Map 6 Heimdall on power start 2....real mature

Zuko_ILCZuko_ILC Member Posts: 1,516 ★★★★★
Like seriously guys this is just straight BS. You can't dodge his l2 and you guys know that at least Dr. you can evade it this you are just going to take the special and if you survive then you can beat him. I'm fine with all the other nodes and champs but this is just a straight up money grab and isn't right.
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  • SarcasticTaurusSarcasticTaurus Member Posts: 446 ★★★
    HUH?? Dr Who?
  • OrdalcaOrdalca Member Posts: 543 ★★★
    HUH?? Dr Who?

    Dr Strange. It's the node just before the second miniboss on the left side.
  • V1PER1987V1PER1987 Member Posts: 3,474 ★★★★★
    Why is this BS? I remember this being cake in Uncollected.
  • Kobster84Kobster84 Member Posts: 2,898 ★★★★★
    Did this heimdall start with a buff if so then ye that’s bs
  • Zuko_ILCZuko_ILC Member Posts: 1,516 ★★★★★
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    Why is this BS? I remember this being cake in Uncollected.

    100% attack, special 2 deals 20% more damage and can't be blocked, Heimdall can't be evaded during his l2 therefore you have to take an l2 that will probably kill you at the start of the fight and attack will scale up on days.
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,120 ★★★★★
    Just. Blok the last part with a parry and u redus the danmged shuld Not be that bad one Day 1 aside from Them ther hav the prisge Cape at Day 1
  • V1PER1987V1PER1987 Member Posts: 3,474 ★★★★★
    Zuko_ILC wrote: »
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    Why is this BS? I remember this being cake in Uncollected.

    100% attack, special 2 deals 20% more damage and can't be blocked, Heimdall can't be evaded during his l2 therefore you have to take an l2 that will probably kill you at the start of the fight and attack will scale up on days.

    Only the opening sword swipe can’t be blocked. From what I remember you can parry the projectile. Use a high BP champ like CAIW to reduce the damage to (near) nothing.
  • Zuko_ILCZuko_ILC Member Posts: 1,516 ★★★★★
    Gamer wrote: »
    Just. Blok the last part with a parry and u redus the danmged shuld Not be that bad one Day 1 aside from Them ther hav the prisge Cape at Day 1

    Day 1 we run this every day lol
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,120 ★★★★★
    Zuko_ILC wrote: »
    Gamer wrote: »
    Just. Blok the last part with a parry and u redus the danmged shuld Not be that bad one Day 1 aside from Them ther hav the prisge Cape at Day 1

    Day 1 we run this every day lol
    But it stil what im say parry the last part of he projtile. That Not that hard to do.
  • Tasty_Yum_YumsTasty_Yum_Yums Member Posts: 444 ★★★
    edited December 2018
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    Why is this BS? I remember this being cake in Uncollected.

    His SP2 is unblockable and cannot be evaded. That leaves you with about 3-5 options:

    - Hope you get lucky with vision og, Dorm, or Stark and can parry from the start and power drain.
    - Use iceman and try to ride out ice armor.
    - Red skull and hope he hits into you (even though red skull will time out since he’s a wet noodle).
    - LC awakened.
    - possibly eat the SP2 and regen with Ultron, Nebula, Ironmen variations. Not sure this would even work. The SP2 will do a significant, if not match ending, damage. The stun after will likely lead to a 5-piece combo to the face and game over.
    - Ghost if you time up phasing.

    Please let me know if there are any other options I missed.

    When you have less than 10% of the champs to face a node/champ, it becomes more about who you have and not about skill. That is my issue and concern here.
  • HaminHamin Member Posts: 2,444 ★★★★★
    Oh Kabam... you devil, you.

    Smh
  • MavRCK_MavRCK_ Member Posts: 512 ★★★
    100% agree - it’s probably an oversight - hope they change this asap.
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,120 ★★★★★
    Ther stil a Way arund him just dash back from Star bait the sp2 parry the last part of it
  • DTMelodicMetalDTMelodicMetal Member Posts: 2,785 ★★★★★
    Hold block to bait strike attacks, the AI is less likely to use special attacks when you stay in a blocking position
  • Tasty_Yum_YumsTasty_Yum_Yums Member Posts: 444 ★★★
    edited December 2018
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    Why is this BS? I remember this being cake in Uncollected.

    His SP2 is unblockable and cannot be evaded. That leaves you with about 3-5 options:

    - Hope you get lucky with vision og, Dorm, or Stark and can parry from the start and power drain.
    - Use iceman and try to ride out ice armor.
    - Red skull and hope he hits into you (even though red skull will time out since he’s a wet noodle).
    - LC awakened.
    - possibly eat the SP2 and regen with Ultron, Nebula, Ironmen variations. Not sure this would even work. The SP2 will do a significant, if not match ending, damage. The stun after will likely lead to a 5-piece combo to the face and game over.
    - Ghost if you time up phasing.

    Please let me know if there are any other options I missed.

    When you have less than 10% of the champs to face a node/champ, it becomes more about who you have and not about skill. That is my issue and concern here.

    Welcome to MCOC. This must be your first rodeo. I’m just kidding.

    I did mention above that CAIW might be a good option if you parry the projectile but sometimes what sounds good on paper doesn’t work in practice.

    His SP2 is unblockable if he has 1 buff; true strike from the SP2. You can’t parry it....

    I’m all for being wrong in the wrong and hope I’ve overlooked or not following something quite right with this. As of now it doesn’t look good though.
  • SungjSungj Member Posts: 2,113 ★★★★★
    Zuko_ILC wrote: »
    Like seriously guys this is just straight BS. You can't dodge his l2 and you guys know that at least Dr. you can evade it this you are just going to take the special and if you survive then you can beat him. I'm fine with all the other nodes and champs but this is just a straight up money grab and isn't right.

    At least one person in your alliance should have a high level ghost,daredevil or hood who can miss projectiles or iceman and emma frost who can tank special damage. This would be a **** node if it was in a regular quest but in an alliance event where you have 30 rosters to play around it I think it is fine unless I am misunderstanding the situation and there are multiple hiemdalls like this
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  • V1PER1987V1PER1987 Member Posts: 3,474 ★★★★★
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    Why is this BS? I remember this being cake in Uncollected.

    His SP2 is unblockable and cannot be evaded. That leaves you with about 3-5 options:

    - Hope you get lucky with vision og, Dorm, or Stark and can parry from the start and power drain.
    - Use iceman and try to ride out ice armor.
    - Red skull and hope he hits into you (even though red skull will time out since he’s a wet noodle).
    - LC awakened.
    - possibly eat the SP2 and regen with Ultron, Nebula, Ironmen variations. Not sure this would even work. The SP2 will do a significant, if not match ending, damage. The stun after will likely lead to a 5-piece combo to the face and game over.
    - Ghost if you time up phasing.

    Please let me know if there are any other options I missed.

    When you have less than 10% of the champs to face a node/champ, it becomes more about who you have and not about skill. That is my issue and concern here.

    Welcome to MCOC. This must be your first rodeo. I’m just kidding.

    I did mention above that CAIW might be a good option if you parry the projectile but sometimes what sounds good on paper doesn’t work in practice.

    His SP2 is unblockable if he has 1 buff; true strike from the SP2. You can’t parry it....

    I’m all for being wrong in the wrong and hope I’ve overlooked or not following something quite right with this. As of now it doesn’t look good though.

    Heimdall had the same abilities in the EQ a few months back. You just evade the sword swipe and parry the projectile.
  • Tasty_Yum_YumsTasty_Yum_Yums Member Posts: 444 ★★★
    Drooped1 wrote: »
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    Why is this BS? I remember this being cake in Uncollected.

    His SP2 is unblockable and cannot be evaded. That leaves you with about 3-5 options:

    - Hope you get lucky with vision og, Dorm, or Stark and can parry from the start and power drain.
    - Use iceman and try to ride out ice armor.
    - Red skull and hope he hits into you (even though red skull will time out since he’s a wet noodle).
    - LC awakened.
    - possibly eat the SP2 and regen with Ultron, Nebula, Ironmen variations. Not sure this would even work. The SP2 will do a significant, if not match ending, damage. The stun after will likely lead to a 5-piece combo to the face and game over.
    - Ghost if you time up phasing.

    Please let me know if there are any other options I missed.

    When you have less than 10% of the champs to face a node/champ, it becomes more about who you have and not about skill. That is my issue and concern here.

    Welcome to MCOC. This must be your first rodeo. I’m just kidding.

    I did mention above that CAIW might be a good option if you parry the projectile but sometimes what sounds good on paper doesn’t work in practice.

    His SP2 is unblockable if he has 1 buff; true strike from the SP2. You can’t parry it....

    I’m all for being wrong in the wrong and hope I’ve overlooked or not following something quite right with this. As of now it doesn’t look good though.

    You cant parry the first part you can easy evade then block the second.

    Really, let me know how that turns out for you...
  • SarcasticTaurusSarcasticTaurus Member Posts: 446 ★★★
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    Why is this BS? I remember this being cake in Uncollected.

    His SP2 is unblockable and cannot be evaded. That leaves you with about 3-5 options:

    - Hope you get lucky with vision og, Dorm, or Stark and can parry from the start and power drain.
    - Use iceman and try to ride out ice armor.
    - Red skull and hope he hits into you (even though red skull will time out since he’s a wet noodle).
    - LC awakened.
    - possibly eat the SP2 and regen with Ultron, Nebula, Ironmen variations. Not sure this would even work. The SP2 will do a significant, if not match ending, damage. The stun after will likely lead to a 5-piece combo to the face and game over.
    - Ghost if you time up phasing.

    Please let me know if there are any other options I missed.

    When you have less than 10% of the champs to face a node/champ, it becomes more about who you have and not about skill. That is my issue and concern here.

    Welcome to MCOC. This must be your first rodeo. I’m just kidding.

    I did mention above that CAIW might be a good option if you parry the projectile but sometimes what sounds good on paper doesn’t work in practice.

    His SP2 is unblockable if he has 1 buff; true strike from the SP2. You can’t parry it....

    I’m all for being wrong in the wrong and hope I’ve overlooked or not following something quite right with this. As of now it doesn’t look good though.

    Heimdall had the same abilities in the EQ a few months back. You just evade the sword swipe and parry the projectile.

    If he has an armor up, it is unblockable lol
  • Zuko_ILCZuko_ILC Member Posts: 1,516 ★★★★★
    Hold block to bait strike attacks, the AI is less likely to use special attacks when you stay in a blocking position

    So eat an l3 instead?....probably not good idea and also if he has armor up you can't parry the projectile it's unblockable.
  • Zuko_ILCZuko_ILC Member Posts: 1,516 ★★★★★
    Luke Cage is basically the only answer, but again if you haven't been lucky enough to pull him and dupe him you are kinda screwed at the moment. If the AI evades you basically are going to die or limp out of the match, and theres at least 2 of them that I saw on that node in T1 and T2.
  • icm4266icm4266 Member Posts: 45
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    Why is this BS? I remember this being cake in Uncollected.

    His SP2 is unblockable and cannot be evaded. That leaves you with about 3-5 options:

    - Hope you get lucky with vision og, Dorm, or Stark and can parry from the start and power drain.
    - Use iceman and try to ride out ice armor.
    - Red skull and hope he hits into you (even though red skull will time out since he’s a wet noodle).
    - LC awakened.
    - possibly eat the SP2 and regen with Ultron, Nebula, Ironmen variations. Not sure this would even work. The SP2 will do a significant, if not match ending, damage. The stun after will likely lead to a 5-piece combo to the face and game over.
    - Ghost if you time up phasing.

    Please let me know if there are any other options I missed.

    When you have less than 10% of the champs to face a node/champ, it becomes more about who you have and not about skill. That is my issue and concern here.

    Mordo can block unblockable attacks if his shield has been up for more than .5 seconds
  • Zuko_ILCZuko_ILC Member Posts: 1,516 ★★★★★
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    Show a video showing that you can’t block the projectile. I know you guys keep throwing around unblockable but unblockable doesn’t mean everything is unblockable.

    His special 2 clearly reads 100% chance to be Unblockable if you have at least 1 armor up buff.....It's literally in his abilities section. He also gets true strike from activating any special and it says....

    While True Strike is active Heimdall's attacks cannot be avoided with dexterity.
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,120 ★★★★★
    Zuko_ILC wrote: »
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    Show a video showing that you can’t block the projectile. I know you guys keep throwing around unblockable but unblockable doesn’t mean everything is unblockable.

    His special 2 clearly reads 100% chance to be Unblockable if you have at least 1 armor up buff.....It's literally in his abilities section. He also gets true strike from activating any special and it says....

    While True Strike is active Heimdall's attacks cannot be avoided with dexterity.

    Yeah first of all. It Not the whole part of the sp like punisher and WS Can be blok one ther rest of it projtione Can be parry becasse spidey man sp1 Can blok the. Webs but Not the punch.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,639 ★★★★★
    Gamer wrote: »
    Ther stil a Way arund him just dash back from Star bait the sp2 parry the last part of it

    This.
  • DTMelodicMetalDTMelodicMetal Member Posts: 2,785 ★★★★★
    edited December 2018
    Zuko_ILC wrote: »
    So eat an l3 instead?....probably not good idea and also if he has armor up you can't parry the projectile it's unblockable.

    My advice was contingent on bringing champs others had already suggested like Sparky, Dormammu, or Iceman. Luke Cage also works like you said. I'll be more specific next time.

    Update - Checked in on our BG that runs Map 6. Heimdall doesn't start that fight with an armor buff. Even with true strike that means his sp2 can be blocked:

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  • V1PER1987V1PER1987 Member Posts: 3,474 ★★★★★
    Zuko_ILC wrote: »
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    Show a video showing that you can’t block the projectile. I know you guys keep throwing around unblockable but unblockable doesn’t mean everything is unblockable.

    His special 2 clearly reads 100% chance to be Unblockable if you have at least 1 armor up buff.....It's literally in his abilities section. He also gets true strike from activating any special and it says....

    While True Strike is active Heimdall's attacks cannot be avoided with dexterity.

    And like I said you keep throwing around unblockable but not everything is unblockable. For the most part all the melee hits of a special are unblockable and the projectiles are blockable. Spidey is an exception where it’s reversed for some strange reason. Also specials with only a projectile aspect are unblockable like Punisher L2 or Iron Man specials. That’s why I asked for a video. Because I’m about 99% sure you can just bait the sword swipe, evade it easily (not even talking about dexterity), and block the projectile.
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