Seatin's November tier list

What do you guys think about it? Personally, I'm very confused as this means I have got multiple god tiers apparently now

Comments

Noob2435

I dislike it, he has medusa in the wrong tier and I'm trying to think what he is basing this list off. If it's war why is archangel up there? Archangel better than medusa? The whole list is just confusing to me.

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Fhfjghhggggjfhfjg

Who cares its just his opinion on the champs

chunkyb

I think I'll continue never watching or paying attention to him tbh

Cappy

Calm down folks it's one guys opinion, play who you wanna play lol

TinoMia

He bases his tier guide on usefulness, utilities, damage output, etc. for all champions. It’s simply a guide, never understood why people get upset. He does stipulate that certain champs are better for certain things but that this is a guide for ranking up champs that will help clear the most content.

PaytoPlay

I have to admit that list got abit confusing now... as an example AA and GP should have been in similar tier. I still like to use it as a rough reference or just a high level guideline while I am planning my next rank though.

SknZn

RandomizerRuns_4 wrote: »

Noob2435 wrote: »

I dislike it, he has medusa in the wrong tier and I'm trying to think what he is basing this list off. If it's war why is archangel up there? Archangel better than medusa? The whole list is just confusing to me.

I'll take Medusa over AA in almost any scenario. Only fights that involve healing I'll take in AA over her. Same goes for Capt America IW

Try take meduse over AA on Aegon or Champion, If target can bleed and poison therefore AA is best in every scenario for offense ofc

Maldroit2

The only real massive disagreement I have is corvus being beyond god tier. While I really don't like him, I can at least see why he's considered god tier, but I don't think he should be in beyond god tier because he's bad for long fights.

PaytoPlay

SknZn wrote: »

RandomizerRuns_4 wrote: »

Noob2435 wrote: »

I dislike it, he has medusa in the wrong tier and I'm trying to think what he is basing this list off. If it's war why is archangel up there? Archangel better than medusa? The whole list is just confusing to me.

I'll take Medusa over AA in almost any scenario. Only fights that involve healing I'll take in AA over her. Same goes for Capt America IW

Try take meduse over AA on Aegon or Champion, If target can bleed and poison therefore AA is best in every scenario for offense ofc

I probably bring medusa over AA on stun immune. Aegon and champion is only hard because of the node so really not a fair comparison. There are way too many poison immune or bleed immune ( or both) champ out there and either immune will make AA less effective. And not even counting OR cable and abom who punishes AA. No one is immune to armor break (maybe iwim).

rockykoston

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SknZn wrote: »

RandomizerRuns_4 wrote: »

Noob2435 wrote: »

I dislike it, he has medusa in the wrong tier and I'm trying to think what he is basing this list off. If it's war why is archangel up there? Archangel better than medusa? The whole list is just confusing to me.

I'll take Medusa over AA in almost any scenario. Only fights that involve healing I'll take in AA over her. Same goes for Capt America IW

Try take meduse over AA on Aegon or Champion, If target can bleed and poison therefore AA is best in every scenario for offense ofc

I probably bring medusa over AA on stun immune. Aegon and champion is only hard because of the node so really not a fair comparison. There are way too many poison immune or bleed immune ( or both) champ out there and either immune will make AA less effective. And not even counting OR cable and abom who punishes AA. No one is immune to armor break (maybe iwim).

Where are you trying to bring medusa?

Given that AA utility has decreased slightly with introduction of more bleed/poison immune champs/nodes, he is still a great attacker. The fights where he works are mostly over in under 40 hits. AA has no buffs, so he doesnt trigger buffet, he can stop healing with those poison stacks and if he is awakened he can shut down most abilities with neuro toxins.

As for medusa, she is great as well, just not as much as AA. There's a difference why a 5/50 AA can hit much above his weight whereas medusa needs a higher level to reach the same peak. Ofc, she is awesome against robots, so these are 2 very different champs.

ManChild

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V1PER1987

Maldroit2 wrote: »

The only real massive disagreement I have is corvus being beyond god tier. While I really don't like him, I can at least see why he's considered god tier, but I don't think he should be in beyond god tier because he's bad for long fights.

Wait what? There’s a beyond god tier? What the hell can be beyond god tier? That makes no sense. People are just making stuff up now.

PaytoPlay

rockykoston wrote: »

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SknZn wrote: »

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Noob2435 wrote: »

I dislike it, he has medusa in the wrong tier and I'm trying to think what he is basing this list off. If it's war why is archangel up there? Archangel better than medusa? The whole list is just confusing to me.

I'll take Medusa over AA in almost any scenario. Only fights that involve healing I'll take in AA over her. Same goes for Capt America IW

Try take meduse over AA on Aegon or Champion, If target can bleed and poison therefore AA is best in every scenario for offense ofc

I probably bring medusa over AA on stun immune. Aegon and champion is only hard because of the node so really not a fair comparison. There are way too many poison immune or bleed immune ( or both) champ out there and either immune will make AA less effective. And not even counting OR cable and abom who punishes AA. No one is immune to armor break (maybe iwim).

Where are you trying to bring medusa?

Given that AA utility has decreased slightly with introduction of more bleed/poison immune champs/nodes, he is still a great attacker. The fights where he works are mostly over in under 40 hits. AA has no buffs, so he doesnt trigger buffet, he can stop healing with those poison stacks and if he is awakened he can shut down most abilities with neuro toxins.

As for medusa, she is great as well, just not as much as AA. There's a difference why a 5/50 AA can hit much above his weight whereas medusa needs a higher level to reach the same peak. Ofc, she is awesome against robots, so these are 2 very different champs.

Calm down bro don't think I am disagreeing with you especially when a 4* AA can take care of uncollected bosses. If you read my comment properly all I am saying is if I am facing a stun immune node and I only have medusa or AA to choose from i probably use medusa over AA. Maybe you will pick AA over medusa in that case and that's fine. I just want to bring medusa to do AW boss defense this season.

GroundedWisdom

I always have my ear to the ground, but ultimately, I form my own views.

DankestChef

what are my thoughts? personally, i dont give a turd. Follow you're own experience, not from some guy who plays in his parents backyard.

ArcDeAngelus

Medusa over AA for a simple reason, you can run through all of ROL with just Medusa without revs or pots. Also it's a tier list of his choices and how he plays, so take it with a grain of salt.

Hamin

People are still using Seatin as a guide?

Chacha888

RandomizerRuns_4 wrote: »

I'll take Medusa over AA in almost any scenario. Only fights that involve healing I'll take in AA over her. Same goes for Capt America IW

Why AA is ranked higher than Medusa?

I take AA over any other champion if not bleed/poison/stun immune, maybe 15-20% of difficult quest fights?
I take Medusa over any other champion against robots, maybe 2% of difficult quest fights?

AA also works great on rage, safeguard, power gain, strike back, healing nodes provided no immunity.

A 3/45 or 5/50 AA is effective for most parts, medusa needs to be 4/55 to have the same effect.

Take this month EQ for example, AA is the best counter against Aegon, top 5 against the champion. Medusa is maybe top 5 against sparky?

We are not talking about who to rank up to 5/65 or comparing AA against Medusa on general use. There is a pool of 100+ champions and AA just stood out more than Medusa.

Same could be said on Corvus.

DNA3000

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SknZn wrote: »

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Noob2435 wrote: »

I dislike it, he has medusa in the wrong tier and I'm trying to think what he is basing this list off. If it's war why is archangel up there? Archangel better than medusa? The whole list is just confusing to me.

I'll take Medusa over AA in almost any scenario. Only fights that involve healing I'll take in AA over her. Same goes for Capt America IW

Try take meduse over AA on Aegon or Champion, If target can bleed and poison therefore AA is best in every scenario for offense ofc

I probably bring medusa over AA on stun immune. Aegon and champion is only hard because of the node so really not a fair comparison.

I think the comparison shouldn't be "fair." The most important question isn't which champions are better than others on a theoretical even playing field. It should be which champions are more useful to the player in all the gameplay situations they have to face, fair or unfair. For me, I find AA more useful than Medusa. YMMV.

Duke_Silver

At this point I disagree with a decent amount of his rankings but some are still relatively reasonable. But hey, it’s his opinion, and he clearly that states in his videos, he’s just giving a rough guide.

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Noob2435

I think a lot of people are riding a hate medusa train, kinda like the blade one. Either that or they don't know how to use her. I always try to be respectful of what someone thinks, but AA over medusa in all areas of the game? What game are you guys playing? Aw attack/defense, and aq medusa outshines him, I'll give him questing but even there he is limited on what he can do against bleed/posion immune champs and stun immune.

SknZn

RandomizerRuns_4 wrote: »

@SknZn did you read what I said? I said only in fights that involve Healing, will I take him over Medusa, AEgon is on Buffet & the Champion has insane regen too. SMH

Try against Unst Jugg, Magik, Domino, Mordo or Thanos, its not only that neurotoxin can stop heal but AA reduction. If u use Medusa over AA against those fights well i have no word for you.
It’s not only they has insane regen, But reduce AA reduction, 3x neurotoxin boom, no unstoppable, no aspect of war

SknZn

Noob2435 wrote: »

I think a lot of people are riding a hate medusa train, kinda like the blade one. Either that or they don't know how to use her. I always try to be respectful of what someone thinks, but AA over medusa in all areas of the game? What game are you guys playing? Aw attack/defense, and aq medusa outshines him, I'll give him questing but even there he is limited on what he can do against bleed/posion immune champs and stun immune.

I get your idea, but I didn't say he is good on bleed poison immune one lol, but stun immune? Doesn’t mean he cant neurotoxin, besides not all ppl 1-5 tier aw, plus next season might be different, and for quest its every month we get new one. For offense, if target can bleed and poison, then 100% AA over Medusa for me. It’s my opinion anyway,

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SknZn

RandomizerRuns_4 wrote: »

@SknZn 3/5 you mentioned were Class Disadvantages, so obviously wouldn't take Medusa in those match-ups over AA. But Domino & Thanos, yes, I'll take Medusa over AA.

Okay i get it. Class disadvantage, just ask you 2 friendly questions.
1) if those mystics were on class reserve node would you bring Medusa over AA?
2) If this unc aegon and champs weren’t on buffet or any other healin ability would you bring medusa over AA?