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Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
War Matches
GroundedWisdom
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We've had about half our Wars overpowered this Season so far. Without getting into specifics, we're not at the top of the Totem Pole, but we do what we can with what we have. These Allies are literally 3 times our strength, both in Roster and Rating, and their low War Rating leaves my guys and I scratching our heads. Now, we're all adults, so if we're beat, we can accept that. However, something has to be put into place that accounts for the capabilities of Allies. We run what we can, and honestly, these Allies don't belong in our Bracket. It's incredibly discouraging to my guys. I mean, when I say they don't belong there, it's grossly apparent. I don't know if it's the result of Tanking or Shells, or what have you, but once or twice is possible. Every other War is a clear sign that something needs to be looked at. There should be more systems in place to even out the shifting, whether through manipulation or otherwise. I'm all for a challenge, but when we're getting steamrolled frequently, that's just not a fair challenge.
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Crying on the Forums? Right. That's not my M.O. I've been playing Wars since their Beta. There are Matches that shouldn't be happening. Allies are taking advantage of lower Ratings, and regardless of being "smart", there's nothing you can do once it's Matched. I don't call taking advantage of weaker Allies "smart". I call it greedy. Not at all in the spirit of fair play. Then the Allies who are playing to the best of their capabilities are paying for people playing the system, not the game. It shouldn't be happening.
Could the system do a better job with matchmaking? Probably. But I don’t think there is an easy solution to that.
It really doesn't. At some point the actual rewards from the individual wars are worth as much or more than the season rewards. No one aiming at silver 1 tanks to bronze in the offseason. Honestly even in gold I don't think people are tanking.
I agree. It's the same problem with alliances that are penalized by having war ratings reduced and then beat the **** out of the alliances that are actually supposed to have that war rating. (Seems like you didn't think that was a problem but I could be wrong). I'm honestly not sure what the best system would be but we do need a system that prevents gross mismatches.
They aren’t knocked down to where they should be though. Not by a long shot. A plat 1 or master alliance piloting to get in the top tier isn’t piloting in order to stay out of gold lol
I get you. I'm anti-cheating all around.
Base rating has nothing to do with WAR....ffs
But we run 3 BGs. If you’re only running 1 or 2, you’re narrowing down the number of alliances you can be matched with. If none are available close to your rating, you get mismatched. So how do you match fairly against an alliance that doesn’t exist?
We have skill, and can hold our own pretty well. HOWEVER, they CLEARLY have the upper hand. Multiple 5* R5s make our defense lineups less effective. They also have heavier defense setups. We turned it around and won against a 15 million rated Alliance. So we're certainly not apposed to being matched against an Alliance that's give or take a million rating points of us. That's fair. But when they're over 2-3 million rating points greater than us, it's an uphill battle. After a few wins in a row, I could see matchmaking giving harder matches. But after a couple losses, and we were getting bonked on the noggin... well that to me says matchmaking still needs some work. Just the same, I don't like getting paired against 11-12 million rated Alliances as it's typically a wash. That's not fun for anyone. Sure, easy points. No doubt. It just takes some of the fun out of battling an Alliance that should be a fair match.
When Seasons are so competitive, there should be some fair competition. Why anyone would disagree with such is beyond me. To call manipulation of a flawed system 'smart playing' is tantamount too bending any rules and saying 'What? It's fair, we didn't do anything wrong persay.' You know well enough what you're doing. Play to win. Not play to manipulate. The fact there's methods of 'playing smart' shows there's flaws within matchmaking. All should be able to push for the win every war. Both sides. Otherwise, it's not really a war so much as a team of cannon fodder vs a team of cannonballs. That's not a war, that's a waste IMHO.
What's worse, we've now been matched against a 19 million rated Alliance. 5 million rating difference. That's just ridiculous. We run all 3 BGs, full up, all the time. It seems like matchmaking is rushing as the match was made almost instantly for this current war. To put this all into perspective, we're 3 and 3 this Season. Only 2 wins back to back. Again, I could understand if we were on a heavy streak getting a match like this. But c'mon, 2 wins and we get straight NOGGIN KNOCKED?!?!!! War rating AND Alliance rating should be close. If the match is not within give or take 1.5-2 million rating points, matchmaking should continue to hold until it finds a suitable match. This current match would be like our Alliance getting matched against a 9 million rated Alliance. That's not right. This is gonna be a rough one.