I literally just showed you they’ve done exactly that before
The restrictions were in the item description and on the forums
Go troll somewhere else please
Does everyone come to the Forum? I wasn't trolling at all. I was showing a different perspective. God forbid someone doesn't grab a pitchfork. Bottom line is it was a bug. It's fixed. I don't care if a few people got to use it on newer Champs. Doesn't affect me at all. It's not going to make a difference to the people who used them, or the ones that didn't. It was a glitch. Now people want a glitch.
I literally just showed you they’ve done exactly that before
The restrictions were in the item description and on the forums
Go troll somewhere else please
Does everyone come to the Forum? I wasn't trolling at all. I was showing a different perspective. God forbid someone doesn't grab a pitchfork. Bottom line is it was a bug. It's fixed. I don't care if a few people got to use it on newer Champs. Doesn't affect me at all. It's not going to make a difference to the people who used them, or the ones that didn't. It was a glitch. Now people want a glitch.
Others care that “a few people” purposely exploited this bug for otherwise unattainable advancement of their account. Many of those other people are directly affected by people who did it.
Thanks for sharing your opinion. Feel free to respect a differing opinion at any time.
I literally just showed you they’ve done exactly that before
The restrictions were in the item description and on the forums
Go troll somewhere else please
Does everyone come to the Forum? I wasn't trolling at all. I was showing a different perspective. God forbid someone doesn't grab a pitchfork. Bottom line is it was a bug. It's fixed. I don't care if a few people got to use it on newer Champs. Doesn't affect me at all. It's not going to make a difference to the people who used them, or the ones that didn't. It was a glitch. Now people want a glitch.
Others care that a few people purposely exploited this bug for otherwise unattainable advancement of their account. Many of those other people are directly affected by people who did it.
Thanks for sharing your opinion. Feel free to respect a differing opinion at any time.
You mean they used the Gems they earned? How do you determine who exploited that, and who just used the Gems? There's only so many awarded. Which means some may have been aware but others just used them. They made a mistake. They let people keep it because it was on their end. People who didn't even use them yet weren't affected.
I literally just showed you they’ve done exactly that before
The restrictions were in the item description and on the forums
Go troll somewhere else please
Does everyone come to the Forum? I wasn't trolling at all. I was showing a different perspective. God forbid someone doesn't grab a pitchfork. Bottom line is it was a bug. It's fixed. I don't care if a few people got to use it on newer Champs. Doesn't affect me at all. It's not going to make a difference to the people who used them, or the ones that didn't. It was a glitch. Now people want a glitch.
You dont care???
Some do like me who plays in top aw meta and in a top alliance
My peers get to rank up any champ, while im restricted to 2015 champions
It also effects those who complete this 100% in the future knowing the first people who did this abused a bug and essentialy got better rewards.
You dont care because you will never be up here, but its more than that, its morale thing.
And everyone should get same rewards even if its day 1 100% or 1-3 years from now
The rewards details was released before the event came out.
And thats what it should have rewarded.
Feel free to know it effects end game community and future completion from community.
You cant just give people completly different rewards just because they completed it first
See everyone this is where the block list and LOL button come in handy.
Carry on
Yep. They’ve sent in thier closer. He’ll now derail the thread and get it closed. It’s amazing how such a low level player can come in and take over discussions. He doesn’t care that they get an advantage but he cares about a player running 10 accounts and stealing his 3 star shards in war. How convenient
I literally just showed you they’ve done exactly that before
The restrictions were in the item description and on the forums
Go troll somewhere else please
Does everyone come to the Forum? I wasn't trolling at all. I was showing a different perspective. God forbid someone doesn't grab a pitchfork. Bottom line is it was a bug. It's fixed. I don't care if a few people got to use it on newer Champs. Doesn't affect me at all. It's not going to make a difference to the people who used them, or the ones that didn't. It was a glitch. Now people want a glitch.
You dont care???
Some do like me who plays in top aw meta and in a top alliance
My peers get to rank up any champ, while im restricted to 2015 champions
It also effects those who complete this 100% in the future knowing the first people who did this abused a bug and essentialy got better rewards.
You dont care because you will never be up here, but its more than that, its morale thing.
And everyone should get same rewards even if its day 1 100% or 1-3 years from now
The rewards details was released before the event came out.
And thats what it should have rewarded.
Feel free to know it effects end game community and future completion from community.
You cant just give people completly different rewards just because they completed it first
I'm being described as selfish and people are complaining about what others got. Interesting.
If something is a bug, it's not intended. They have to fix it. They can't just let it ride for everyone because everyone should get the same thing. Did some use it knowing it was bugged? Sure. Some didn't. How many people got to use them in the bugged state do you figure? A handful, perhaps. People who are already developed, and a couple more R4s among them are not going to throw the game off.
Do not presume to tell me what I will and will not do. It's there for everyone should I choose to do it. The issue is mine to discuss as well. I say it doesn't matter.
The best part are the players who completed this on purpose specifically to take advantage of this bug that are now offering to complete it for other players for a price.
Based on what I’ve seen, for only $800 you can have someone complete it for you to get rewards worse than they got.
The best part are the players who completed this on purpose specifically to take advantage of this bug that are now offering to complete it for other players for a price.
For only $800 and you can have someone complete it for you to get rewards worse than they got.
Offering to be a paid Merc is a whole other ball of wax. That's not cool. My point is, you need quantifiable proof to take action in the case of an exploit. You can't prove who had knowledge of the glitch, and who just used their Gems. That's not something you can do. We can't read peoples' minds.
I literally just showed you they’ve done exactly that before
The restrictions were in the item description and on the forums
Go troll somewhere else please
Does everyone come to the Forum? I wasn't trolling at all. I was showing a different perspective. God forbid someone doesn't grab a pitchfork. Bottom line is it was a bug. It's fixed. I don't care if a few people got to use it on newer Champs. Doesn't affect me at all. It's not going to make a difference to the people who used them, or the ones that didn't. It was a glitch. Now people want a glitch.
You dont care???
Some do like me who plays in top aw meta and in a top alliance
My peers get to rank up any champ, while im restricted to 2015 champions
It also effects those who complete this 100% in the future knowing the first people who did this abused a bug and essentialy got better rewards.
You dont care because you will never be up here, but its more than that, its morale thing.
And everyone should get same rewards even if its day 1 100% or 1-3 years from now
The rewards details was released before the event came out.
And thats what it should have rewarded.
Feel free to know it effects end game community and future completion from community.
You cant just give people completly different rewards just because they completed it first
I'm being described as selfish and people are complaining about what others got. Interesting.
If something is a bug, it's not intended. They have to fix it. They can't just let it ride for everyone because everyone should get the same thing. Did some use it knowing it was bugged? Sure. Some didn't. How many people got to use them in the bugged state do you figure? A handful, perhaps. People who are already developed, and a couple more R4s among them are not going to throw the game off.
Do not presume to tell me what I will and will not do. It's there for everyone should I choose to do it. The issue is mine to discuss as well. I say it doesn't matter.
The ones who knew and did it are alot of end game community and those willing to spend to get it done got to abused it.
People who are already devloped??
The end game players duhhh!!!!
and you said you dont care because it doesnt effect you!!!
But it effects people like me who play against these people, and they have an edge on rankups!!!
It was a bug and kabam needs to do right thing and fix it, and correct the real rewards that was suppose to be given when u 100% it.
And you say its no intended?
Was it intended to give u a non “2015” ranknup gem?
The rewards was intended to be what was said when they was released before the event even started!!!!
The people who used this glitch gems know damn well what they was doing.
Your comment
“They can't just let it ride for everyone because everyone should get the same thing.”
You pretty much shot urself on the foot.
This is what we are trying to say. But you are derailing this post.
How many pages in this thread and not 1 mod can speak... they warned before about taking advantage of bugs and yet we here again, all it takes it a post to say they will reverse the gems of those who exploit the bug. Then again the people that did exploit it are top players who spend money and we all know rules are not same for whole player base
Plenty who spend more than they spend did not do this, based on the fact that people have been banned for less and that kabam’s own words said this is a ToS violation.
This isn’t about money. They will lose more by not reversing it.
The main issue is the players that took advantage knew it was bug. Then they told their alliance mates so they too could rush to complete it. They knowingly exploited a bug and it's just ignored. At the very least they should have those champs ranked down and not refunded the ISO or gold spent leveling past r3.
I literally just showed you they’ve done exactly that before
The restrictions were in the item description and on the forums
Go troll somewhere else please
Does everyone come to the Forum? I wasn't trolling at all. I was showing a different perspective. God forbid someone doesn't grab a pitchfork. Bottom line is it was a bug. It's fixed. I don't care if a few people got to use it on newer Champs. Doesn't affect me at all. It's not going to make a difference to the people who used them, or the ones that didn't. It was a glitch. Now people want a glitch.
You dont care???
Some do like me who plays in top aw meta and in a top alliance
My peers get to rank up any champ, while im restricted to 2015 champions
It also effects those who complete this 100% in the future knowing the first people who did this abused a bug and essentialy got better rewards.
You dont care because you will never be up here, but its more than that, its morale thing.
And everyone should get same rewards even if its day 1 100% or 1-3 years from now
The rewards details was released before the event came out.
And thats what it should have rewarded.
Feel free to know it effects end game community and future completion from community.
You cant just give people completly different rewards just because they completed it first
I'm being described as selfish and people are complaining about what others got. Interesting.
If something is a bug, it's not intended. They have to fix it. They can't just let it ride for everyone because everyone should get the same thing. Did some use it knowing it was bugged? Sure. Some didn't. How many people got to use them in the bugged state do you figure? A handful, perhaps. People who are already developed, and a couple more R4s among them are not going to throw the game off.
Do not presume to tell me what I will and will not do. It's there for everyone should I choose to do it. The issue is mine to discuss as well. I say it doesn't matter.
The ones who knew and did it are alot of end game community and those willing to spend to get it done got to abused it.
People who are already devloped??
The end game players duhhh!!!!
and you said you dont care because it doesnt effect you!!!
But it effects people like me who play against these people, and they have an edge on rankups!!!
It was a bug and kabam needs to do right thing and fix it, and correct the real rewards that was suppose to be given when u 100% it.
And you say its no intended?
Was it intended to give u a non “2015” ranknup gem?
The rewards was intended to be what was said when they was released before the event even started!!!!
The people who used this glitch gems know damn well what they was doing.
Your comment
“They can't just let it ride for everyone because everyone should get the same thing.”
You pretty much shot urself on the foot.
This is what we are trying to say. But you are derailing this post.
I'm not derailing it at all. You think people have to agree just to comment? I disagree with the reactions and the statements made.
You say they knew damn well. How do you prove that? People do the Quest, they get the Rewards, which are a limited amount, and they can use them after earning them. How do you know what knowledge they had?
I'm not even going to engage with a discussion about how I'm not on your level. The issue is free for everyone to discuss, and if one more Domino is going to throw people off that much, how are they in the Top to begin with?
GroundedWisdom it’s not that you don’t have an argument (well it’s mostly that) but you’re Kabam’s lapdog. Until the MD nerf you were always the 1st person to say “get good” whenever anyone complained it was broken, you defended the changes to interacting with Mordo with BOTH Drax and Blade, defended the Spark-Danger Sense tweak
AND! I am above going back to the instance I’ve already cited were using ilgottenrewards was grounds for the reversal of said rewards
Arguing that people MIGHT not have known does not mean things shouldn't be reversed.
Many people simply doing completion event had rewards taken away during that old eq bug. They didn't realize what was happening, yet they still had resources taken back.
2- to everyone, please don't get suckered in to an argument about things that don't matter by people that just want to derail. People can state their opinions all they want. None of it changes how very wrong this decision was or how easy it would be to make it right.
I know that it has already been said many times by many people is this thread, but I would like to add my voice to this too. I appreciate this is a bug, but these are very significant rewards and allowing a subset of people the chance to use them on a different range of champs to others should not be allowed to stand. The players who used them on ineligible champs should not lose out, but they should have their use of the items rolled back and any resources returned (minus the bugged ability!).
I literally just showed you they’ve done exactly that before
The restrictions were in the item description and on the forums
Go troll somewhere else please
Does everyone come to the Forum? I wasn't trolling at all. I was showing a different perspective. God forbid someone doesn't grab a pitchfork. Bottom line is it was a bug. It's fixed. I don't care if a few people got to use it on newer Champs. Doesn't affect me at all. It's not going to make a difference to the people who used them, or the ones that didn't. It was a glitch. Now people want a glitch.
You dont care???
Some do like me who plays in top aw meta and in a top alliance
My peers get to rank up any champ, while im restricted to 2015 champions
It also effects those who complete this 100% in the future knowing the first people who did this abused a bug and essentialy got better rewards.
You dont care because you will never be up here, but its more than that, its morale thing.
And everyone should get same rewards even if its day 1 100% or 1-3 years from now
The rewards details was released before the event came out.
And thats what it should have rewarded.
Feel free to know it effects end game community and future completion from community.
You cant just give people completly different rewards just because they completed it first
I'm being described as selfish and people are complaining about what others got. Interesting.
If something is a bug, it's not intended. They have to fix it. They can't just let it ride for everyone because everyone should get the same thing. Did some use it knowing it was bugged? Sure. Some didn't. How many people got to use them in the bugged state do you figure? A handful, perhaps. People who are already developed, and a couple more R4s among them are not going to throw the game off.
Do not presume to tell me what I will and will not do. It's there for everyone should I choose to do it. The issue is mine to discuss as well. I say it doesn't matter.
The ones who knew and did it are alot of end game community and those willing to spend to get it done got to abused it.
People who are already devloped??
The end game players duhhh!!!!
and you said you dont care because it doesnt effect you!!!
But it effects people like me who play against these people, and they have an edge on rankups!!!
It was a bug and kabam needs to do right thing and fix it, and correct the real rewards that was suppose to be given when u 100% it.
And you say its no intended?
Was it intended to give u a non “2015” ranknup gem?
The rewards was intended to be what was said when they was released before the event even started!!!!
The people who used this glitch gems know damn well what they was doing.
Your comment
“They can't just let it ride for everyone because everyone should get the same thing.”
You pretty much shot urself on the foot.
This is what we are trying to say. But you are derailing this post.
I'm not derailing it at all. You think people have to agree just to comment? I disagree with the reactions and the statements made.
You say they knew damn well. How do you prove that? People do the Quest, they get the Rewards, which are a limited amount, and they can use them after earning them. How do you know what knowledge they had?
I'm not even going to engage with a discussion about how I'm not on your level. The issue is free for everyone to discuss, and if one more Domino is going to throw people off that much, how are they in the Top to begin with?
Your not in my level not where i play at but
i know more than you when it comes to being in a top alliance and facing top alliances.
They know because this event is not easy.
1. Because many of top players willl rush events to get end game rewards. This benefits many lf those in masters.
2. People who can complete this obviously have the roster/resources to complete this event. They know they wanted to get the rewards.
May it be rank up gem and that r5 5* gem is game changing.
3 i know this because alot of end game players are progressing and completing this fast as possible to get full benefit of the rewards.
Many people here like me have a 3-4 r5 5* and having the choice of “any” rank for another r4/5 5* defender/attacker makes a huge difference than being restricted to “2015” only champs.
4. People still die in war, and people up in end game love to get best ranks ups as possible.
Those who completed this 100% and got away with it...
Get to have another r5 5* and got
Only reason i said domino was an example.
They get to have...
3x class rank up gems of “
any”champion to 5* r3-4
It should have been
3x class rank up gem for 2015 champions
The luxury to r4 any champion is huge.
5 The top of alliances die less than 10 and even less than 5 times. Each rank ups is crucial. And they only look at trying to get better defense/attack to stay on top.
6. News spread fast in end game comunity. Those in top alliances who finished it 100% and found about this obviously took advantage of it whoever can do it before kabam changed it back thus telling the people in his alliance to take advantage.
7. The rewards need to be the rewards that kabam intended it to be.
Nobody should have an edge over anybody when it comes to rank ups and rewards from an event.
If i 100% it now and u do it sometime later in the future, then we should get same rewards.
This feels like Kabam is telling us we should look at other games like Diablo immortal (lol bad joke), but you know... other games if im going to be ripped off i prefer not to know they are allowing it!
Comments
Because they’ve already exploited it and want to keep their ill gotten gains.
Or they’re just cowards afraid of controversy.
Thanks to Dave for having a pair.
Yeah most times quick to point out an issue...except when it benefits them.
Does everyone come to the Forum? I wasn't trolling at all. I was showing a different perspective. God forbid someone doesn't grab a pitchfork. Bottom line is it was a bug. It's fixed. I don't care if a few people got to use it on newer Champs. Doesn't affect me at all. It's not going to make a difference to the people who used them, or the ones that didn't. It was a glitch. Now people want a glitch.
Others care that “a few people” purposely exploited this bug for otherwise unattainable advancement of their account. Many of those other people are directly affected by people who did it.
Thanks for sharing your opinion. Feel free to respect a differing opinion at any time.
You mean they used the Gems they earned? How do you determine who exploited that, and who just used the Gems? There's only so many awarded. Which means some may have been aware but others just used them. They made a mistake. They let people keep it because it was on their end. People who didn't even use them yet weren't affected.
You dont care???
Some do like me who plays in top aw meta and in a top alliance
My peers get to rank up any champ, while im restricted to 2015 champions
It also effects those who complete this 100% in the future knowing the first people who did this abused a bug and essentialy got better rewards.
You dont care because you will never be up here, but its more than that, its morale thing.
And everyone should get same rewards even if its day 1 100% or 1-3 years from now
The rewards details was released before the event came out.
And thats what it should have rewarded.
Feel free to know it effects end game community and future completion from community.
You cant just give people completly different rewards just because they completed it first
What a selfish opinion you have
@GroundedWisdom
Carry on
Only happens if you let it. Keep it on point.
I'm being described as selfish and people are complaining about what others got. Interesting.
If something is a bug, it's not intended. They have to fix it. They can't just let it ride for everyone because everyone should get the same thing. Did some use it knowing it was bugged? Sure. Some didn't. How many people got to use them in the bugged state do you figure? A handful, perhaps. People who are already developed, and a couple more R4s among them are not going to throw the game off.
Do not presume to tell me what I will and will not do. It's there for everyone should I choose to do it. The issue is mine to discuss as well. I say it doesn't matter.
Based on what I’ve seen, for only $800 you can have someone complete it for you to get rewards worse than they got.
Offering to be a paid Merc is a whole other ball of wax. That's not cool. My point is, you need quantifiable proof to take action in the case of an exploit. You can't prove who had knowledge of the glitch, and who just used their Gems. That's not something you can do. We can't read peoples' minds.
The ones who knew and did it are alot of end game community and those willing to spend to get it done got to abused it.
People who are already devloped??
The end game players duhhh!!!!
and you said you dont care because it doesnt effect you!!!
But it effects people like me who play against these people, and they have an edge on rankups!!!
It was a bug and kabam needs to do right thing and fix it, and correct the real rewards that was suppose to be given when u 100% it.
And you say its no intended?
Was it intended to give u a non “2015” ranknup gem?
The rewards was intended to be what was said when they was released before the event even started!!!!
The people who used this glitch gems know damn well what they was doing.
Your comment
“They can't just let it ride for everyone because everyone should get the same thing.”
You pretty much shot urself on the foot.
This is what we are trying to say. But you are derailing this post.
Plenty who spend more than they spend did not do this, based on the fact that people have been banned for less and that kabam’s own words said this is a ToS violation.
This isn’t about money. They will lose more by not reversing it.
I'm not derailing it at all. You think people have to agree just to comment? I disagree with the reactions and the statements made.
You say they knew damn well. How do you prove that? People do the Quest, they get the Rewards, which are a limited amount, and they can use them after earning them. How do you know what knowledge they had?
I'm not even going to engage with a discussion about how I'm not on your level. The issue is free for everyone to discuss, and if one more Domino is going to throw people off that much, how are they in the Top to begin with?
AND! I am above going back to the instance I’ve already cited were using ilgottenrewards was grounds for the reversal of said rewards
Arguing that people MIGHT not have known does not mean things shouldn't be reversed.
Many people simply doing completion event had rewards taken away during that old eq bug. They didn't realize what was happening, yet they still had resources taken back.
2- to everyone, please don't get suckered in to an argument about things that don't matter by people that just want to derail. People can state their opinions all they want. None of it changes how very wrong this decision was or how easy it would be to make it right.
Stay on message imo.
Your not in my level not where i play at but
i know more than you when it comes to being in a top alliance and facing top alliances.
They know because this event is not easy.
1. Because many of top players willl rush events to get end game rewards. This benefits many lf those in masters.
2. People who can complete this obviously have the roster/resources to complete this event. They know they wanted to get the rewards.
May it be rank up gem and that r5 5* gem is game changing.
3 i know this because alot of end game players are progressing and completing this fast as possible to get full benefit of the rewards.
Many people here like me have a 3-4 r5 5* and having the choice of “any” rank for another r4/5 5* defender/attacker makes a huge difference than being restricted to “2015” only champs.
4. People still die in war, and people up in end game love to get best ranks ups as possible.
Those who completed this 100% and got away with it...
Get to have another r5 5* and got
Only reason i said domino was an example.
They get to have...
3x class rank up gems of “
any”champion to 5* r3-4
It should have been
3x class rank up gem for 2015 champions
The luxury to r4 any champion is huge.
5 The top of alliances die less than 10 and even less than 5 times. Each rank ups is crucial. And they only look at trying to get better defense/attack to stay on top.
6. News spread fast in end game comunity. Those in top alliances who finished it 100% and found about this obviously took advantage of it whoever can do it before kabam changed it back thus telling the people in his alliance to take advantage.
7. The rewards need to be the rewards that kabam intended it to be.
Nobody should have an edge over anybody when it comes to rank ups and rewards from an event.
If i 100% it now and u do it sometime later in the future, then we should get same rewards.
Thats morale thing to do
Thats the botton line.