abn86 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » Consistency within the Event, absolutely. 6 days of fighting a 3* with a 3* that leads up to a 6* 30k Champ? One that isn't even disclosed until after you enter and use the Tickets? You can absolutely expect some form of consistency because the alternative is an ambush. This isn't correct though. The uncanny rooms are entirely separate and as @TitoBandito187 elegantly showed, they provided enough evidence to make this obvious. Outside of the visual evidence that it was apparent, there's also the hint that you could use your ENTIRE roster. It wouldn't strike you as odd that the previous 6 days you are forced into a specific class of 3* (outside of Sunday) and before you get into fight Emma, you can choose ANY champ off your roster? r2 6* for a 6k PI 3* boss? C'mon man. This was evident. Now, if I was forced to fight Emma with a 3* and I had to slog it with 3* Mags? Well, that I would agree that it needs to be looked at because that would be a pita fight. It's the hardest possible difficulty of a side quest of another side quest. As far as I'm concerned, uncollected/epic represents a more strategic difficulty than anything else. There's very few events (GP notwithstanding) that have been "easy". They often require a bit of strategy. IMO, having Emma as a boss embodies that. Again, no crazy nodes, just power gain. But, as far as I'm concerned, the power gain is just to force her to telepath mode. To me, this is a boon to anyone struggling against Emma in uncollected or hasn't yet fought her. You can use today to practice against her with far less of an energy requirement.
GroundedWisdom wrote: » Consistency within the Event, absolutely. 6 days of fighting a 3* with a 3* that leads up to a 6* 30k Champ? One that isn't even disclosed until after you enter and use the Tickets? You can absolutely expect some form of consistency because the alternative is an ambush.
GroundedWisdom wrote: » abn86 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » Consistency within the Event, absolutely. 6 days of fighting a 3* with a 3* that leads up to a 6* 30k Champ? One that isn't even disclosed until after you enter and use the Tickets? You can absolutely expect some form of consistency because the alternative is an ambush. This isn't correct though. The uncanny rooms are entirely separate and as @TitoBandito187 elegantly showed, they provided enough evidence to make this obvious. Outside of the visual evidence that it was apparent, there's also the hint that you could use your ENTIRE roster. It wouldn't strike you as odd that the previous 6 days you are forced into a specific class of 3* (outside of Sunday) and before you get into fight Emma, you can choose ANY champ off your roster? r2 6* for a 6k PI 3* boss? C'mon man. This was evident. Now, if I was forced to fight Emma with a 3* and I had to slog it with 3* Mags? Well, that I would agree that it needs to be looked at because that would be a pita fight. It's the hardest possible difficulty of a side quest of another side quest. As far as I'm concerned, uncollected/epic represents a more strategic difficulty than anything else. There's very few events (GP notwithstanding) that have been "easy". They often require a bit of strategy. IMO, having Emma as a boss embodies that. Again, no crazy nodes, just power gain. But, as far as I'm concerned, the power gain is just to force her to telepath mode. To me, this is a boon to anyone struggling against Emma in uncollected or hasn't yet fought her. You can use today to practice against her with far less of an energy requirement. If they were entirely separate, you wouldn't be acquiring Tickets from the Danger Rooms.
abn86 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » abn86 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » Consistency within the Event, absolutely. 6 days of fighting a 3* with a 3* that leads up to a 6* 30k Champ? One that isn't even disclosed until after you enter and use the Tickets? You can absolutely expect some form of consistency because the alternative is an ambush. This isn't correct though. The uncanny rooms are entirely separate and as @TitoBandito187 elegantly showed, they provided enough evidence to make this obvious. Outside of the visual evidence that it was apparent, there's also the hint that you could use your ENTIRE roster. It wouldn't strike you as odd that the previous 6 days you are forced into a specific class of 3* (outside of Sunday) and before you get into fight Emma, you can choose ANY champ off your roster? r2 6* for a 6k PI 3* boss? C'mon man. This was evident. Now, if I was forced to fight Emma with a 3* and I had to slog it with 3* Mags? Well, that I would agree that it needs to be looked at because that would be a pita fight. It's the hardest possible difficulty of a side quest of another side quest. As far as I'm concerned, uncollected/epic represents a more strategic difficulty than anything else. There's very few events (GP notwithstanding) that have been "easy". They often require a bit of strategy. IMO, having Emma as a boss embodies that. Again, no crazy nodes, just power gain. But, as far as I'm concerned, the power gain is just to force her to telepath mode. To me, this is a boon to anyone struggling against Emma in uncollected or hasn't yet fought her. You can use today to practice against her with far less of an energy requirement. If they were entirely separate, you wouldn't be acquiring Tickets from the Danger Rooms. Separate as in the uncanny rooms are to the far left. As in, in a separate location than the other danger rooms. Separate as in, a separate room from the currently running danger room with Magneto as boss. NOT separate as in unrelated. Did you really quote me to just try and needle me over my second sentence? Hopefully it's obvious what I meant by "separate" now.
GroundedWisdom wrote: » abn86 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » abn86 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » Consistency within the Event, absolutely. 6 days of fighting a 3* with a 3* that leads up to a 6* 30k Champ? One that isn't even disclosed until after you enter and use the Tickets? You can absolutely expect some form of consistency because the alternative is an ambush. This isn't correct though. The uncanny rooms are entirely separate and as @TitoBandito187 elegantly showed, they provided enough evidence to make this obvious. Outside of the visual evidence that it was apparent, there's also the hint that you could use your ENTIRE roster. It wouldn't strike you as odd that the previous 6 days you are forced into a specific class of 3* (outside of Sunday) and before you get into fight Emma, you can choose ANY champ off your roster? r2 6* for a 6k PI 3* boss? C'mon man. This was evident. Now, if I was forced to fight Emma with a 3* and I had to slog it with 3* Mags? Well, that I would agree that it needs to be looked at because that would be a pita fight. It's the hardest possible difficulty of a side quest of another side quest. As far as I'm concerned, uncollected/epic represents a more strategic difficulty than anything else. There's very few events (GP notwithstanding) that have been "easy". They often require a bit of strategy. IMO, having Emma as a boss embodies that. Again, no crazy nodes, just power gain. But, as far as I'm concerned, the power gain is just to force her to telepath mode. To me, this is a boon to anyone struggling against Emma in uncollected or hasn't yet fought her. You can use today to practice against her with far less of an energy requirement. If they were entirely separate, you wouldn't be acquiring Tickets from the Danger Rooms. Separate as in the uncanny rooms are to the far left. As in, in a separate location than the other danger rooms. Separate as in, a separate room from the currently running danger room with Magneto as boss. NOT separate as in unrelated. Did you really quote me to just try and needle me over my second sentence? Hopefully it's obvious what I meant by "separate" now. Master and Epic are "separate" from the first 3. It's still the same Event.
abn86 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » abn86 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » abn86 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » Consistency within the Event, absolutely. 6 days of fighting a 3* with a 3* that leads up to a 6* 30k Champ? One that isn't even disclosed until after you enter and use the Tickets? You can absolutely expect some form of consistency because the alternative is an ambush. This isn't correct though. The uncanny rooms are entirely separate and as @TitoBandito187 elegantly showed, they provided enough evidence to make this obvious. Outside of the visual evidence that it was apparent, there's also the hint that you could use your ENTIRE roster. It wouldn't strike you as odd that the previous 6 days you are forced into a specific class of 3* (outside of Sunday) and before you get into fight Emma, you can choose ANY champ off your roster? r2 6* for a 6k PI 3* boss? C'mon man. This was evident. Now, if I was forced to fight Emma with a 3* and I had to slog it with 3* Mags? Well, that I would agree that it needs to be looked at because that would be a pita fight. It's the hardest possible difficulty of a side quest of another side quest. As far as I'm concerned, uncollected/epic represents a more strategic difficulty than anything else. There's very few events (GP notwithstanding) that have been "easy". They often require a bit of strategy. IMO, having Emma as a boss embodies that. Again, no crazy nodes, just power gain. But, as far as I'm concerned, the power gain is just to force her to telepath mode. To me, this is a boon to anyone struggling against Emma in uncollected or hasn't yet fought her. You can use today to practice against her with far less of an energy requirement. If they were entirely separate, you wouldn't be acquiring Tickets from the Danger Rooms. Separate as in the uncanny rooms are to the far left. As in, in a separate location than the other danger rooms. Separate as in, a separate room from the currently running danger room with Magneto as boss. NOT separate as in unrelated. Did you really quote me to just try and needle me over my second sentence? Hopefully it's obvious what I meant by "separate" now. Master and Epic are "separate" from the first 3. It's still the same Event. Ah, gotcha. It's as though separate has more than one meaning. Doesn't invalidate what I said. I just read some other comment you put in another thread earlier - where you admitted YOU were caught off guard and you wouldn't run it again. That's the truth. But instead of advocating that they post PIs or be transparent (in this case) why not just start a thread asking others what tips they can offer? Why can't you ask if the boss is going to rotate out so you can use the tickets you feel will otherwise be "wasted". And just to clarify, I don't find the tickets to be a big deal like you made it out to be a few pages back. The tickets were supplemental to the rewards that you (or any other summoner who was equally surprised by the difficulty) acquired through the week. So, even if you couldn't use them for any additional rewards on the 7th day, you would still get the extra rewards acquired throughout the week from beating each day's boss. I'm not going to continue going back and forth. Your initial argument on this thread was about the difficulty. Whether or not you disagree with my meaning of separate doesn't have anything to do with the difficulty level. I (and several others) have contended that the difficulty level was fairly obvious using context clues. However, I will agree with you that they should make a change. Moving forward, I'd like it if they added the disclaimer: "Epic/Uncollected is meant for players with diverse and developed rosters and, as such, may be uneven in difficulty from chapter to chapter or month to month and may result in a frustrating experience for smaller rosters and/or inexperienced players." As someone who doesn't sell champs and has played for 3+ years, danger rooms are great. I HAD to rank up my 2* and 3* to get thru content back in the day so this isn't a difficult challenge for me. Playing Emma in uncollected already gave me a bit of practice against her, and now that EQ has been out for a while there's been tips galore about fighting her. My whole point is countering your idea that this was somehow a difficulty spike. It WASN'T. Anyone who plays the epic/uncollected content should already be aware of the difficulty - unless they were negatively influenced by the difficulty of the GP event because they were newly uncollected. You can plainly see your boss before you enter. You can choose any star level of any champ you want. The team rating was 30k.
V1PER1987 wrote: » So I reran epic and got the rewards again. I reran heroic but I didn’t get those rewards again. Is this intended?
GroundedWisdom wrote: » V1PER1987 wrote: » So I reran epic and got the rewards again. I reran heroic but I didn’t get those rewards again. Is this intended? Might have something to do with when they applied the fix.
V1PER1987 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » V1PER1987 wrote: » So I reran epic and got the rewards again. I reran heroic but I didn’t get those rewards again. Is this intended? Might have something to do with when they applied the fix. I wasn’t affected by the first buff. Things have been working for me unless the fix just broke it lol.
GroundedWisdom wrote: » V1PER1987 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » V1PER1987 wrote: » So I reran epic and got the rewards again. I reran heroic but I didn’t get those rewards again. Is this intended? Might have something to do with when they applied the fix. I wasn’t affected by the first buff. Things have been working for me unless the fix just broke it lol. My guess is do as you would and they'll sort it out later. Lol.
DNA3000 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » abn86 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » Consistency within the Event, absolutely. 6 days of fighting a 3* with a 3* that leads up to a 6* 30k Champ? One that isn't even disclosed until after you enter and use the Tickets? You can absolutely expect some form of consistency because the alternative is an ambush. This isn't correct though. The uncanny rooms are entirely separate and as @TitoBandito187 elegantly showed, they provided enough evidence to make this obvious. Outside of the visual evidence that it was apparent, there's also the hint that you could use your ENTIRE roster. It wouldn't strike you as odd that the previous 6 days you are forced into a specific class of 3* (outside of Sunday) and before you get into fight Emma, you can choose ANY champ off your roster? r2 6* for a 6k PI 3* boss? C'mon man. This was evident. Now, if I was forced to fight Emma with a 3* and I had to slog it with 3* Mags? Well, that I would agree that it needs to be looked at because that would be a pita fight. It's the hardest possible difficulty of a side quest of another side quest. As far as I'm concerned, uncollected/epic represents a more strategic difficulty than anything else. There's very few events (GP notwithstanding) that have been "easy". They often require a bit of strategy. IMO, having Emma as a boss embodies that. Again, no crazy nodes, just power gain. But, as far as I'm concerned, the power gain is just to force her to telepath mode. To me, this is a boon to anyone struggling against Emma in uncollected or hasn't yet fought her. You can use today to practice against her with far less of an energy requirement. If they were entirely separate, you wouldn't be acquiring Tickets from the Danger Rooms. That's not true. We earned entrance currency for Dimensional Rifts and Chaos Rifts from doing the normal monthly content and alliance events, but the Rifts themselves were entirely separate content from the monthly event and the alliance events.
GroundedWisdom wrote: » abn86 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » abn86 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » abn86 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » Consistency within the Event, absolutely. 6 days of fighting a 3* with a 3* that leads up to a 6* 30k Champ? One that isn't even disclosed until after you enter and use the Tickets? You can absolutely expect some form of consistency because the alternative is an ambush. This isn't correct though. The uncanny rooms are entirely separate and as @TitoBandito187 elegantly showed, they provided enough evidence to make this obvious. Outside of the visual evidence that it was apparent, there's also the hint that you could use your ENTIRE roster. It wouldn't strike you as odd that the previous 6 days you are forced into a specific class of 3* (outside of Sunday) and before you get into fight Emma, you can choose ANY champ off your roster? r2 6* for a 6k PI 3* boss? C'mon man. This was evident. Now, if I was forced to fight Emma with a 3* and I had to slog it with 3* Mags? Well, that I would agree that it needs to be looked at because that would be a pita fight. It's the hardest possible difficulty of a side quest of another side quest. As far as I'm concerned, uncollected/epic represents a more strategic difficulty than anything else. There's very few events (GP notwithstanding) that have been "easy". They often require a bit of strategy. IMO, having Emma as a boss embodies that. Again, no crazy nodes, just power gain. But, as far as I'm concerned, the power gain is just to force her to telepath mode. To me, this is a boon to anyone struggling against Emma in uncollected or hasn't yet fought her. You can use today to practice against her with far less of an energy requirement. If they were entirely separate, you wouldn't be acquiring Tickets from the Danger Rooms. Separate as in the uncanny rooms are to the far left. As in, in a separate location than the other danger rooms. Separate as in, a separate room from the currently running danger room with Magneto as boss. NOT separate as in unrelated. Did you really quote me to just try and needle me over my second sentence? Hopefully it's obvious what I meant by "separate" now. Master and Epic are "separate" from the first 3. It's still the same Event. Ah, gotcha. It's as though separate has more than one meaning. Doesn't invalidate what I said. I just read some other comment you put in another thread earlier - where you admitted YOU were caught off guard and you wouldn't run it again. That's the truth. But instead of advocating that they post PIs or be transparent (in this case) why not just start a thread asking others what tips they can offer? Why can't you ask if the boss is going to rotate out so you can use the tickets you feel will otherwise be "wasted". And just to clarify, I don't find the tickets to be a big deal like you made it out to be a few pages back. The tickets were supplemental to the rewards that you (or any other summoner who was equally surprised by the difficulty) acquired through the week. So, even if you couldn't use them for any additional rewards on the 7th day, you would still get the extra rewards acquired throughout the week from beating each day's boss. I'm not going to continue going back and forth. Your initial argument on this thread was about the difficulty. Whether or not you disagree with my meaning of separate doesn't have anything to do with the difficulty level. I (and several others) have contended that the difficulty level was fairly obvious using context clues. However, I will agree with you that they should make a change. Moving forward, I'd like it if they added the disclaimer: "Epic/Uncollected is meant for players with diverse and developed rosters and, as such, may be uneven in difficulty from chapter to chapter or month to month and may result in a frustrating experience for smaller rosters and/or inexperienced players." As someone who doesn't sell champs and has played for 3+ years, danger rooms are great. I HAD to rank up my 2* and 3* to get thru content back in the day so this isn't a difficult challenge for me. Playing Emma in uncollected already gave me a bit of practice against her, and now that EQ has been out for a while there's been tips galore about fighting her. My whole point is countering your idea that this was somehow a difficulty spike. It WASN'T. Anyone who plays the epic/uncollected content should already be aware of the difficulty - unless they were negatively influenced by the difficulty of the GP event because they were newly uncollected. You can plainly see your boss before you enter. You can choose any star level of any champ you want. The team rating was 30k. Pretty sure most of us stopped paying attention to Suggested Ratings long ago. RE: ROL. Yes. I personally was caught off guard. I beat it. That's not the point of what I'm saying. There was no indication at all that it would be a 6* 30k Champ. All people have to go on is anyone vs. 2*, 2* vs. 3*, 3* vs. 3*. The moment you enter, you use your Tickets. That's not inconsequential. That's an Entry. There's no option to prepare first, and you're left with the choice of pushing through, or losing the Entry. It is not consistent with the rest of the Event. It WAS a difficulty spike in terms of the Event. Posting for tips isn't a solution to the problem I'm displaying, and the majority of people aren't going to run to the Forum before going in. Let's be honest. They see it and they go in. All we have to go on is the previous Fights that earned the Tickets, which are VASTLY different in difficulty. I've done every day this week. Not the same at all. Not even in scale. So what you have is no consistency. A 10k Opponent with 3*s would have been more in tandem than a 6* that does massive Block Damage. Irregardless, my issue is the consistency. All week, people have been doing Epic with a specific requirement in mind, and Uncanny jumped 10 steps. If there was some sort of indication, Team Rating is not an indication in my mind, then people could have gauged for themsleves whether they want to attempt it or not. Rather than a surprise of a 30K Boss. It's not consistent for the Event. It's not even of the same nature, using lower Rarities. It's off.
IsItthough wrote: » @Kabam Miike a question regarding the uncanny passes, if we don’t use all of them this week will they also reset? So if we choose not to fight Emma 4 times and still have 9 passes will those passes be good for next week uncanny room or will they reset back to zero?
Spurgeo14 wrote: » This still doesn't work. I reran Master AFTER Kabam said this was fixed and still didn't get any rewards...thanks a lot for telling us this was fixed when it's not.
DNA3000 wrote: » Spurgeo14 wrote: » This still doesn't work. I reran Master AFTER Kabam said this was fixed and still didn't get any rewards...thanks a lot for telling us this was fixed when it's not. My understanding is that if your first run was before the fix, the fix won't work on you. Instead, Kabam will datamine all players that were locked prior to the fix and manually grant the rewards you should have gotten for successive completions some time in the future.
GroundedWisdom wrote: » DNA3000 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » abn86 wrote: » GroundedWisdom wrote: » Consistency within the Event, absolutely. 6 days of fighting a 3* with a 3* that leads up to a 6* 30k Champ? One that isn't even disclosed until after you enter and use the Tickets? You can absolutely expect some form of consistency because the alternative is an ambush. This isn't correct though. The uncanny rooms are entirely separate and as @TitoBandito187 elegantly showed, they provided enough evidence to make this obvious. Outside of the visual evidence that it was apparent, there's also the hint that you could use your ENTIRE roster. It wouldn't strike you as odd that the previous 6 days you are forced into a specific class of 3* (outside of Sunday) and before you get into fight Emma, you can choose ANY champ off your roster? r2 6* for a 6k PI 3* boss? C'mon man. This was evident. Now, if I was forced to fight Emma with a 3* and I had to slog it with 3* Mags? Well, that I would agree that it needs to be looked at because that would be a pita fight. It's the hardest possible difficulty of a side quest of another side quest. As far as I'm concerned, uncollected/epic represents a more strategic difficulty than anything else. There's very few events (GP notwithstanding) that have been "easy". They often require a bit of strategy. IMO, having Emma as a boss embodies that. Again, no crazy nodes, just power gain. But, as far as I'm concerned, the power gain is just to force her to telepath mode. To me, this is a boon to anyone struggling against Emma in uncollected or hasn't yet fought her. You can use today to practice against her with far less of an energy requirement. If they were entirely separate, you wouldn't be acquiring Tickets from the Danger Rooms. That's not true. We earned entrance currency for Dimensional Rifts and Chaos Rifts from doing the normal monthly content and alliance events, but the Rifts themselves were entirely separate content from the monthly event and the alliance events. Except for the fact that we're discussing it in the Thread for the Event that includes Uncanny Danger Rooms. It's all one Event. Let's be real here.
