Map 6 Heimdall on power start 2....real mature

Like seriously guys this is just straight BS. You can't dodge his l2 and you guys know that at least Dr. you can evade it this you are just going to take the special and if you survive then you can beat him. I'm fine with all the other nodes and champs but this is just a straight up money grab and isn't right.

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DTMelodicMetal

V1PER1987 wrote: »

And like I said you keep throwing around unblockable but not everything is unblockable. For the most part all the melee hits of a special are unblockable and the projectiles are blockable. Spidey is an exception where it’s reversed for some strange reason. Also specials with only a projectile aspect are unblockable like Punisher L2 or Iron Man specials. That’s why I asked for a video. Because I’m about 99% sure you can just bait the sword swipe, evade it easily (not even talking about dexterity), and block the projectile.

You can, I did this numerous times when Heimdall was a boss in August's event quest

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Kabam Miike

Hey All,

The team has been discussing your feedback on Heimdall in Map 6 and are looking at it for the near future. While we understand that this Heimdall is going to be tricky, there are ways to ensure that he does not get an unblockable/unevadable Sp2 off right away (don't let him get that Armor Up Buff!), there is a second Heimdall in Section 2 that is going to prove more tricky, and we are seriously considering making changes to.

This Heimdall starts with a 2 Bars of Power, but also has an Unblockable Special 2. We feel the counters to this one are fairly limited (Luke Cage, Iceman, Magneto, Spider-Man (Stark Enhanced)'s Heavy Attack).

We don't have any details yet, and won't be able to make a change until this series of Alliance Quests are over, but will give you all more information as soon as we can.

Demonzfyre

https://youtu.be/OJFkxqHCsLc

As others mentioned, he's like he was as UC boss a few months ago. Same nodes. Do this and you're fine.

Patchie93

Umm i actually evaded a heimdall sp2 with dexterity recently havent been able to do it consistently but can say it is doable.
Map 6 is meant to be harder so stop crying about something we had no problem dealing with earlier this year

SarcasticTaurus

Ahhhh ok.

Eb0ny-O-M4w

How about mephisto?
Soul imprisonment, no true strike, dex the sp2

Inx

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Hey All,

The team has been discussing your feedback on Heimdall in Map 6 and are looking at it for the near future. While we understand that this Heimdall is going to be tricky, there are ways to ensure that he does not get an unblockable/unevadable Sp2 off right away (don't let him get that Armor Up Buff!), there is a second Heimdall in Section 2 that is going to prove more tricky, and we are seriously considering making changes to.

This Heimdall starts with a 2 Bars of Power, but also has an Unblockable Special 2. We feel the counters to this one are fairly limited (Luke Cage, Iceman, Magneto, Spider-Man (Stark Enhanced)'s Heavy Attack).

We don't have any details yet, and won't be able to make a change until this series of Alliance Quests are over, but will give you all more information as soon as we can.

Get rid of this incoming thorn nonsense, don’t nobody got time for that

Karuseus

Bring your night crawler and dodge the projectile he can do that

Zuko_ILC

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Gamer wrote: »

Ther stil a Way arund him just dash back from Star bait the sp2 parry the last part of it

This.

No its unblockable in t2 so not an option. Really wish players understood the characters and nodes more.

Zuko_ILC

V1PER1987 wrote: »

Zuko_ILC wrote: »

V1PER1987 wrote: »

Show a video showing that you can’t block the projectile. I know you guys keep throwing around unblockable but unblockable doesn’t mean everything is unblockable.

His special 2 clearly reads 100% chance to be Unblockable if you have at least 1 armor up buff.....It's literally in his abilities section. He also gets true strike from activating any special and it says....

While True Strike is active Heimdall's attacks cannot be avoided with dexterity.

And like I said you keep throwing around unblockable but not everything is unblockable. For the most part all the melee hits of a special are unblockable and the projectiles are blockable. Spidey is an exception where it’s reversed for some strange reason. Also specials with only a projectile aspect are unblockable like Punisher L2 or Iron Man specials. That’s why I asked for a video. Because I’m about 99% sure you can just bait the sword swipe, evade it easily (not even talking about dexterity), and block the projectile.

The node is unblockable l2 in t2 so you can't block it.

GroundedWisdom

Zuko_ILC wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Gamer wrote: »

Ther stil a Way arund him just dash back from Star bait the sp2 parry the last part of it

This.

No its unblockable in t2 so not an option. Really wish players understood the characters and nodes more.

What we were saying is you can Block the second part, just like Spidey. Evade the first, Block the second.

DTMelodicMetal

Zuko_ILC wrote: »

No its unblockable in t2 so not an option. Really wish players understood the characters and nodes more.

In AW and quests unblockable special attacks can usually be blocked if you get out of the way of the 1st hit. Examples of this include Hood and Dormammu’s sp2 and Punisher’s sp1. Is this the case for Map 6 tier 2 Heimdall or is Map 6 Tier 2 Heimdall’s unblockable sp2 node unique?

DTMelodicMetal

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

What we were saying is you can Block the second part, just like Spidey. Evade the first, Block the second.

One of our guys used Sparky without issues. He landed the opening parry then used Sparky’s heavy attack.

Gamer

Zuko_ILC wrote: »

V1PER1987 wrote: »

Zuko_ILC wrote: »

V1PER1987 wrote: »

Show a video showing that you can’t block the projectile. I know you guys keep throwing around unblockable but unblockable doesn’t mean everything is unblockable.

His special 2 clearly reads 100% chance to be Unblockable if you have at least 1 armor up buff.....It's literally in his abilities section. He also gets true strike from activating any special and it says....

While True Strike is active Heimdall's attacks cannot be avoided with dexterity.

And like I said you keep throwing around unblockable but not everything is unblockable. For the most part all the melee hits of a special are unblockable and the projectiles are blockable. Spidey is an exception where it’s reversed for some strange reason. Also specials with only a projectile aspect are unblockable like Punisher L2 or Iron Man specials. That’s why I asked for a video. Because I’m about 99% sure you can just bait the sword swipe, evade it easily (not even talking about dexterity), and block the projectile.

The node is unblockable l2 in t2 so you can't block it.

U ryl didt try. That. In UC mode meant. We hav had it ther to so you need to go back hav to deal with Heimdal becasse u cant blok the last part im Can show that becasse my ally dont play map6 becasse of that srest ther one it but u Can blok the last part meant he projtile Not that hard to understand.

Championcritic

Heimdall sp2 is only unblockable when he has an active armor buff. So you gotta bait it out before you attack.

DTMelodicMetal

Championcritic wrote: »

Heimdall sp2 is only unblockable when he has an active armor buff. So you gotta bait it out before you attack.

@Championcritic Read Miike’s post about Map 6 Tier 2 Heimdall

Gamer

DTMelodicMetal wrote: »

Championcritic wrote: »

Heimdall sp2 is only unblockable when he has an active armor buff. So you gotta bait it out before you attack.

@Championcritic Read Miike’s post about Map 6 Tier 2 Heimdall

Im has read it. And. That cool but dont do much. Atm.

DTMelodicMetal

Gamer wrote: »

Im has read it. And. That cool but dont do much. Atm.

I don’t think it’s as bad as others have said either. The only times all hits of special attacks are unblockable are when nodes like rage or the one where AI gets to 25% or less health state “all attacks are unblockable”. Nodes that say an sp1 or sp2 “cannot be blocked” are not completely accurate. Fight Spidey on an sp1 node and you can block his webs then evade his punches, fight Dormammu on an sp2 node and you can get out of the way of his charge and block his fireballs, fight Bishop on an sp2 node or Korg on an sp1 node and you can get out of the way of their kicks and block their projectiles. Unless tier 2 Heimdall is unique the same should apply to avoiding his sword and blocking his projectile.

Lestat2499

This is a huge increase and if you don’t have the right champs you are screwed. Which also screwed the whole alliance.

Aspect of nightmare. So if you don’t enter with more than 50% health instant deTh in 12 seconds. If you forget and enter quick. Screwed. Now need to use at least 3 to 4 items and only have 15. And tons of units.

Ahhh. That’s the reason right there.

Lestat2499

Seriously guys. I understand wanting to increase map6. I’ve been plyIng it 3 times a week for awhile. But this is tooo much

CoatHang3r

Not a thing...

https://youtu.be/VDJB5hLVvEo

Beels

ppl are complaining about Heimdall and this node when the whole map 6 update is a shitshow. its like they gathered most of the tough bosses master lvl and placed it in 1 map. too many un avoidable damage. and yes i know there are counters to every fight but you can't bring all counters to all fights.
now you have to bring your war team to do map 6. and all this for what some crappy map 6 crystal. it is just not worth it.
i don't understand this steep increase in difficulty when map 7 is about to be introduced.
we used to run map 6 on day 1&2 for fun but now there is no fun at all

Championcritic

CoatHang3r wrote: »

Not a thing...
https://youtu.be/VDJB5hLVvEo

OP. need there be more evidence that you can indeed block the getsuga tensho?

Lestat2499

I was able to get passed hemidal with iceman. Wasted half his health. He’s r4. Then mephisto second miniboss ate up my blade r5 sig200 in seconds. Seriously w t f

Demonzfyre

Championcritic wrote: »

CoatHang3r wrote: »

Not a thing...
https://youtu.be/VDJB5hLVvEo

OP. need there be more evidence that you can indeed block the getsuga tensho?

@Championcritic logic and evidence don't apply to posts like this.

Demonzfyre

Lestat2499 wrote: »

I was able to get passed hemidal with iceman. Wasted half his health. He’s r4. Then mephisto second miniboss ate up my blade r5 sig200 in seconds. Seriously w t f

What team were you using?

MattMan

Demonzfyre wrote: »

Lestat2499 wrote: »

I was able to get passed hemidal with iceman. Wasted half his health. He’s r4. Then mephisto second miniboss ate up my blade r5 sig200 in seconds. Seriously w t f

What team were you using?

Obviously Iceman and Blade

MattMan

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Hey All,

The team has been discussing your feedback on Heimdall in Map 6 and are looking at it for the near future. While we understand that this Heimdall is going to be tricky, there are ways to ensure that he does not get an unblockable/unevadable Sp2 off right away (don't let him get that Armor Up Buff!), there is a second Heimdall in Section 2 that is going to prove more tricky, and we are seriously considering making changes to.

This Heimdall starts with a 2 Bars of Power, but also has an Unblockable Special 2. We feel the counters to this one are fairly limited (Luke Cage, Iceman, Magneto, Spider-Man (Stark Enhanced)'s Heavy Attack).

We don't have any details yet, and won't be able to make a change until this series of Alliance Quests are over, but will give you all more information as soon as we can.

Yet another piece of content with zero logical thought put behind it and zero trsting done. These issues shouldn’t be left to the community to discover for you on the live server

R4GE

I handled this fight this morning with a r3 5*. Bait out special right away. The projectile from his L2 can be blocked, so I don't understand your issue. Just like any other unblockable node, the entire special isn't unblockable.