atleast 2 weeks.... 1 week is not enough... so much content... so much resources wasted on season... !! or make the rewards better!!!
i mean how we have some gifting event that gives rare 5*, and 2 full t5b etc.... for just wasting money/gifting stuff.... and we play every week, stress, time wasted, resources, and to what? check those rewards... its not worth the pain
Oh as a top 10 player i'm DYING to play another season for 25k t2a and 1/3 of t5.
Oh wait, gifting event netted 2 full t5 and 6 t2a. now that's easy, it's like you won season 4-5 times in a row.
10 months to correct the game for players to like it, 2 months to destroy what you built and go back 100 steps.
Noice.
Start whenever you want, half top tier is retiring, thanks to your smart way of dealing with things kabam, gg.
Man im gonna love the penalties for getting players in without time to check on them and performances, finding out later they mod or worse. 10+
you said it all... how we have some gifting event that worth a lot of more then all this AW season rewards... all that stress, time and resources wasted??.... nonsense
Those justifying the short break with “just drop down a bit” are forgetting the impact it has on officers of an alliance, and if they can’t handle the stress of replacing multiple players in less than a week then the alliance crumbles.
This comment is so true.
Seen a lot of people just commenting about dropping down if you can't handle it. I know a lot of people who can handle it, but with AQ and AW constantly running, you don't have time to do content that isn't those two. And I know people who can't handle it. Both sets of players can get fed up and leave. This just puts a strain on the officers of a the alliance to find out new players, see if they fit in, make diversity charts, ask for rankups, change Lanes in war if needed and actually test the players out. Doing this in the span of one week is just so much pressure on them which is unnecessary. And if you can't do it, the alliance can crumble. Well knit alliances MAY not, but that isn't the case always since everyone is putting time and effort into the game.
This one week break starts in the middle of AQ. So you technically have lesser than a week to do the above. And with top Gold 1/Plat 3 difference being so close, it is really hard to get recruits in such a short time.
Think about the people who run the alliance before commenting.
I couldn't agree more! A 1 week break is too short. Especially when you have to recruit to replace people that leave after the season ends. Not to leave out the added pressure on officers to organize placement during the season. Give us more than a 1 week to regroup. What is the rush to start the next season?
I mean you can easily just switch to a lower alliance for a season or two if the stress is too much. I spent a season in Gold 2 alliance because I was away from holidays. You cannot hold the whole game back to cater to your personal needs.
Remember when Kabam decided to shorten seasons from two months to one, while keeping the off-season 2 weeks, and the same people were on here complaining that in the long term, they'd be screwed out of season rewards? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
I mean you can easily just switch to a lower alliance for a season or two if the stress is too much. I spent a season in Gold 2 alliance because I was away from holidays. You cannot hold the whole game back to cater to your personal needs.
Clearly not leading any ally i can see..
I was and currently kind of still doing it. the only thing that requires your time is D placement. and if you have fixed placement, this one goes away, and it is expected in top alliances - looks like you won't be satisfied only if you are in plat
We definately need 2 weeks break between season. Building up resources, find new players and balancing the BGs after testing in off season war takes sometime and all of this surely cannot be completed in 1 week!!!!
Please Kabam, rethink on this!
I think one week is shorter.
Need to know if there is trade in our player roster, test New player, and be ready in 4 aw ?
It don't let place to a mistake.
When we see kabam is hunting cheat, or piloting, we want to know how help with delay so short.
I think 2 weeks better to have a real break to make better seasons.
I mean you can easily just switch to a lower alliance for a season or two if the stress is too much. I spent a season in Gold 2 alliance because I was away from holidays. You cannot hold the whole game back to cater to your personal needs.
Clearly not leading any ally i can see..
I was and currently kind of still doing it. the only thing that requires your time is D placement. and if you have fixed placement, this one goes away, and it is expected in top alliances - looks like you won't be satisfied only if you are in plat
Yeah except of course there’s also:
-sorting lanes for people (not bad if bg stays the same)
-recruiting new members to replace all those that decide to take a break/those that just can’t cut it
-making sure those new members arent useless/assholes/cheaters.
-actually playing the game yourself.
It’s not an easy job being an officer and it’s certainly made harder by the 1 week offseason.
I mean you can easily just switch to a lower alliance for a season or two if the stress is too much. I spent a season in Gold 2 alliance because I was away from holidays. You cannot hold the whole game back to cater to your personal needs.
Clearly not leading any ally i can see..
I was and currently kind of still doing it. the only thing that requires your time is D placement. and if you have fixed placement, this one goes away, and it is expected in top alliances - looks like you won't be satisfied only if you are in plat
Yeah except of course there’s also:
-sorting lanes for people (not bad if bg stays the same)
-recruiting new members to replace all those that decide to take a break/those that just can’t cut it
-making sure those new members arent useless/assholes/cheaters.
-actually playing the game yourself.
It’s not an easy job being an officer and it’s certainly made harder by the 1 week offseason.
He did say 'kind of" so I figured I wouldn't bother explaining, but Thx for doing it nonetheless haha
People in low tiers or playing well below their skill level don't care. People in competitive allys care a lot. Kabam only cares about making as much money as possible.
I mean you can easily just switch to a lower alliance for a season or two if the stress is too much. I spent a season in Gold 2 alliance because I was away from holidays. You cannot hold the whole game back to cater to your personal needs.
Clearly not leading any ally i can see..
I was and currently kind of still doing it. the only thing that requires your time is D placement. and if you have fixed placement, this one goes away, and it is expected in top alliances - looks like you won't be satisfied only if you are in plat
Yeah except of course there’s also:
-sorting lanes for people (not bad if bg stays the same)
-recruiting new members to replace all those that decide to take a break/those that just can’t cut it
-making sure those new members arent useless/assholes/cheaters.
-actually playing the game yourself.
It’s not an easy job being an officer and it’s certainly made harder by the 1 week offseason.
He did say 'kind of" so I figured I wouldn't bother explaining, but Thx for doing it nonetheless haha
Spent 2 years as an officer so annoys me when people claim it’s easy 😂
I mean you can easily just switch to a lower alliance for a season or two if the stress is too much. I spent a season in Gold 2 alliance because I was away from holidays. You cannot hold the whole game back to cater to your personal needs.
Clearly not leading any ally i can see..
I was and currently kind of still doing it. the only thing that requires your time is D placement. and if you have fixed placement, this one goes away, and it is expected in top alliances - looks like you won't be satisfied only if you are in plat
Yeah except of course there’s also:
-sorting lanes for people (not bad if bg stays the same)
-recruiting new members to replace all those that decide to take a break/those that just can’t cut it
-making sure those new members arent useless/assholes/cheaters.
-actually playing the game yourself.
It’s not an easy job being an officer and it’s certainly made harder by the 1 week offseason.
He did say 'kind of" so I figured I wouldn't bother explaining, but Thx for doing it nonetheless haha
Spent 2 years as an officer so annoys me when people claim it’s easy 😂
spent more than a year managing a bg, now only do placement. you can devide all things you have to do among different people in your aly. delegate stuff. wich is basically what I was doing
It's nice to the bg officers aren't affected.. Be glad you don't have to deal with building a stable team after 3-5 players across bgs go for upping their game/quitting the game/taking breaks in smaller allies due to the aw rush..
Nice to see you guys got everything under control when you gotta sort defense.. Sounds like sorting defense is actully very much harder than anything else in running an ally.. I'll man up and get a promotion from leader to bg aw defense sorter.. That's where the real stuff goes down
Going away from the actual topic a little, I don't like the season structure at all. I think all these prizes should just be added to the normal war rewards.
But 1 week or 2 week or no week break doesn't make a difference.
It doesn't to you, which is fine, but plenty of us get stressed over it cause we now have the same amount of work to do in less time.. That's why we're here to hopefully be heard and make a change that'll benifit the majority
I think I have a lot of perspective for this discussion - not only am I currently an officer in a top 5 AW, top 20 AQ alliance that is scrambling to replace multiple retiring members, all but one of whom are explicitly citing burnout and short breaks, but I have been an officer in an alliance that fell apart due to multiple officers burning out at once.
Last may, I was in an alliance near the top of P1. We were struggling to figure out how competitive we wanted to be exactly, and so there was a fair bit of turnover. Our officers (I was leader for most of this) were working constantly to keep things stable, and eventually it just broke all of us. So four of us stepped down at once, and the entire alliance imploded. It took two full seasons for those of us that wanted to play together to find each other again.
Anyone who suggests taking a break to fight burnout is not only forgetting the intense workload turnover puts on officers - they're forgetting that a lot of players are only putting up with the incredible stress of seasons in the first place because they're playing with friends. Often these are close friends who we've played and fought with for months, who know what kind of beer we like and what's going on with our kids. This is why people don't just step down from top alliances - all too often they flat out retire. Years of work, years of accumulated talent, just gone because Kabam apparently can't figure out how to possibly adjust their schedule to give us another week or so of a breather. I love this game and so much of what's been done with it lately, but that's ridiculous.
And for anyone complaining about tanking, there's a simple solution - just lock war ratings for the top 3 or 6 or 10 tiers (let them pick a good number - I've been at the top too long to know what makes sense) during off seasons. That way brand new alliances can still use them to build rating and get ready for seasons, and competitive alliances lose their incentive to game the rating system in at least one way. And everyone gets a real rest.
They really need to double rewards and give 2 week breaks, we all spend a lot of money on this mode and it's starting to not look work the effort unless you are in masters bracket.
Well here's the thing, now that we many have voiced their desire for a longer break, the data needs to back that up. One way would be to encourage your alliance to not partake in the first of week of AW and give yourselves a break. If the data doesn't show that players need to take a break, then Kabam has little to go on when it comes to actually giving the player base a break.
I had to reset my thinking when it came to AW and just decide not to do it anymore and find an alliance which allows for that.
My suggestion to make war more enjoyable and less stressful would be simple. Make it similar to AQ. Every week include milestones for points earned that provide war crystals/other rewards and give rank rewards based on your point total. The points will be reset every week. It gives alliances the choice week to week to decide how much resources they should put into AW. Also, seasons put a psychological strain on alliances. Get rid of titles and advertised tiers. If god forbid an alliance drops down to gold 1, the alliance can't recruit anyone of value. People leave after the season is over causing chaos to replace quality members before the next season. This system would put an end to that.
@mostlyharmlessn - that's nice in theory. But here's the reality. It's simply not gonna happen. No one wants to go into the season 1 week behind points wise. You skip even 1 war, you might as well skip the whole of it because you just shot yourself in the foot points wise.
@ContestOfNoobs - I wish i had seen this post you spoke of. Cuz I had a sinking feeling this was coming too. I had hoped for the best, but always expect the worst. Like you said, here we are. I don't frequent the forum too often. Only recently have I started posting again in the hopes the many outweigh the few. The half baked thinking in this thread by the few is real. The many are pretty clear.
Simply stated, we were told when they cut the Season times in half it would be, 4 weeks on, 2 weeks off. There's no logic behind what was said. Until it gets explained in logical detail, many are left with questions. This comes with a sour taste of nonsense coupled with the smell of bull. I cannot fathom how cutting our off time in half has ANYTHING to do with optimizing ANYTHING.
Until we get more than, the 'We don't have anymore information for now, but stay tuned' cover show.... many will be left with questions. Saying you 'don't have' more information is tantamount to an admission of not knowing. Not knowing why you're doing something is rather foolish if you ask me. Seems to me, some aren't given the whole truth. We certainly aren't. But maybe it's not limited to us. Which I would be pretty mad if I were the mods and I didn't know why I was telling everyone what I was. Perhaps the team should have an open discussion on this sooner than later. I think that much is only fair at this point.
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i mean how we have some gifting event that gives rare 5*, and 2 full t5b etc.... for just wasting money/gifting stuff.... and we play every week, stress, time wasted, resources, and to what? check those rewards... its not worth the pain
you said it all... how we have some gifting event that worth a lot of more then all this AW season rewards... all that stress, time and resources wasted??.... nonsense
This comment is so true.
Seen a lot of people just commenting about dropping down if you can't handle it. I know a lot of people who can handle it, but with AQ and AW constantly running, you don't have time to do content that isn't those two. And I know people who can't handle it. Both sets of players can get fed up and leave. This just puts a strain on the officers of a the alliance to find out new players, see if they fit in, make diversity charts, ask for rankups, change Lanes in war if needed and actually test the players out. Doing this in the span of one week is just so much pressure on them which is unnecessary. And if you can't do it, the alliance can crumble. Well knit alliances MAY not, but that isn't the case always since everyone is putting time and effort into the game.
This one week break starts in the middle of AQ. So you technically have lesser than a week to do the above. And with top Gold 1/Plat 3 difference being so close, it is really hard to get recruits in such a short time.
Think about the people who run the alliance before commenting.
Clearly not leading any ally i can see..
I was and currently kind of still doing it. the only thing that requires your time is D placement. and if you have fixed placement, this one goes away, and it is expected in top alliances - looks like you won't be satisfied only if you are in plat
Please Kabam, rethink on this!
Need to know if there is trade in our player roster, test New player, and be ready in 4 aw ?
It don't let place to a mistake.
When we see kabam is hunting cheat, or piloting, we want to know how help with delay so short.
I think 2 weeks better to have a real break to make better seasons.
It’s almost as if kabam only listens when you stop spending or playing.
Outside of maybe .008% of players, everyone would do better if they just skipped AW seasons and bought the t5b deals that come 2-3x a month.
Zero stress from seasons with all the t5b rewards from seasons at a lower cost than seasons.
-sorting lanes for people (not bad if bg stays the same)
-recruiting new members to replace all those that decide to take a break/those that just can’t cut it
-making sure those new members arent useless/assholes/cheaters.
-actually playing the game yourself.
It’s not an easy job being an officer and it’s certainly made harder by the 1 week offseason.
He did say 'kind of" so I figured I wouldn't bother explaining, but Thx for doing it nonetheless haha
Spent 2 years as an officer so annoys me when people claim it’s easy 😂
spent more than a year managing a bg, now only do placement. you can devide all things you have to do among different people in your aly. delegate stuff. wich is basically what I was doing
Nice to see you guys got everything under control when you gotta sort defense.. Sounds like sorting defense is actully very much harder than anything else in running an ally.. I'll man up and get a promotion from leader to bg aw defense sorter.. That's where the real stuff goes down
It doesn't to you, which is fine, but plenty of us get stressed over it cause we now have the same amount of work to do in less time.. That's why we're here to hopefully be heard and make a change that'll benifit the majority
Last may, I was in an alliance near the top of P1. We were struggling to figure out how competitive we wanted to be exactly, and so there was a fair bit of turnover. Our officers (I was leader for most of this) were working constantly to keep things stable, and eventually it just broke all of us. So four of us stepped down at once, and the entire alliance imploded. It took two full seasons for those of us that wanted to play together to find each other again.
Anyone who suggests taking a break to fight burnout is not only forgetting the intense workload turnover puts on officers - they're forgetting that a lot of players are only putting up with the incredible stress of seasons in the first place because they're playing with friends. Often these are close friends who we've played and fought with for months, who know what kind of beer we like and what's going on with our kids. This is why people don't just step down from top alliances - all too often they flat out retire. Years of work, years of accumulated talent, just gone because Kabam apparently can't figure out how to possibly adjust their schedule to give us another week or so of a breather. I love this game and so much of what's been done with it lately, but that's ridiculous.
And for anyone complaining about tanking, there's a simple solution - just lock war ratings for the top 3 or 6 or 10 tiers (let them pick a good number - I've been at the top too long to know what makes sense) during off seasons. That way brand new alliances can still use them to build rating and get ready for seasons, and competitive alliances lose their incentive to game the rating system in at least one way. And everyone gets a real rest.
Please, Kabam, consider it.
I had to reset my thinking when it came to AW and just decide not to do it anymore and find an alliance which allows for that.
@ContestOfNoobs - I wish i had seen this post you spoke of. Cuz I had a sinking feeling this was coming too. I had hoped for the best, but always expect the worst. Like you said, here we are. I don't frequent the forum too often. Only recently have I started posting again in the hopes the many outweigh the few. The half baked thinking in this thread by the few is real. The many are pretty clear.
Simply stated, we were told when they cut the Season times in half it would be, 4 weeks on, 2 weeks off. There's no logic behind what was said. Until it gets explained in logical detail, many are left with questions. This comes with a sour taste of nonsense coupled with the smell of bull. I cannot fathom how cutting our off time in half has ANYTHING to do with optimizing ANYTHING.
Until we get more than, the 'We don't have anymore information for now, but stay tuned' cover show.... many will be left with questions. Saying you 'don't have' more information is tantamount to an admission of not knowing. Not knowing why you're doing something is rather foolish if you ask me. Seems to me, some aren't given the whole truth. We certainly aren't. But maybe it's not limited to us. Which I would be pretty mad if I were the mods and I didn't know why I was telling everyone what I was. Perhaps the team should have an open discussion on this sooner than later. I think that much is only fair at this point.