Venom is the star. Carnage is very average...

Venom has become a great champ now and has alot of utility. Unlike carnage... carnage still needs alot of time to get enough buffs to make him worth your time and by then most fights r already over... please buff carnage one more time in this beta. There is still alot of time. We can still test him so he isnt overpowered. Because right now i dont feel like ranking up my carnage at all and i am pretty sure this is not an unpopular opinion.

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RoyalMarshall

Carnage with max Despair (reducing healing by 15% for each debuff.)

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Carnage gameplay looks alot stronger than venom... This reminds me of proxima and Corvus discussion..... Who would have see Corvus being AW new attack king over LOL queen? I would not underestimate carnage at this point...

Pbishop

They missed on key thing on Carnage they won’t let him carry his buffs that you stack up from fight to fight like sabertooth they made him better but not USEABLE in the endgame content

Kpatrix

Pbishop wrote: »

They missed on key thing on Carnage they won’t let him carry his buffs that you stack up from fight to fight like sabertooth they made him better but not USEABLE in the endgame content

Totally agree on this. It takes a while to get his mutations set up and get the one you want, i.e. fury instead of parrying an attack as timer expires giving him block pro buff. I still think Carnage can be really good, maybe add a chance to bleed on crits or something to get him going faster, plus persistent charges that may cap at 5 or so as they carry over but still allow them to stack infinitely during a fight

klobberintyme

Razer_Boltz619 wrote: »

Venom has become a great champ now and has alot of utility. Unlike carnage... carnage still needs alot of time to get enough buffs to make him worth your time and by then most fights r already over... please buff carnage one more time in this beta. There is still alot of time. We can still test him so he isnt overpowered. Because right now i dont feel like ranking up my carnage at all and i am pretty sure this is not an unpopular opinion.

Venom plateaus quickly, which makes him very useful in more gameplay opportunities. Carnage is fun for slapping around the ROL WSes of the game, but it's true you really don't get the rewards of his buff in a short fight.
So far tho venom reads better than his actual gameplay. I find myself having to pause the game just to confirm all the **** going on with the buffs. Both more fun to play with tho, and still testing the synergies.

StinkyPinky

Venom nor carnage are changed! It’s a beta I could be completely differen by the end of it!

StinkyPinky

If you are in the beta youre voicing your disappointment to the wrong people.

StinkyPinky

You guys in the beta have the power to sway kabams decision on where to take these champs abilities.

Pbishop

I can’t even get on the beta to voice my opinion on my favorite champ carnage because they made a beta where only a few ppl can access it

@Kabam Zibiit

DBDLC666

Carnage still needs an attack buff & an armor buff to make him useful in endgame content. Heavy attack could be a touch faster as well. Alot more fun to play, tho.

Pbishop

Or let him carry his buffs from fight to fight

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V3N0M0U5_JU57IC3

@Pbishop Venom is also someone who makes sense of having that ability. He doesnt lose the powers he obtains.

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V3N0M0U5_JU57IC3

For real, act 6? Where did u get that from? Sounds interesting..

Doovious

Venom is great now in the beta, i love his sp3 now!!!
Id say just make his sp1 unblockable kinda like iron man infinity wars sp1 is and hed be perfect

but i love his bleed consistency on attacks and his heavy armor break attacks

Six_strings6

I’d like to know if you consider void to be an amazing champ. Both have similar ramp up time to reach their full potential and are both monsters once they reach this state. Not every champion has to have max damage within 10 seconds otherwise the game would be boring

MagnusKane

Venom is great. In beta he is finally the Beast he shoukd be. Carnage is better but I agree that Venom is the Star. Carnage needs a little more tweeking in my opinion.

Markjv81

Can anyone give insight into how venom's s2 interacts with mystic dispersion?

Whododo872

Markjv81 wrote: »

Can anyone give insight into how venom's s2 interacts with mystic dispersion?

Poorly. Don’t bring venom against MD. Lotta power gain really quickly

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Markjv81

So 2 conflicting answers.

Cuteshelf

Six_strings6 wrote: »

I’d like to know if you consider void to be an amazing champ. Both have similar ramp up time to reach their full potential and are both monsters once they reach this state. Not every champion has to have max damage within 10 seconds otherwise the game would be boring

Void has utility. Reversing healing, reducing power gain/evasion/dexterity etc. he’s also a good defender due to the way his debuffs work.

Carnage has only got decent damage going for him (in beta). He will still be a poor defender, as his specials are easy to evade. He also relies on heavy/L3 to get bleeds happening.

Carnage needs some utility to bring him in line with other damage dealers like spark.

Please Kabam. He’s been useless for over a year. Don’t just make him good in LoL length fights. We want to use him.

Werewrym

Markjv81 wrote: »

So 2 conflicting answers.

I believe the way it will interact with MD will be as follows.

Upon activation of sp2 buffs are converted to fury, these conversions do not feed MD. However, upon expiration of the fury buffs, MD will get a huge boost as 8 buffs are expiring (different than converting) all at once.

Alex_sc11

Cuteshelf wrote: »

Six_strings6 wrote: »

I’d like to know if you consider void to be an amazing champ. Both have similar ramp up time to reach their full potential and are both monsters once they reach this state. Not every champion has to have max damage within 10 seconds otherwise the game would be boring

Void has utility. Reversing healing, reducing power gain/evasion/dexterity etc. he’s also a good defender due to the way his debuffs work.

Carnage has only got decent damage going for him (in beta). He will still be a poor defender, as his specials are easy to evade. He also relies on heavy/L3 to get bleeds happening.

Carnage needs some utility to bring him in line with other damage dealers like spark.

Please Kabam. He’s been useless for over a year. Don’t just make him good in LoL length fights. We want to use him.

Well Starlord is great for attack but not as a defender. Not every character should do well in both. Now imagine a Carnage in power reserve or power gain node , now that he has a lot of power gain, he can be bit tricky.

I would certainly like a bit more of utility on Carnage, but I think he is very very usable now.

Cuteshelf

Alex_sc11 wrote: »

Cuteshelf wrote: »

Six_strings6 wrote: »

I’d like to know if you consider void to be an amazing champ. Both have similar ramp up time to reach their full potential and are both monsters once they reach this state. Not every champion has to have max damage within 10 seconds otherwise the game would be boring

Void has utility. Reversing healing, reducing power gain/evasion/dexterity etc. he’s also a good defender due to the way his debuffs work.

Carnage has only got decent damage going for him (in beta). He will still be a poor defender, as his specials are easy to evade. He also relies on heavy/L3 to get bleeds happening.

Carnage needs some utility to bring him in line with other damage dealers like spark.

Please Kabam. He’s been useless for over a year. Don’t just make him good in LoL length fights. We want to use him.

Well Starlord is great for attack but not as a defender. Not every character should do well in both. Now imagine a Carnage in power reserve or power gain node , now that he has a lot of power gain, he can be bit tricky.

I would certainly like a bit more of utility on Carnage, but I think he is very very usable now.

I never said he HAD to be good on defense. I was just pointing out his short fallings VS other champs he’s being compared to.

I just want to use him. And as he is, there’s no reason to rank him over a whole bunch of other cosmic champs.

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Werewrym wrote: »

Markjv81 wrote: »

So 2 conflicting answers.

I believe the way it will interact with MD will be as follows.

Upon activation of sp2 buffs are converted to fury, these conversions do not feed MD. However, upon expiration of the fury buffs, MD will get a huge boost as 8 buffs are expiring (different than converting) all at once.

Agree with this. Still a fairly poor choice against mystic with MD though.

King_L0kiB34r

I don't know as long as the opponent can bleed carnage is pretty effective I took him through most of ROL and a few in LOL multiple times hitting 2k bleeds. rank4 and rank5 5*. Clearly not effective against non bleed champs but hey not every champ is made for every fight.

Namelez

600+ hits to kill LOL StarLord.... Very underwhelming imo

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