematurely because of stuff like this -- there has to be more of an effort by both sides to understand what the other wants to do, needs to do, and does as a function of provider and player.
I can think of probably 6-10 ways to solve this problem for the most affected users that will make sense -- it's not that hard.
It would be really helpful if company and community took a deep breath once in a while and understood that every single time that someone demands a win, the other side loses. You cannot operate this way.
Common sense says that the people who are most affected need to be able to not lose. They may not totally win, because MD is going to change.
But they do not have to lose every single rare resource they invested.
IT DOES NOT HAVE TO HAPPEN.
1. If you placed an R4 or R5 Mystic defender during the last season of Alliance War AND you had points active in Mystic Dispersion, you are eligible for one Rank Down Ticket for the character that was placed. Period. That ticket gives you the Cats, not the gold. You are only eligible for one ticket. Period.
2. If you awakened a mystic character that you placed on defense with a gem, then you have the choice of taking EITHER the Awakening Gem OR the rank down ticket. Not both. Because you used the character.
3. If you use the rank down ticket, you forfeit the next opportunity to get another Rank Down Ticket, if there is another opportunity. No gifts for Christmas, etc.
See?
This stuff can be discussed and done.
How long is this “watching period going to last for?”
I was wondering: how will the players who bought mastery cores with both loyalty and units will be refunded?
Will you be able to extract that respective data? I.e. 'X' amount of cores were bought with units and 'X' amount of cores were bought with loyalty.
Apologies if this has been answered but i searched through and could not find a clear answer.
It isn't a matter of whether these Mystic champions are still effective or not (or the Champions we invested in to beat them) but for many of us we want to leverage every advantage that we can in order to progress in the game. We invest a lot into the game based on all of the variables. And these variables are intertwined.
In these situations, it seems that Kabam should throw the rule book out and not run sober calculations to consider what is "fair". Kabam should be generous with the community and provide compelling compensation because It nearly impossible to measure how much we really put into building our teams. Additionally, it will create good will that will carry into further investment into the game.
It was earned and used to add points to MD. If they are taken away and not comped then you will have to buy them again with loyalty/units if you want to max out MD again after the change. The devs have probably overlooked this but it definitely needs to be looked into.
At least one 4 star and one 5 star one.
Thanks
No one, or at least certainly not Kabam, is disputing either statement. The problem is there seems to be a sense among some players that acknowledging the second statement to be true automatically comes with additional consequences that are not automatically true.
You mention compromise, but that isn't really literally possible here. If (some of) the players want something the company doesn't feel it is appropriate to give, compromise is not to give half. The developers' position in that situation is still ignored completely.
One literal compromise would be the players get back their rank up resources, and the game operator takes back all rewards earned with the ranked up champions. I'm pretty sure no one wants that. What they want is the right to rank up champions and get all the benefits of the rank up, *then* take those resources and put them into another champion and get all the benefits of that rank up, and to continue to do that every time the game changes. Very, very, very few games I can think of allow that.
I think there is some room for discussion, and even some limited-context compromises to how changes like this get rolled out. For example, I've played MMOs where if something significant was changed in the game, anyone who made game change decisions affected by that change within a very narrow window - say within 30 days of the change - received either compensation or roll-back options. However, the problem with that option is there was always a ton of screaming about if it could be 30, why not 31, why not 101, why not everyone. Even when the relationship between playerbase and developer is pretty good, the mere act of drawing a line like that created constant problems.
The game team should really consider at least one mystic RDT. I would never have R4'd my 5* star Dorm, used an awakening gem and a bunch of stones if I had known this was going to happen. I do not think giving a Mystic RDT will break the game. It is just the right thing to do. You guys make rank up materials so hard to get that wasting them by no fault of your own is really unfair. Please reconsider this. This is one of those very rare situations where a RDT is appropriate.