The symbiote is annoying. Unless you've got an all star line up of 5*+ high ranked champions, its very difficult to complete epic difficulty without using units. The rank 4 symbiote doesn't help enough to clear epic. It's frustrating because everything in this game favors the hardcore long term players and it takes years to go from 5 4* rank 5 heroes to 5 5* rank 5 heroes.
If you 100% beginner, normal, heroic, and master you still will be 1 klyntar katalyst short of getting rank 5. Ironically getting him to rank 5 would be the one thing that'd allow me to complete epic...
So the ones who get to rank 5 are mostly the guys that don't need him, what's even the point of having him?
For once, I would disagree slightly. I understand that Parts 1 and 2 are not the whole thing, but I have managed to 100% them on Epic using pre-owned potions and only using units for energy refills. Admittedly, I used Power-Ups, but never Greater ones. I only have 1 maxed 4* and have been using champs from among 6 4*s and 2 5*s in particular. Only two of the 4*s are duped and a third is the only other R5.
Having said this, I am now grinding through Hard and maybe Normal in order to be able to do Part 3 of Epic (no way I am gonna do Easy as well; II got a life).
However, I definitely agree that the whales and all-day/most-of-the-day-grinders have been the main customers for a while. I understand that this can happen in any game without trying to make it so, but creating content that is (for once) good only for the end-ggamers/grinders/whales is not something that just "happens".
The symbiote is annoying. Unless you've got an all star line up of 5*+ high ranked champions, its very difficult to complete epic difficulty without using units. The rank 4 symbiote doesn't help enough to clear epic. It's frustrating because everything in this game favors the hardcore long term players and it takes years to go from 5 4* rank 5 heroes to 5 5* rank 5 heroes.
If you 100% beginner, normal, heroic, and master you still will be 1 klyntar katalyst short of getting rank 5. Ironically getting him to rank 5 would be the one thing that'd allow me to complete epic...
So the ones who get to rank 5 are mostly the guys that don't need him, what's even the point of having him?
Actually an R4 sym will take you through epic. I just did it, it’s just a matter of using the right enhancements. The cheapest is using hardened coating and just blocking until an opening becomes avaialble. For the bosses, add a couple more. You can even throw in total carnage/vicious assault for path clearing to make it even easier. I only have one 5/50 and I was able to do one run through epic to R5 my sym.
Are enhancements more or less necessary to do Epic?
V1PER has a point...and Symbiote is (supposedly) supposed to be a challenge even for the best players (I presume this assumes they are not using enhancements and Power-ups).
I get the circle of death. When I look at a person, when I choose my matches, when I go into the fight, when I fight, when I end the fight, when I collect stuff from fight, when I go into next fight,
After beating epic with a r4 symbiod, I ranked mine up to r5 and he absolutely destroys the entire path and the gold sym boss, alone with following enhancements -
Fight Dirty - True Strike = No more evade - Very Useful
Unknown Enemy - Reduce AA = Can potentially stun/bleed and not take the 30 sec damage - Slightly useful
Hardened Coating - Reduce all damage when blocking = No damage taken at all as long as you know how to block - Very Useful
Just block and keep hitting (evade if you want to), there's no way you'll even lose 1 health point.
Great event. Keep original ideas like this coming. Only suggestion is to let the Symbiote become permanent, and a way to customize or make a character.
After beating epic with a r4 symbiod, I ranked mine up to r5 and he absolutely destroys the entire path and the gold sym boss, alone with following enhancements -
Fight Dirty - True Strike = No more evade - Very Useful
Unknown Enemy - Reduce AA = Can potentially stun/bleed and not take the 30 sec damage - Slightly useful
Hardened Coating - Reduce all damage when blocking = No damage taken at all as long as you know how to block - Very Useful
Just block and keep hitting (evade if you want to), there's no way you'll even lose 1 health point.
Will hard coating work against carnage on 2.2? Any idea how to beat abomination with counter tactic and mystic knowledge
Omg abomination on counter tactic with mystic knowledge node at sig 100 for r2 6* is complete overkill....i thought my SL can handle him but nope died by stacks of 4 poisons
Scale back his sig lvl....i swear you guys never test anything before release and you wonder why we are pissed all the time
After beating epic with a r4 symbiod, I ranked mine up to r5 and he absolutely destroys the entire path and the gold sym boss, alone with following enhancements -
Fight Dirty - True Strike = No more evade - Very Useful
Unknown Enemy - Reduce AA = Can potentially stun/bleed and not take the 30 sec damage - Slightly useful
Hardened Coating - Reduce all damage when blocking = No damage taken at all as long as you know how to block - Very Useful
Just block and keep hitting (evade if you want to), there's no way you'll even lose 1 health point.
Will hard coating work against carnage on 2.2? Any idea how to beat abomination with counter tactic and mystic knowledge
Yes, as long as you don't get hit. Let him hit your block until he does a heavy, then attack. I used cleanse as well for carnage to drain his power, since he has all or nothing.
Omg abomination on counter tactic with mystic knowledge node at sig 100 for r2 6* is complete overkill....i thought my SL can handle him but nope died by stacks of 4 poisons
Scale back his sig lvl....i swear you guys never test anything before release and you wonder why we are pissed all the time
Omg abomination on counter tactic with mystic knowledge node at sig 100 for r2 6* is complete overkill....i thought my SL can handle him but nope died by stacks of 4 poisons
Scale back his sig lvl....i swear you guys never test anything before release and you wonder why we are pissed all the time
Do you have a poison immune?
Dormammu.vision.hyperion.corvus till his 20 charges are out lol
After beating epic with a r4 symbiod, I ranked mine up to r5 and he absolutely destroys the entire path and the gold sym boss, alone with following enhancements -
Fight Dirty - True Strike = No more evade - Very Useful
Unknown Enemy - Reduce AA = Can potentially stun/bleed and not take the 30 sec damage - Slightly useful
Hardened Coating - Reduce all damage when blocking = No damage taken at all as long as you know how to block - Very Useful
Just block and keep hitting (evade if you want to), there's no way you'll even lose 1 health point.
Will hard coating work against carnage on 2.2? Any idea how to beat abomination with counter tactic and mystic knowledge
Yes, as long as you don't get hit. Let him hit your block until he does a heavy, then attack. I used cleanse as well for carnage to drain his power, since he has all or nothing.
I was thinking the same on cleanse also vicious assault could work too
After beating epic with a r4 symbiod, I ranked mine up to r5 and he absolutely destroys the entire path and the gold sym boss, alone with following enhancements -
Fight Dirty - True Strike = No more evade - Very Useful
Unknown Enemy - Reduce AA = Can potentially stun/bleed and not take the 30 sec damage - Slightly useful
Hardened Coating - Reduce all damage when blocking = No damage taken at all as long as you know how to block - Very Useful
Just block and keep hitting (evade if you want to), there's no way you'll even lose 1 health point.
Will hard coating work against carnage on 2.2? Any idea how to beat abomination with counter tactic and mystic knowledge
Yes, as long as you don't get hit. Let him hit your block until he does a heavy, then attack. I used cleanse as well for carnage to drain his power, since he has all or nothing.
I tried cleanse for Carnage, but the all or nothing carnage ended up firing of an sp2. what the fudge...
Finding that the boosts arent locked in for the duration of the fight. Fought Golden symbiod with second wind and recoup boost had buffs it timed out then dead.
Why are the Katalyst an odd number for ranking up? My next rank up is requires 15 (just looked I am Rank 4 of 5) I currently have 1. I have fully explored
Heroic and beat Master. If I fully explore Master I will have 11...if I finish beginner adds 1 for 12...then fully explore Normal that adds 2 for 14...so now I need to beat Epic to add 10 for a total of 24...Now I rank up now I have 9 remaining...if I fully explore Epic I will add 15 for 24 remaining. Why the odd amount?
After beating epic with a r4 symbiod, I ranked mine up to r5 and he absolutely destroys the entire path and the gold sym boss, alone with following enhancements -
Fight Dirty - True Strike = No more evade - Very Useful
Unknown Enemy - Reduce AA = Can potentially stun/bleed and not take the 30 sec damage - Slightly useful
Hardened Coating - Reduce all damage when blocking = No damage taken at all as long as you know how to block - Very Useful
Just block and keep hitting (evade if you want to), there's no way you'll even lose 1 health point.
Will hard coating work against carnage on 2.2? Any idea how to beat abomination with counter tactic and mystic knowledge
Yes, as long as you don't get hit. Let him hit your block until he does a heavy, then attack. I used cleanse as well for carnage to drain his power, since he has all or nothing.
I tried cleanse for Carnage, but the all or nothing carnage ended up firing of an sp2. what the fudge...
Finding that the boosts arent locked in for the duration of the fight. Fought Golden symbiod with second wind and recoup boost had buffs it timed out then dead.
Omg abomination on counter tactic with mystic knowledge node at sig 100 for r2 6* is complete overkill....i thought my SL can handle him but nope died by stacks of 4 poisons
Scale back his sig lvl....i swear you guys never test anything before release and you wonder why we are pissed all the time
Do you have a poison immune?
Dormammu.vision.hyperion.corvus till his 20 charges are out lol
Hyperion should be able to kill him quite fast. By the way, what does mystic knowledge do?
Omg abomination on counter tactic with mystic knowledge node at sig 100 for r2 6* is complete overkill....i thought my SL can handle him but nope died by stacks of 4 poisons
Scale back his sig lvl....i swear you guys never test anything before release and you wonder why we are pissed all the time
Do you have a poison immune?
Dormammu.vision.hyperion.corvus till his 20 charges are out lol
Hyperion should be able to kill him quite fast. By the way, what does mystic knowledge do?
Allows the mystic to have advantage over science champs
@TheSquish671 dont suppose you can help with masochism and if the sym can overcome it lol
Challenge accepted @IanMoone ! Lol anyway here's what boosts i think you could use:
1) Unknown enemy(if it even reduces node ability accuracy in the first place)
2) Hardened coating(fights may be long and this may help as long as there's no unavoidable damage)
To end fights faster:
3) In for the kill
4) Cut deep and Vicious Assault(launch sp2 only during timer before masochism reactivates)
5) Cauterise(needs accurate timing)
I've never tried these before though. The only time I've had to deal with masochism so far was in occult labs hard mode, so i just powered through the regen.
The SS is a monster with cut deep and total carnage boosts. Kabam wants to help the have nots get more equal to the haves.... I would suggest you just opened a door to allow those of us playing 4 years, rank 70, 400k level players that do not even have a 4 or 5 star Medusa, Blade, or AA a path to grow and continue to be able to compete with end gamers with this SS. Allow this monster a permanent home with us. He makes life in the higher content do-able with out us getting so frustrated we want to end the game totally.
After beating epic with a r4 symbiod, I ranked mine up to r5 and he absolutely destroys the entire path and the gold sym boss, alone with following enhancements -
Fight Dirty - True Strike = No more evade - Very Useful
Unknown Enemy - Reduce AA = Can potentially stun/bleed and not take the 30 sec damage - Slightly useful
Hardened Coating - Reduce all damage when blocking = No damage taken at all as long as you know how to block - Very Useful
Just block and keep hitting (evade if you want to), there's no way you'll even lose 1 health point.
Will hard coating work against carnage on 2.2? Any idea how to beat abomination with counter tactic and mystic knowledge
@IanMoone
I don't think so, I have not tried SS in fights that have unavoidable damage like poison, degen.
I used a 4/55 Hyperion but I realize not everyone has that. I'd say a 5/50 hyp should do good as well or in general any poison immune.
Comments
Event quests. Not any of the permanent content.
For me it is slightly shorter, which was startling for me since I have been spending up to 5 minutes just loading the Champion menu.
For once, I would disagree slightly. I understand that Parts 1 and 2 are not the whole thing, but I have managed to 100% them on Epic using pre-owned potions and only using units for energy refills. Admittedly, I used Power-Ups, but never Greater ones. I only have 1 maxed 4* and have been using champs from among 6 4*s and 2 5*s in particular. Only two of the 4*s are duped and a third is the only other R5.
Having said this, I am now grinding through Hard and maybe Normal in order to be able to do Part 3 of Epic (no way I am gonna do Easy as well; II got a life).
However, I definitely agree that the whales and all-day/most-of-the-day-grinders have been the main customers for a while. I understand that this can happen in any game without trying to make it so, but creating content that is (for once) good only for the end-ggamers/grinders/whales is not something that just "happens".
Are enhancements more or less necessary to do Epic?
V1PER has a point...and Symbiote is (supposedly) supposed to be a challenge even for the best players (I presume this assumes they are not using enhancements and Power-ups).
Etc. etc. etc
Found a symbiod in war attack, not sure if a glitch allowed it or what
You're allowed. There's just a Global Node that makes him take 200% more Damage.
My r5 destroyed the epic gold symbioid in less than 30 seconds 6 times, so there's that. Use Unknown Enemy to counter the 30 second power drain.
Fight Dirty - True Strike = No more evade - Very Useful
Unknown Enemy - Reduce AA = Can potentially stun/bleed and not take the 30 sec damage - Slightly useful
Hardened Coating - Reduce all damage when blocking = No damage taken at all as long as you know how to block - Very Useful
Just block and keep hitting (evade if you want to), there's no way you'll even lose 1 health point.
Will hard coating work against carnage on 2.2? Any idea how to beat abomination with counter tactic and mystic knowledge
Scale back his sig lvl....i swear you guys never test anything before release and you wonder why we are pissed all the time
Yes, as long as you don't get hit. Let him hit your block until he does a heavy, then attack. I used cleanse as well for carnage to drain his power, since he has all or nothing.
Do you have a poison immune?
Dormammu.vision.hyperion.corvus till his 20 charges are out lol
I was thinking the same on cleanse also vicious assault could work too
I tried cleanse for Carnage, but the all or nothing carnage ended up firing of an sp2. what the fudge...
Finding that the boosts arent locked in for the duration of the fight. Fought Golden symbiod with second wind and recoup boost had buffs it timed out then dead.
Heroic and beat Master. If I fully explore Master I will have 11...if I finish beginner adds 1 for 12...then fully explore Normal that adds 2 for 14...so now I need to beat Epic to add 10 for a total of 24...Now I rank up now I have 9 remaining...if I fully explore Epic I will add 15 for 24 remaining. Why the odd amount?
He did do some sp2s for me
Hyperion should be able to kill him quite fast. By the way, what does mystic knowledge do?
Allows the mystic to have advantage over science champs
Challenge accepted @IanMoone ! Lol anyway here's what boosts i think you could use:
1) Unknown enemy(if it even reduces node ability accuracy in the first place)
2) Hardened coating(fights may be long and this may help as long as there's no unavoidable damage)
To end fights faster:
3) In for the kill
4) Cut deep and Vicious Assault(launch sp2 only during timer before masochism reactivates)
5) Cauterise(needs accurate timing)
I've never tried these before though. The only time I've had to deal with masochism so far was in occult labs hard mode, so i just powered through the regen.
@IanMoone
I don't think so, I have not tried SS in fights that have unavoidable damage like poison, degen.
I used a 4/55 Hyperion but I realize not everyone has that. I'd say a 5/50 hyp should do good as well or in general any poison immune.
Yes. Scroll up.